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Audi A6 Continuously Variable Transmission (CVT)

texasridertexasrider Posts: 2
I currently own a 2003 Audi A6 "CVT", which I love but I've been having some intermittent issues with what I can only describe as transmission issues.

It happens here and there but when accelerating, mostly from a stop my car will periodically, jerk as if it's slipping a gear or something ???

The dealer has already told me, while they cannot figure out the problem, that on average they replace more CVT transmissions than others.

Does anyone have ANY insight into this as an experience and/or a known issue ?

My car is well maintained (oil changes, maint., etc) by the book

Please advise.

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  • william29william29 Posts: 1
    I also own an A6 with exactly the same problems...60,000 miles 3.0 FWD...is that your model?
    I just got back from the dealer and they tried to update the trans computer but it did not work for me...try that first
    Let me know what you discover if we have the same model
    Thanks
  • macljmaclj Posts: 1
    Sorry about your luck - I am now on my fourth transmission, and it is starting again. Dealer has been helpful, Audi has not. I am so fed up with Audi. A6 3.0
  • rjlaerorjlaero Posts: 659
    Audi's Quattro and tip is very reliable.

    CVT is another ballgame. Lots of quirks with this tranny. CVT does not have a torque convertor. It feels a bit weird off the line and people complain about the lag and jerky nature of the starts. Very smooth on the highway, but stop and go is irritating to some.

    I would never own a CVT out of warranty or Audi Certified.
  • sixdayssixdays Posts: 10
    hi i have audi a6 2.5 tdi cvt 2001/02,and have clutch lag before it eng...but on the move no probs,do you think oil and filter is the prob,do you no how you check the oil levels on this for the cvt box,can you just empty it change the filter and fill it up with oil,and do you no the kind of oil i will need for this many thanks porscha :confuse:
  • donmargodonmargo Posts: 1
    Hello, we also have a6 2003. and also had trouble but Audi have been great they replaced it once but I am now having trouble on hills got to use the hand brake like an old vw. any tips thanks donmargo
  • paninpanin Posts: 2
    HI , I have 03 Audi a6 3.0 cvt fwd , have engine light is on , went to euro mechanic , they sad its catalic converter , reset the computer , light went off for like 2 weeks , went one more time to mechanic shop , same thing. I guessing it might be true , BUT , now some times when i START THE CAR And SWITCHING GEAR TO REVERSE , on the middle of the dash board it says SERVICE! and Car BEEPS , same thing when i put it on DRIVE it BEEPS ONE TIME . But Engine and tranny works pirfectly .
    And when it says SERVICE on the top is shows "OK"...very strange to me ....Please HELP....Mechanic never mantioned anything about tranny failure. :(
  • paninpanin Posts: 2
    wow. my car runs good , but i still have the same shaking when i put it on revirse ,
    let me ask you a question , How it your tranny broke down , i mean whats happend with it?
    thnax in advance
  • NEVER, EVER, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE BUY AN AUDI ! ! !
    Last year I leased a 2008 A6 with the CVT. I am on the third transmission in 6000 miles. the change of trannys happened after repeated confrontations with the dealer in Miami which denies any problems and treats the customer like an imbecil. The is still having the same problems. When complaining to Audi they send me to their lawyers...REAL NICE ! ! !
    This has been the biggest nightmare
  • I have 2003 Audi A6 3.0 CVT transmission. It is a joke. It stopped on the highway in 20* F weather 60,000 miles. Transmission broken. Had to call Audi many many times. Finally ended up paying $4100 instead of original $6500. Now the manual part wont work. Am so fed up. Would have never bought an Audi if I knew this, wil never buy one again. Have complained to BBB and FTC. Maybe we should have a class action lawsuit against Audi.
  • i agree, maybe it is time for a class action suit against audi.

    i logged on today to see if anyone was reporting problems with the a6 since the dealerships keep acting surprised when we keep bringing it in for service and contacting audi usa. imagine my surprise when i found this forum.

    i have a 2008 a6 with cvt trans. i have had problems with it since the month after purchase. it has been in for service at 2 different dealerships a total of 10 times since purchased in Oct 2008. it is still not fixed and they do not know what the problem is.

    maybe this is a case like toyota.
  • armani335iarmani335i Posts: 17
    We all have same issues with this CVT thing. It shudders and jerks while accelerating from complete stop and sometimes causes unexpected acceleration, or no acceleration.

