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2009 Subaru Legacy

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  • jdljrjdljr Posts: 11
    I'm lovin my 09 Legacy 2.5i SE so far. Looks GREAT, rides GREAT. About 275 miles on it since picking it up a week ago. I got the quartz silver metallic and the spoiler, foglights, moonroof and splash guards just set it off. Haven't yet gone through a full tank of gas, but will be monitoring the mileage in the coming weeks/months. We're going out of town for vacation beginning tomorrow and, while I'd like to take the Subie on the road trip to the airport (125 miles), the Subie is staying at home! I don't want to risk leaving it at the aiport. Rather leave it safely at the house. :shades:
  • I was at my dealership today having the oil changed on my 01 Outback so I wandered around the lot. I LOVE the style of the Legacy. It is very sharp looking with a great design. Again, I reiterate, why did they get rid of the Wagon version?!?! :)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Because the Outback outsold it even at a higher price.

    We owned a Legacy wagon, but there just were not enough of us.
  • I just picked up my '09 Outback Saturday (returning to Subaru after 12 years of really bad car choices) and it rattles too; but the rattle is from my rear license plate frame not having bottom holes to fasten it and the bottom of the license to the car...other than that it's very quiet. :P
  • I took my new Legacy SE out to run an errand tonight. With the fall chill in the air I decided to turn on the heat. The car has the manual system. I simply turned the heat dial all the way up and turned on the fan. The AC button was deactivated.

    Result? Nothing but cold air blowing through the vents. I'm wondering whether I may have missed something in the operation of the system or whether I may have a problem. The system is obviously very simple and presumably works just like any other manual system.

    Just thought I'd ask if anyone knows of something I may have missed or whether
    I need to make my first service trip. I should point out that I've used the AC several times with perfectly normal results.

    Thanks in advance.

    Len
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Hmm could be a fuse for the heat not working, a friend with a manual system on his Nissan Frontier had that problem.

    It is odd though.

    -mike
    Motorsports and Modifications Host
  • Taking it in tomorrow morning. Dealer was very cooperative and is providing a loaner.
  • cptpltcptplt Posts: 1,075
    I've done maybe a thousand highway miles this summer, cruising at 65 I was getting 32mpg calculated and displayed with 2 adults and 2 big teenagers! better than my 98 Legacy GT. doing my regular commute I;m getting 25mpg.
  • robsisrobsis Posts: 160
    Let us know what the problem ends up being...I have an 09 LTD, so it has the auto system....but all I could think of is the valve in your system didn't open for some reason to allow the coolant to flow through....I have seen these frozen in the past; however, not on a new vehicle.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I've had that on several cars.

    Get some of that self-adhesive stuff you put on the bottom of chairs to protect floors. They are usually soft wool and would quiet that rattle down.
  • Took it in this morning. Had it back by 2:00 p.m. DX: First said it had some heater switch turned off, but then decided to replace heater control module. It seems fine now. Best part of the experience was this small dealership had no lines or delays for service and provided a loaner. I was literally in and out in 10 minutes.

    The loaner was a low end Impreza 5 door. I have to tell you when I returned to my car this afternoon I felt like I was getting into a Bentley. The Impreza had not one speck of interior that wasn't rock hard ugly black plastic.

    Once again I'm amazed at the high level of interior quality on the Legacy. The car has soft touch material almost everywhere.Only the far bottom of the doors has any hard material. Even the center console has carpeting on the sides. Not only feels great, but looks great everywhere.

    My one very minor complaint. The XM on the Subaru does not scroll songs or other information. A relative who is an enginner for Ford told me that Subaru is skimping on the system. For another $5-10 per car the additional software to provide this information would be available. Considering that the XM install on Subarus is pretty pricey you would think they could provide this upgrade.
  • robsisrobsis Posts: 160
    Glad it was an easy, fast fix....

    Now, as to your Sat comment, I'll need to borrow the car from the owner (my wife!) and check that out...I have Sirius; however, I can't see that it would make a difference from XM. That does sound goofy if it is just a software thing...and they just don't add a line of code or something.....

