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Thanks for your info. This helps in my decision making process as well. Hope the C6 is running well!
Regards,
OW
Sport Package AWD: Red “S” badge, unique front fascia and side sills; sport-style seats w/thigh extension and power thigh and torso support; aluminum pedals and foot rest; 18-inch lightweight cast aluminum-alloy wheels; P225/50R18 all-season tires; magnesium paddle shifters
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I think they do compete, as both are RWD Sport Sedans with comparable ( near identical ) acceleration, excellent handling, etc.
Clearly, the G8 GT is larger – and that may matter ( a lot ) to some. It is also rather heavier than the G37.
The G8 GT is also significantly cheaper – with both Premium & Sport packages and a sunroof, the MSRP is now $34,990 – with a price increase on newer 2009s. ( Was $34,110 – and most cars on dealer lots have that MSRP. )
I have not yet seen the G37 US prices, but a 2008 with Premium & Sport lists for over $37K.
If you require a built-in navigation unit, the G8 does not offer one – and the G37 does.
The G37 appears to have addressed the few issues I have had with the G35.
The A7 allows better acceleration & better MPG and lower RPM at cruise. The G37 now has an EPA highway rating 2 MPG higher than the G8 GT. The G35 was the same as the G8 GT.
The interior fit finish & materials – well, look & judge for yourself. . .
I have driven 2 G8 GTs.
I plan to test drive a G37 with Premium & Sport packages as soon as one is available at my local dealer.
- Ray
Glad to have a choice . . .
5-year Ownership Cost
$44,442 G37S
$45,230 G8GT
G has MSRP 7,000 more....which puts these #'s better into perspective.
I can't help but thinking, much like the accord Vs G6 comparison (On paper), the build quality and resid value gives the infiniti a tremendous advantage. Friend of mine bought a G6...god was it crap....cheap though and somewhat fast.
Or MSRP vs MSRP.
Everything else depends on too many other factors – negotiating ability, local supply & demand, how long one keeps the car, etc.
I apologize for any confusion.
- Ray
Not verbose enough, this time . . .
Regards,
OW
What triggered my question in the first place, was one of my kids wanted to take the new car around the block. He took one corner at 22 mph. The car easily took it, but it got me to wondering how fast it could take the average street corner...
"Reliability History - No Data, New Model" - CR
[ edit:
Anecdotal evidence suggest that the A6 trans calibration
is the only significant issue, so far.
Addressed with a software update. ]
Since this is in the G35\37 forum:
"RELIABILITY
We expect reliability to be much better than average, according to our latest subscriber survey.
Tested model: 2007 Journey sedan, 3.5-liter V6, 5-speed automatic"
- Consumer Reports...
The Aztek gets my vote for ugliest vehicle EVER made..worse than VW thing even !
Here's a link to a pic:
http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo304/chaivelevz/IMG_0168.jpg
This seems fishy. I know from this board that some '09's have already been purchased. The sales manager also said that they don't have any brochures yet and that pricing isn't even announced yet. This is from the sales manager!!! Any idiot can go to infiniti.com and see that the pricing for the '09's has indeed been announced, and I told him that, but in nicer words.
I'm wondering if I'm being told the truth about the '09's, or if perhaps this dealer (which is the only Infiniti dealer in about 150 miles) happens to have too many '08's and delayed their shipments so they could sell their older models.
He further went on to say that they are getting a single '09 sedan and a single '09 coupe this month. These are "demo's," but he said they would be for sale. WTF???? Who gets a single demo of a model, says it's for everyone to see and test, but says it's for sale? Wouldn't that car be snatched up the first day it gets to the dealer if someone realizes it's actually for sale?
I guess the reason I'm posting this is to see if there has actually been an announcement by Infiniti that the '09's are being delayed until January. I hadn't heard anything about this until today. If this is true, then I'll just have to be patient. Bit if I'm being told something incorrect, I will not be purchasing a vehicle from this dealer, even if it means I have to drive out of state to get to a dealer who will be honest.
My local dealer’s rep. seems to be telling me all he knows \ all Infiniti & his mgmt. Is telling him, but that is not proving to be very helpful.
I did want to drive a G37 Sedan before making a decision.
But I do not want to wait another month.
Or 2.
http://nissannews.com/newsroom.do?id=34&mid=140
Still says available Nov 5.
- Ray
Bewildered.