    When I took my wife's car in for warranty service to remove carbon build-up on intake valves(another major problem with Direct Fuel Injected engines with no fix), the problem temporarily reduced to almost none. After afout 2k miles, they are back again.

    Audi claim this is a CVT character, which I can agree to an extent. I had A4 as a loaner and felt similar shudder, but it was very minimal and almost unnoticable, and nothing like how mu A6 is acting.

    I can't believe no one has taken any leagal actions. Keep us in the loop if anyone decides on any further actions.
  • wgbrettwgbrett Posts: 1
    I just purchased a 2008 A6....still under warranty thank goodness. When I start the car cold in the morning and start driving it "bucks" so hard sometimes that if there were not a windshield it would probably throw me out of the car! Took it in for service and tech said that this was "normal behavior" for cvt and no codes showed up on computer for any problems.

    After it "bucks" initially for a few seconds it settles down and drives fine. There is a little hesitation when starting off from dead stop, which I have read is "normal behavior" for cvt.

    Does anyone else experience this extreme bucking behavior when starting car cold? If so, any solution?
  • dhalligdhallig Posts: 1
    I've also have an 03 A6 3.0L with the CVT Transmission and the issues you describe occurred at 50K miles. Had it repaired to the tune of $3100 in April '08. 6 months later the issue resurfaced. I took it back in to have it repaired under their "1 year 10K" warranty on the work. They said there was nothing wrong, it was just "how the CVT drives". I can remember when I first got the car in Oct '06 with only 30K miles it didn't drive like how it drives now. Basically its a commuter car for work, we use my wifes car for everything else. Everyone who knows me knows that I think its a joke and I can't wait until I can afford to get rid of it. I have also been routed through the Audi's customer service chain of command only to have them tell me that I have to work with the dealer, who wouldn't work with me on the cost of the repair. So, in the past 2 years I have personally prevented about 4-6 Audi purchases and take pleasure in telling people about my experience with "truth in engineering". I would be interested in a class action lawsuit as well.
  • mmistrymmistry Posts: 1
    edited June 2010
    I have a 2008 A6 with CVT and had the same problem at only 6k miles. I took it back to the dealer until they finally re-imaged the computer and it is mostly gone but I still feel it at times when first getting going in the morning. I now have 18k miles and I hope that it never comes back but from reading these posts, it looks like it might return.

    The thing I find most annoying is the delay at starting from a stop. I have complained to the dealer and Audi several times but they insist that is just how the CVTs are. What's funny is that about 25% of the time there is no hesitation but more often then not there is. Audi was totally useless and the dealer can't do much without Audi's support. I can't believe that Audi can put out a supposed Performance car with these type of start up problems.
  • armani335iarmani335i Posts: 17
    I took my wife's car back again 2 weeks ago for the CEL. The car's second oxygen sensor problem and they kept the car for 5 days. First attempt to replace O2 sensor was unsuccesful since I had replaced them few months back. Then they re-wired something inside the exhaust and the CEL went away. That was good.

    I also mentioned about bucking coming back again after it went away for few month preceding carbon build-up cleaning. They said it might've been related to the bad O2 sensor so they did not do anything about it.

    We went out of town last week for 4 days so I left the car at airport parking and after I picked it up, I thought I was gonna crash into a wall due to severe jerking and bucking. The jerkings have gotten progressively worse following the repair work earlier in the week that I have to take the car back in AGAIN this week. I can not afford have my wife and my daughter be in this car.

    This bucking feels like as though you are stomping on the brake, lighting fast, as you step on the gas pedal. It is kinda hard to explain.

    I will keep you guys posted. We may need to find a lawyer that would make this a case.
  • kkoo88kkoo88 Posts: 1
    I am in Los Angeles and I have the Audi A6 as well. 12k Miles on it. I am so frustrated as well. Not only CVT Problems with the car and have noise issues as well. When I take it to the different dealers they claim it's "Normal".. I think its certainately not normal and it is frustrating when they deny anything is wrong with it...
    I really want to sell it or do something about this.. I am not even sure it is just a lemon...
    In addition, I also experienced the car trying to accelerate when i am at a complete stop and steeping on the brakes. I think it's not just getting the problem fixed at this point but could lead to an accident...