    Now, on to your interior quality comment.....we just got done riding in a new '09 Lincoln MKZ AWD. Nice car; however, for an extra 13k over what we paid, I certainly didn't think the interior was any nicer than the Leggy. I must admit, tho, that the V6 in the Lincoln was nice...but not nice enough to warrant the extra ching by any stretch....especially considering that if we wanted the same luxury with more power we can opt for the flat 6 or the turbo, both of which are still substantially cheaper that the Lincoln... :)
  • I guess money isn't as tight as I think. For people to spend 10-15K more for an "entry level" luxury car makes no sense to me. Then again, maybe they've never even considered or even looked at a Legacy.

    Years ago, I dreamed of owning a Jag XJ. Finally made the move in the early 90's on a good lease deal (if a 500+ payment for 4 yrs. is a good deal). I loved the leather and wood interior. Funny thing though, after about a year the car became just an appliance and seemed no better or worse than much less expensive cars.

    Since then I've always looked at value for money as the primary consideration in a vehicle purchase. If that value for money deal could give me a quality interior then I would be ecstatic. Well the 09 Legacy SE has gone above and beyond.

    It's funny I have a strange kind of buyer's remorse. Because the residual on the lease is so high (making the payment so cheap) I doubt I'd be willing to buy the car off lease. Here I've had the car less than two weeks and I'm already contemplating wanting to keep it forever. Well, the 2010 will be a major overhaul so time will tell whether that will be more or less appealing than the current model.
  • pilot1226pilot1226 Posts: 165
    Question regarding the Yokohama tires on the `09 Legacy Limited...

    I recently read an article about Grip vs. Durability, related specifically to the tread life. Can anyone recommend a good brand / model of tire for long-term tread life (we're talking 4+ years)? I've had some issues with previous cars (my 2000 Civic in particular) needing new tires about every 3 years - and I was told it wasn't caused by my driving habits, it was evenly worn.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Why would you want tires that last 4 years? Generally the rubber compound is going to only last at the very best 3-4 years from the date of manufacture. I have been known to toss tires after 2 years of use, not due to worn tread but lack of adhesion. What happens over time is the rubber breaks down and becomes more brittle and "hard". Once this happens your lateral grip on them diminishes greatly. There may be plenty of tread but the rubber simply isn't sticking to the ground.

    For an all season tire, my favorite is the Sumitomo HTR+, they are very inexpensive and while they wear out usually in about 25k miles, the inexpensive price outweighs the short life.

    -mike
    Motorsports and Modifications Host
  • We've been happy with Goodyear Assurance Triple Tred on our 2002 Outback.

    Good all around traction- laterally, starting, braking and in rain. Much better than the OEM Bridgestones which were replaced at 24K. The Goodyears have been on about three years now that's about 36K. I agree with the other poster that I change tires as soon as they start to feel at all slippery, and that is often at around 5- 32nds which is about 50% of full tread depth when new.

    I never get the miles that some claim to get from their tires.
  • Today, when I started my Legacy, everything seemed fine with exception to stereo and climate control displays were not working. I turned the car off and on another three times and the issue didn't resolve itself. Also, the ambient lighting in that area wasn't working. It affected the shift lighting too. The information center, (outside temp, time etc) worked fine, and so did the seat heaters as well as the light indicating the seat heater was on. All functions of the tachometer, speedometer, odometer, etc, worked fine as well.

    I drove into town with the car like that. After getting to work, I turned the car off and asked a friend to assist me checking the brake lights to make sure they worked, as well as blinkers and such, (my thinking was it might have been a blown fuse). When I turned the ignition again, the stereo and climate control displays were all visible again.

    I called the mechanic at my Subaru dealership and he said if it was presently working, the computer wouldn't find anything wrong. He said to keep an eye on it and if it continues happening regularly, they'll look into it, as I have lots of warranty time left.

    I thought it strange the displays would be nonexistent, yet the stereo and heater and such operated normally. I just couldn't see to change anything if I had wanted to.

    Overall, I thought it bizarre, and that maybe my car has attracted a spectre of some sort :P
  • pilot1226pilot1226 Posts: 165
    Thanks for the response. I've been reading up on the different tires lately and I've been leaning towards GoodYear too when the time comes to replace the Yokohamas.

