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Volvo C70

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  • erisamanerisaman Posts: 99
    Thanks for that, changing the subject a little - I know that Volvo as a manufacturer frown upon modifications which, in the wrong hands, could jeopardise safety, however, have you heard of anyone producing a 'one touch' roof opening module for the C70. I recall a rush of excitement when L-C-T produced such a module for the Eos, but they refused to consider doing one for the C70.

    Now, 18 months later, researching for the Astra TwinTop, I have found a very good company who do actually produce a one-touch system for the C70. It appears to be superb in quality, and is certainly not cheap, but, in addition to being just 'one touch' to operate the roof, it also allows the roof to be opened whilst on the move - the speed to be governed to a pre-set speed. If anyone is interested then I will post details and apparently, if there are enough potential buyers, the company will consider a 'group buy' at discount.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    Just remember that any such modification will automatically void the warranty.
    Not sure I would do that with something as sensitive and potentially costly as a convertible top.
  • erisamanerisaman Posts: 99
    Hmm, a timely reminder and I take your point ...... but to have to park up and keep one foot on the brake and a finger on the button ..... sounds virtually nothing but is a 'pain' in practice.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    but to have to park up and keep one foot on the brake and a finger on the button ..... sounds virtually nothing but is a 'pain' in practice.

    Oh the humanity! :P

    20 yrs ago, Mercedes Benz was selling a $60,000 convertible that you had to put the cloth top down manually.
    You ever try to do that w/ a brand new 560SL?
    What a pain in the a$$ that was!
    It literally took 2 people and a lot of straining to do it.
    Now, we have fully automatic metal roofs.
    So, you gotta stand still, big deal.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,329
    LOL!
    yeah, I gotta agree with Vmax here.

    In my wife's bimmer, you gotta lower all the windows, release the 2 latches at the windshield, GET OUT OF THE CAR, raise the front of the top to release the tension, then raise the back of the top off of the rear deck, pull a handle inside of the passenger compartment to release the tonneau cover, then hold the cover open and fold the top down into it. And, while I don't know if this is a standard feature or not, you have to run around to the other side to tuck the fabric in on the passenger side, run back to the driver's side and tuck the fabric in there, then snap the tonneau cover shut.

    Holding that brake pedal must be SO annoying. ;P

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • erisamanerisaman Posts: 99
    And remember the televisions with their tiny screens and grey images, how folk used to huddle around them to listen to the news? Oh how warm and friendly it must have been in those days, we do so miss them.

    Huh, fat chance .............. c'mon guys, don't live in the past and rejoice in failure or inadequacies, I recall the excitement a large number of C70 owners expressed on here when they thought the L-C-T company would produce a one-touch module for the C70 as they had done for the Eos. It's called progress guys .....
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,329
    We're not saying it can't be better. But, for me, I guess I have a much higher tolerance for what I'd call "annoying" or a "pain."

    Also, ya gotta remember what it takes to make everyone happy. I'm sure folks at volvo spent days and nights thinking about how to make this work. And I'm sure someone said "let's make it one-touch." And then 5 people said "no. what happens if a freak rain happens while the top is lowering? we should be able to stop mid-way if we want." And then 3 lawyers chimed in and said "we should make sure people are stopped when they do this. We want a safety switch on the brake pedal." And on and on it went.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • erisamanerisaman Posts: 99
    No, Volvo, just as every other manufacturer, has to cater for the idiot, the person who lacks commonsense and who will automatically think that - "Hey, if it's one-touch then let's touch it and to hell with any kids who may stick their fingers in the mechanism".

    However, some of us do have commonsense and when we choose to add an extra feature, we automatically adopt the role of caretaker to ensure the roof is operated in safe conditions - it behoves us to do so.

    Check out the MB forums, the BM forums, they oft have these retrofit/after market modules and rave about them.