    Anybody have suggestions?
  • brando124brando124 Posts: 4
    i own an a6 3.0 liter. while this hasn't been the worst experience of my life (very close), it certainly hasn't been the best. just yesterday, the transmission went out. the quotes i'm gathering are between 2k and 5k to replace it. my question: is this even worth fixing? especially after reading many audi forums and articles, i don't feel confident this will be the last of the problems my audi will see. is this a defect with the transmission (seems to be)? if it is systemic, i want to note that i bought this from an audi dealer w/ 43k miles (one owner prior i was told) and it now only has 82k miles. should i fight w/ the dealer, who is a conglomerate (has a chevy, ford, kia, subaru, volvo, vw, dealer throughout the area) and push them to take the car back, pay the remaining loan balance (a few thousand dollars) and i simply go on w/ life and get a new car from one of their other outlets? i have no problem driving a ford, chevy, etc. i just don't feel confident with this vehicle, and i in no way, want to dump thousand more in it. what are some options i might not be considering? i'm looking for people that may have gone through this already. my friends are telling me to repair so i can sell it higher, keep driving it, etc., trade it in and cut my losses. i need some outside advice.
    **i don't think they can understand the pain of owning this car. PLEASE HELP!!

    PS - i've also put about $1000-2000 per year into maintaining this gem of a car so let's not forget about that assumption.
  • brando124brando124 Posts: 4
    Hi - can you please give me your advice, i think i have the same car you do. i bought it at 40k miles from the dealer and it now has 83k. transmission just went out. i have a quote of about $1600 at a minimum to get it fixed - it will probably be about double that after they rip into the transmission and then my wallet. is it even worth it to get this done, or should i just cut my losses, try to sell it to a mechanic, get the loan as close to paid off as i can and move on from this experience? what is your advice? it seems that once this transmission is replaced, it's not going to run the same. is that your sentiment? any other excellent experiences you'd like to share would also be greatly appreciated. everyone i know also thinks this car is pretty much a joke as well. again, any advice you have would be appreciated. thanks!!!
  • brando124brando124 Posts: 4
    Wow, I thought this was just my car. I've had this same exact problem and many others. I have a 2003 A6 FWD 3.0 Liter.

    The transmission just went out yesterday, and I'm trying to solicit advice on what to do. At this point, I'm thinking of giving up on the car and starting over. Sell it to a mechanic or something...I don't know. Any advice? Greatly appreciated.
  • armani335iarmani335i Posts: 17
    edited July 2010
    Hi brando,

    I've read many forums that shares experiences on A6 CVTs and I have to tell you that this transmission is not the most reliable one out there. 82k miles on this transmission sound right. I heard CVTs are made for smaller displacement cars due to the fact that it can not withstand the tourque of bigger displacement cars. Audi kinda forced this transmission into 3.1 liter car, which probably is causing this short lifespan of the transmission. Transmission dying under 100k is just pathetic. Read up on them. Some are paying close to 10k for the replacement. With only 10k miles on the odometer, our car is jerking like a rodeo machine in the morning and too dangerous to have my wife and my daughter in the car.