    @Mike: Sorry, I didn't mean to give the impression that I would ride them bald to the 4 year mark... I just was a little perturbed at the fact that I felt like I was getting new tires all the time for my Civic despite the fact that I am very good about maintenance and rotations... My wife, for example, never does tire rotations and her Firestone Firehawks lasted from the original purchase date in 2001 until 2006. She playfully mocks me constantly about my "abusive driving" habits and having to get tires for the Civ every few years.

    But, that being said, I think a lot has to do with the fact that I'm buying a promotional brand of tire, like Kelly Navigators, that are $40 each.

    On the plus side, when the Legacy is paid off in another 2 1/2 years or when the Nissan quits (whichever happens first), we plan on getting a new Outback. My wife has snookered the Legacy somehow (still not quite sure how she did it...) and I'm driving the 2001 Nissan Sentra.
  • leo2633leo2633 Posts: 589
    If your Sentra is anything like the one I bought new in 1992, took good care of and sold to my brother-in-law a few years ago, you'll be paying off the Legacy first. That Sentra now has 325,000 miles and is still going strong!

    Len
  • With winter weather being here I have stalled on getting tinting on my '09 Legacy Limiteds windows. I made an appt today to get it done for next week. I am hoping to get it as close to the shade of the sunroof as possible. I'll take some pics after it's done and post em here
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Should look nice. You goin' with 35% visible light or so?
  • robsisrobsis Posts: 160
    My wife bought herself an 09 Legacy LTD in pearl and had the back tinted in what they called medium-dark and the front windows in medium-light. We love it. If I can get it away from her for a while I, too, will try to post some pics. You will enjoy the tinting and it really made the vehicle look sharp, IMHO. People ask us all the time: "What kind of car is that? An Acura or Lexus?" They are surprised to find out it is a Subie!
  • u542u542 Posts: 11
    Can somebody help a guy out.Looking to buy a 09 outback I really don't need all the bells and whistles but would like in the middle.Must be an automaticWhat model can I get and what would be a fair price .Thanks
  • morin2morin2 Posts: 399
    The Special Edition, often abbreviated here on these forums as "SE" is the sweet spot on '09 Outbacks. Pick up a brochure and compare what you get on the SE vs the base model and see if its worth it to you. It certainly was worth it to me. You should be able to get a new 09 SE with the 2.5 & auto for about $21K after the $2K rebate. Check prices paid and buying advice - Outback for more info. The next level up for about $4K more is "Limited" and you are paying more for leather and sunroof - which are nice, but I decided not worth the $ to me. That's where it is a personal decision.
  • u542u542 Posts: 11
    Thank You so much for the info.I'll let you know what I get.Thanks again
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Another vote for the SE.

    If you look at lease residuals, they actually maintain a higher % of their original value, so you may even recoup the small extra investment later when you sell it, and if so the extras would basically be free.
  • dog629dog629 Posts: 6
    Have to also vote for the Outback SE. Paid $21,660 for an auto with PZEV in CT on 4-18.

    Very happy with the HK stereo, winter package, fogs, cargo mat and cover, 17" alloys, etc.

    The car handles beautifully, the 2.5i engine is more than fine for me, and the fit and finish feels much more expensive than the price paid. Simply put, it's a really nice car.

    It's my first Subaru (former Toyota diehard) and so far I'm thrilled with my decision.
  • u542u542 Posts: 11
    Thank You for the info.I can't wait to get mine.I here nothing but good things about the outback.I think I'm going to wait until mid May ( if I can wait that long ) to get it.Thanks again
  • u542u542 Posts: 11
    I'm sorry to bother you again ,but was that price with taxes or without.Thank You again for your help.
  • Am in Canada and considering buying the Legacy wagon. Anyone out there have any experience with them? I know they don't sell them in the US anymore but thought another Canuck might be browsing. Also, they come with frameless windows, has anyone had any issues with this type of window. I recall my father having a car with them and they sucked but this was back in the '60s so I assume things have improved since then.

    Cross shopping against a Forester and Jetta wagon.
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