    In the UK, there are occasions when we are in slow moving traffic, and to be able to shut the roof as the rain gathers momentum can be a boon. Not everytime, not at 50 mph - just a crawling pace, as incorporated in the GM TwinTop as standard, just to have that little extra convenience.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,743
    I can just see someone backing out of their driveway as they have the top going up on auto... and then the body flexes as the rear wheels drop over the curb onto the pavement.... and.. stuck!!

    It's no sweat with our soft-top convertible, but with that hard-top? Is it really that hard to have your foot on the brake and your finger on a button at the same time? I guess a manual transmission would really be hell!! ;)

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  • erisamanerisaman Posts: 99
    How sad - if you don't know, why comment?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,743
    I'm hoping for edification.... :surprise:

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  • Hi! I have been perusing the c70 bulletins as I try to decide whether to keep mine or let it loose... I purchased my pearl white black top & interior used in 06.. 27,000 mi. for $27,000.00. I love the car - but am a lil concerned that it may turn into a money pit now that I have just passed the warranty expiration. I believe I still owe 17,000 and have 40,000 miles on it! If I keep her- i am gonna fork out the cash for the ext. warranty (3,000.). I guess i need input as to the reliability for the next 25,000 miles?!
    Thanks! :blush:
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    If you are out of warranty, you can't get the Volvo VIP extended warranty.

    If you go aftermarket, make sure it cover the electrical system,turbo,and top.

    Mechanically, the C70 should be fine. The drivetrain is a very good one.
    Window regulators tend to be an issue and the the top can need occasional re-aligning.
  • Thank you so much!

    Westside Volvo in Cleveland is willing to extend my warranty - probably through them. I think I may go with AAA though- I am not too hot on dealership care and prefer to go to a local swedish specialist.

    Any more advice out there?
  • I'm wondering whether anyone has experienced the following problems:

    1. When the convertible top is raised, the front passenger window goes up about 2/3s and then stops and goes down to the halfway position. I'd had this problem since my purchase in April 2006. The dealer has tried to solve this issue on numerous occasions; changing regulator, software reboots, etc. and nothing seems to work.

    2. I recall reading in the past that someone was able to get their dealer to adjust their Xenon headlights slightly upward to improve nightime visibility. My dealer informed me that these headlights are not adjustable in the U.S. Can someone confirm whether this is true - Volvomax, your input would be valuable here as Volvo North America informed me that I have to go to my dealer, who is the definitive authority!

    Thanks,
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    All headlights are mechanically adjustable.

    The new Xenon's shouldn't need to be adjusted but, people's tastes vary.
  • I am the person who posted about the Xenon headlights being aimed too low. I have read others on this board with the same problem. It took two trips to the dealer but they were able to adjust them upward. Volvomax is usually right-on but misses the mark here. It has nothing to do with someone's taste or preference. The purpose of a headlight is to illuminate the area in front of you. If the lamps are too low, nighttime driving is precarious and hazardous. I noticed the problem, along with my son and wife. It's not me (or my taste), but rather bad assembly at the factory. Considering how many posts I have read about this, and in light of Volvo's reputation for safety, I am surprised that they have not initiated an informal recall on this issue. Plus, I didn't appreciate spending hundreds of $ extra for Xenon lamps only to realize that they were the worst performing lights I have ever had UNTIL PROPERLY AIMED.
  • Thanks bobparis and volvomax for your input. My car is with the dealer and I should be picking it up tomorrow. Volvomax, is my window problem unique to my vehicle?
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    I've spent plenty of time in the new C70,and I don't have an issue w/ the factory setting on the Xenons.
    It IS possible that your lights were mis aimed at the factory.
    I have yet to have a complain about the factory setting.
    Another issue, when you raise the lights above the factory setting, you increase the glare for on coming drivers.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    I haven't heard of a window issue like yours.
    Could be an issue w/ the pressure sensor.
    It's designed to roll the window down if it encounters an obstruction,like your fingers.
  • Recently had timing belt replaced as well as new front rotors and pads. Noticed soon after a low rumble or grinding noise coming from front end as the car slows to a complete stop. Returned to dealer who did the work. They checked it out and found nothing wrong. Said maybe rotors needs to be seated. In time will quiet down. I want to know if this is a brake problem or any kind of transmission problem before it's too late. 1999 Volvo C70 coupe LPT 105K miles, auto trans.
    Thanks
  • I have the same issue with my bi-xenon headlights. They are just aimed a bit too low. Possibly the perception is exaggerated by the sharp cut-off of the beam. Since this is my first car with xenons, I thought at first that maybe it was just a matter of getting used to the sharp beam cut-off. But the distance down the road that is lit up is just too short. I constantly feel like I am going to "outrun" the headlights, in the sense that there isn't enough reaction time for the short length of road that is lit up.