Stick shift is the number 1 item I MUST have in any new car I plan to purchase.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
To your point as far as the transmission, yes, it does do more shifting than most cars. It's definitely because of the 7-speed. But that's a good thing, because it gets you better performance in both acceleration and mileage. If you're taking it easy from a stop, you'll shift into third gear before you hit 20. You'll get used to it, it's just different from other cars.
The mileage is the one thing I wish was better, as I've been averaging about 19-20 MPG in the first 1500 miles (calculated manually, which is usually about 0.5 MPG worse than what the on-board computer shows). This is in about 60/40 city/highway miles. It's not too far off what you'd expect from the listed 18/25, and I do expect it to get a little better after the first 10K miles or so, like most cars I've had have done.
Again, overall, TREMENDOUS car that I have absolutely no regrets about buying. I expect I'll keep it for many years.
The G37 offers tremendous value for the money. I'm seriously going to consider one for my wife when the lease is up on her '07 X3 in July of '10. The one thing I am concerned about is trunk space compared to our X3. Right now there are the wife, myself, and our 2+ year old. We've got a baby on the way in April.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
To put it into real-world terms, we have the aforementioned family of four, consisting of my wife and I, and two young daughters, ages 4 and 2. The trunk on my previous car, a 2006 Acura TL, was very similar in size. I was always able to pack everything we needed into that car, except for the annual trip to the grandparents house for Christmas, when we'd stay for 4-5 days and bring extra bags full of Christmas gifts. I expect the same of the G37, we just haven't had a trip with it yet (took delivery on Dec. 29). I can easily get a double (front-to-back) stroller in and out in either car.
I wouldn't let the trunk space hold you back. The more I think about it, it's probably not that much different from an X3 after all.
I've always been an admirer of the G Sedan. My best friend has 2 Infinitis (an FX35 & QX56) that he absolutely loves. There is also a dealer here in WHite Plains that has an amazing service department.
I plan to check the G37 sedan out extensively at the NY Auto SHow in April.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
I did not have nav in the TL, so I can't compare that for you, sorry.
I think the stereo is much better. I also really like the hard drive to burn your CD's. You don't ever need to keep your music in your car now.
After mentioning all that, I of course have to talk about the performance. The first thing a person who drives a TL will notice when they drive the G37 is the acceleration. It's not even close. Plus, I don't have to worry about spinning my front wheels like I always did with even moderate throttle input in the TL. Cornering is much easier - I always felt like the TL was strained at any sort of hard cornering.
The fuel mileage is a big difference too - in favor of the TL. I would routinely average 23-24 MPG in my mixed driving in the TL, with road trips returning 30-32 MPG. The G is getting 18-20 MPG, and in the longest stretch of highway driving I've done so far (about 40 miles) averaged 25 MPG. So if that's important to you, I'm pretty confident in stating a 20% reduction in fuel economy in my vehicles.
I'd give the nod on comfort to the TL, as the seats were probably the nicest car seats I've ever sat in for any extended period. The thigh supports in the G are a little pinchy, I'd prefer to have them set about an inch wider. The thigh and side supports are adjustable with the sport package, but they set the thighs too narrow and the sides too wide, IMO. I'm not an "extra-wide" person either. So definitely check out how that feels if/when you do a test drive.
The windblown puddle of mercury known as the Infiniti Essence concept car shown at this year's Geneva show tells volumes about where Nissan's luxury division is headed both stylistically and technically. The twin-turbo 3.7-liter direct injection V-6 in the Essence will debut, sans turbos, in the redesigned M sedan due in early 2010, making about 340–350 hp. The complex direct-injection technology, in which fuel is injected directly into the cylinder rather than in the intake ports as is more common, most likely will also make its way into the G37 coupe and sedan as mid-cycle upgrades before the cars are completely redesigned in about three years. Besides making more power, gasoline direct-injection technology is also needed to meet tightening emissions and fuel-economy regulations around the world.
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G37X, faster, more sporty, better handling, tighter
M35x, more comfortable, roomy, more features, more space
The new voice activation feature is better than the old one. Though it takes a few more steps to get to do what you want, there are much fewer mistakes and much more accurate in the voice commands.