    BTW, my problem may not be directly linked to the CVT, but it is definitely making the situation worse. My wife's car is in the shop for over 10 days now without them being able to fix it.
  • I have an 2004 Audi A6 with the cvt transmission. This transmission has been nothing but a problem since we bought it. We had to have the control module replaced at 46,000. We have 72,000 miles on it and my wife noticed the bucking and jerking during initial acceleration. We found the motor mounts bad. A dirveshaft bad and the transmission had a problem. It cost us over $5000 for repairs. On the transmission the added two additional clutch plates. We now have 7 clutch plates. It made the car better but not great. Now we have a new problem and they are telling us that it will cost 7400 to replace the transmission. This has all occured in the last month. The car isn't worth fixing. I have also noticed that Audi has not stepped up to the plate in regards to this transmission. I would think there are enough problems for a class action suit.
  • I have a 2002 Audi A6 3.0 Quattro with only 66,000 miles on it and have just been advised by my dealer that I need a new transmission. I just had both (passenger and driver sides) catalytic converters replaced last week. I have been getting estimates between 3,500 and 3,800 to replace the transmission. It does not make sense to me that a vehicle (even this age) with this low mileage would require a new transmission. I am looking at getting rid of this car because I no longer have confidence in the brand or the dealers. I agree that Audi should step up and handle these issues with a recall. I googled "Audi Transmission Problems" and apparently the new Audi's are having transmission problems as well, but Audi did recall those.
  • I have an 2002 Audi A6 3.0L CVT and the same this is happening to me..The car starts to decelerate when I'm pressing down on the gas, and my mechanic says it's a internal failure, and recommends replacing the WHOLE transmission. That's 7K!!!
    He says that even if he replaces the transmission module ($3500), that is a temp fix and would only last a few months. Audi knows about these problems and wont recall the transmissions.. What mechanic are you all going to??? Any recs in LOS ANGELES???
  • I have soooo many problems with this car that I am trying to have Audi buy it back. The car is 2008 with only 15k miles, but had numerous warranty work done to it. The car just came back after 13 days of service few days ago and the total days that the car was in service is like 60 days when you add all the warranty works done to the car. These problems include: cvt transmission reprogramming, ecu module reprogramming and replacement, numerous intake valve carbon build cleaning, 3 time oxygen sensor failures, catalyc converter replacement. All of these issues had engine malfunction light on.

    Although my service guy is extremely knowledgeable and attentive, I just can't continue with this nonsense. I will never recommend 3.2 liter CVT engine.
  • I am having similar issues as reported by other in this forum. I bought a used 2003 A6 a few years ago with 57,000 miles. Bought from a friend of a friend who was meticulous with the maintenance. The beauty of the purchase was that it was still under the full warranty for 6 months. I took it in to the dealer (in San Francisco) a month before the warranty expired and asked them to check out everything very thoroughly because if anything at all was wrong, I wanted to fix it (it was a third party warranty). I was told everything was fine and I left with a $150 dollar oil change.

    Of course, 6 months later I take it back for another oil change (I don't drive it that much). I get a call a few hours later saying that the transmission needs to be replaced to the tune of over $8k, after parts and labor. Instead of paying my $100 deductible 6 months earlier, I'm now on the hook for $8k. Its possible that my transmission went from "just fine" to "needs to be replaced for 8 grand" in the span if 3,000 miles, but I highly doubt it.

    Anyway, I have not fixed it because its not worth it and the car has been running ok for the last year or so (although I drive it infrequently). I have found a few tips that seem to minimize the shuttering and bucking:

    The few times that it has bucked on me were when I shifted quickly and hit the gas. Waiting an extra second after shifting before hitting the gas has helped reduce the bucking. Also, I have found that the shuttering occurs when the car shifts at low RPMs. When I use the sport shift and shift at higher RPMs, I haven't had as many problems.

    Anyway, these are probably specific to my situation but may help you as well. I assume many others are in my position and just want to ride it out until the thing just stops running.

    Good luck with the lawsuit. I generally hate class actions, but would have no problem opting-in on this one.
  • cpmediacpmedia Posts: 1
    edited May 2011
    Let's get that class action going, baby!

    Bought my 2002 A6 3.0 five years ago, and started noticing this problem about 2 years ago (60K miles). Getting progressively worse, and it's driving me nuts. LOVED (and still love) the car so much, but now feel like what's the point of getting a beautiful car that doesn't run as well as a 15 year-old Toyota??

    I also have kids and am getting worried that I'll pull out into traffic to have the thing fail on me. Not good.

    Also in Los Angeles. Still looking for a great mechanic.