    I made one attempt to have my dealer look at it, and they just said that they are fine. But they're not. Rather than argue with my dealer about it, I think I'm going to try the manual adjustment myself, per instructions seen on one of the other Volvo forums I look at. I'm going to do this incrementally, since I don't want to blind other drivers, etc.
  • I would not try to do this myself. I was told by the Service Manager at two different Volvo dealers that it is a "software" problem. Don't ask me how software can cure what I would assume to be a physical adjustment or physics problem. All I know is that it took two attempts and the lights were ultimately "adjusted" satisfactorily. Your description of "outrun" the headlights is extremely apt and is scary. Call up and speak to the Service Manager and if that does no good, call Volvo directly. Have Volvo correct it.
  • When I went back to the dealer, the servgiceperson had marked the file that the lights were fine. When I spoke with the customer rep., he manually adjusted the lights himself using a socket wrench...he also agreed that they were aimed too low. I'm checking the revised angle to see whether they're sufficiently aimed high enough and not a distraction to oncoming cars. Anyone experiencing this problem needs to keep speaking to Volvo service until they make this adjustment.
  • Has anyone with the 18 inch wheels tried a tire other than the OE Pirelli PZero Rosso? Last fall I replaced two because my wife blew one out on our '07 C70 and the other was shot (about 15K on the car) and once again the two fronts need to be replaced (about 31K) and really all four should be. Best price I've found for the Pirelli's is $949 for four with shipping plus mounting and balancing. I'm just wondering if there is a cheaper alternative that works as well and maybe lasts a little longer....
  • My set of factory Pirelli PZero's (speed rated at approx 160 mph) lasted 17,500 miles and I hated the "ride." An independent tire store in my area that has been around for decades set me up with Hankook Ventus HR II 235/40R18 93H tires, speed rated at about 130 mph. The ride is better - and the steering wheel doesn't jerk as much in either direction due to potholes and other road conditions. The tires should last about 30,000 miles. Again, they are speed rated less than the factory tires but at an MPH that is still considerably faster than I will ever go - this was disclosed to me by the tire dealer prior to purchase. Apparently a Volvo dealer would not be able to fit a tire speed rated less than the factory tire. Just had them rotated at 10,000 miles yesterday and they are wearing fine. I showed them the page from the owner's manual where it states that Volvo does not recommend rotating the tires. They were flabergasted. The Volvo dealer, off the record, also advised rotating the tires. Good luck.
  • Thanks for the response. How is the road noise and rain driving with the Hankook's?
  • The tires are quieter. As far as rain driving is concerned, I don't have much experience since I am in southern California. With limited experience under such conditions, nothing was out of the ordinary on wet roads.
  • Last week I put four Hankook Ventus HR II tires on my car and have to say they are great so far. They are so much quieter, so much more comfortable and so much less expensive than the OEM Pirellis with no loss of performance as far as I can tell. My only gripe per say is they are not made in the USA.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    Hold on a sec. You are driving a SWEDISH car and you are griping that the tires aren't made in the USA?!
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