The screen on the M35X was larger than the G37x so I miss the increased space, but the G37x has touch controls in addition to the voice and buttons of the M35X's. The G37X has two screens. A mini screen in the dashboard (a red LED) whereas the M had just one. I am not a fan yet of the mini dashboard screen in the G. For example, the M screen had the outside temp on the screen in the status view where the G does not. You need to have it on the mini screen, but then you don't have the odometer. I guess I'll get used to it.
The controls knobs, buttons etc seemed a little more substantial on the M than the G. On my 75 mile commute (75% highway, 25% city) I averaged about 23 MPG with the M (in the winter, which is about 1 mpg less than the summer) and on first run it looks like the G is doing about 26.5.
I am a little disappointed in the Hard drive music box. It only copies CD's, not MP3 files, which significantly limits what I can load on the drive and the amount of music you can store. But the sound is terrific. I also don't get the Compact Flash slot. Why not a USB slot? I haven't tried the Ipod link yet but it looks like it will be what I use the most. I haven't been able to get my Ipod back from my kids.
Overall I am very pleased. I liked the M so much I decided to buy this one. I think I got a great deal at $36420 + TTL with Journey, Premium, 4WD, Mud Guards, Nav and Wood. I was going to get a fully loaded Honda Accord but I am glad I splurged.
Hope this helps. If you have any other questions, let me know.
I had an EX 35 loaner with Tech, Nav, and Premium pkgs. & loved all the bells and whistles. Whoever gets loaner # 1 will get the gift of music courtesy of Music Box!
My car wasn't really ready when I came to pick it up, so Ed got me another loaner-a G37 (#8) with about 500 miles on it. No packages (as is their practice with loaner Gs) but man, what a rocket. 7-speed was pretty much unobtrusive except for a downshift (either 3-2 or 2-1) when coasting to a stop. I didn't flog the car as it wasn't broken in, but it's really quick with not too hard a ride. I got 27 mpg avg coming down the Saw Mill Pkwy at 50-55 mph.
HID high beams now, as opposed to my '04's.
Interestingly, the upper headlight cutoff line is the sharpest I've ever seen.
Now, if only it had really effective fog lamps...
Thanks.
2005 G35 Sedan2007 G35 Sedan
2008 G37 Sedan
2010 G37 Coupe
2012 G37 Sedan
2014 Q50 RWD
2017 Q60 3.0t RWD
2018 QX60 RWD
You are going for a premium performance vehicle - give it the right fuel.
I don't like the graphite interior either - but I love the grey - its fairly light grey so its nice.
In a pinch, if nothing better is available, you should be able get where you're going on a tank of regular.
- G37x with no add'l options ($41,300 MSRP CAD$), or
- G37 with the touring pkg ($42,340 MSRP CAD$)
I'm located in South Ontario so we get a fair bit of snowfall and have enjoyed the AWD on the G35x (particlaurly the "snow" switch which tames the G's amazing throttle response), however I don't know how well the G37 would perform with just the standard traction control. I can tell you I took a Mercedes C300 out for a drive that wasn't AWD, and it perfromed very well if not as good as the G35x in some fairly slick and deep snow. However, the C300 doesn't even come close to the power in the G so I can't use that as a guage. Do most people put snows on the non-AWD G's if you're in a snow-belt area? Do you wish you went with the AWD?
The other dilemna I have is I like some of the additional options I would get if I went with the G37 with the touring pkg. Particularly the audio system upgrade since good sound quality audio is important to me. I really enjoy the audio quality in my current G, but I would like to know if I'm taking a step back in terms of the sound quality if I go with the standard system. However, I'm not particalurly concerned of the lack of a 6 disc changer or even the IPOD interface. I'm concerned about the 6 speaker system vs. the 10 speaker system, is there even a sub-woofer in the 6 speaker system. If anyone has any insight I'd love to hear it.
Thanks,
Scott
G Pluses:
1. Satillete radio. I never had one. It's a blast.
2. Seats. Forget the talk about Lexus luxury. The G seats are the most comfortable I've ever sat in.
3. Locking system. The G opens all doors by way of the driver and passenger doors. The IS opens all doors from the drivers side only.
G Minuses:
1. No daytime running lights. What is Infiniti thinking?
2. Glove compartment. The Lexus is small but the Infiniti's is a joke.
3. Mirrors. I miss the Lexus oversized driver and passenger mirrors.
All in all these pluses and minuses are a wash. What really counts is stepping on the G's accellerator and enjoying the ride. The Lexus is a good car ... a very good car but the G37 is in another class altogether.