    In the meantime, who's got a GOOD LAWYER? Count me in!!
  • 5audis5audis Posts: 1
    I took my A6 in under original warranty three times prior to 50k miles to Mobile Dean McCrary Audi dealer- computer did not register problem with transmission. Would jerk when starting, especially in reverse. I got extended warranty with dealer when 49k mile in month of expiration. Finance manager never turned in my credit card number for payment. Two months later, problem persists and had at dealer for eight days, three driven by a "mechanic". Dealer admitted mistake in extended warranty and would recertify vehicle to allow me to pay for warranty. Returned next month(56k mi) for certification and "passed". Everything met Audi certified criteria. I found a car on the lot during the recertification process(2 hours) that I wanted to trade the A6 in for. They drove the car "one last time" and found that there was a major transmission problem. They were going to apply for the extended warranty anyway but I did not agree as would have been illegal in my mind. I am now stuck with progressively worse and very loud transmission at low gear. I am considering legal action but I really do not have the time. I am MD and not a fan of class action(or any legal process) but the way I was treated makes me consider.
  • c_nicec_nice Posts: 1
    Well, it is very interesting to read about all of these Audi CVT transmission problems happening "just out of warrantly". I bought a 2004 Audi A6 in 2006 with about 27k miles. It seemed like a pretty safe bet to get a low-mileage Audi for under $19k with the balance of the manufacturer's warranty in place. Around 46-48k miles, I noticed a lunge when slowing down and the transmission would seem to stick when shifting from 2nd to 1st. It happened most often when it was cold and could be completely eliminated by using the tiptronic to downshift it manually. I took it to the local Jim Ellis Audi (Marietta, GA) and they said they "could not duplicate the problem". I am now convinced that they knew exactly what was wrong and seem to have been instructed to push these problems away until the vehicle is out of warranty. That is a consistent theme with all of the notes that have been posted to date. At 68580 miles, the problem suddenly got much worse. When shifting to the lowest gear, the car would start bucking and jerking. Same thing on acceleration from a stop until the transmission shifted into 2nd and above. I immediately made an appointment with Jim Ellis Audi, but they could not get me in for a few days. The local garage said they would have a look so I tried to drive it there. Just as I arrived and was sitting in the intersection waiting to turn left, the Audi started bucking forward (with the brake on). I managed to get it to the mechanic, but ended up having it towed to Audi from there. Audi service quoted $9580 to replace the CVT transmission. Even a reputable local transmission mechanic quoted $7500 because the CVT is sealed and has little or no replaceable parts. I ended up getting a $2k trade-in allowance on a used 2011 Toyota Camry. Funny thing - when I went back to get my stuff out of the A6, I told the Service Specialist on duty that my insurance company called this "a common problem with that model". He said that is not the case and has never heard of one failing like that. (Hmmm. Probably doesn't read the forums or Audi service journals.) When I told him how disappointed I was that the Audi would fail at such low mileage, he looked at me, and said, "Will that be all?", as he handed me the bill for $117 for evaluating the transmission. I guess now that I purchased a Toyota, I am not "part of the club" anymore. The Sales Manager seemed somewhat sympathetic, but talked more about why people should purchase a certified pre-owned vechicle instead of a used one from anyone other than Audi. The certification extends the warranty to 100k miles. If anyone ever asks me about my Audi experience, I will be sure to warn them about the CVT transmission.
  • WOW.
    I received a 2002 a6 quatro with a little over 10,000 miles from my mom in law a few months ago. I've been looking over her repairs for the last 9 years and it has cost her over $10,000.00.
    Three weeks after getting it, it started throwing codes for left and right bank lean. then left and right bank rich. mass flow, and even started kicking up the abs (esp) light. Also have the shudder on takeoff from time to time as well as hesitation.
    Told a local mech. about it and he said "good luck finding a good Audi mechanic". However he did give me one good piece of advice..."Look for a loose ground". Before driving it again I cleared all the codes and shook all the wires I could find under the hood. It took two weeks before I started throwing codes again and the shuddering. (Hesitation has continued but I think I know what that is and will fix later).
    Now all I have to do is find the one or two loose grounds and I think it will be fixed. Hope this helps. I know before I tried this I thought the car was going to fall apart right where it was.
  • Purchased an Audi a 6 2007 4 years ago. It turned itself off in drive mode 2 months after purchase. This has continued sporadically. Followed Lemon Law exactly and lost. Dealer can't fix it because no fault codes found. Therefore, they are not responsible!

    Four long years, very dangerous driving situation. At one point, Audi offered us $2000 to go away and tell no one about this arrangement.

    $40,000 for a car that broke 2 months after purchase and Audi is not responsible?

    Hello Audi: Software only looks for what it's programed to find !

    We tell everyone: do not buy an Audi, especially one with CVT.

    This is not a manufacturer that stands behind their product and they do not care about driver safety.
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