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Because you're too nice of a girl, and he's an [non-permissible content removed].
You should have confirmed the price of the car the first thing upon your return. When he said $10,999 and your car, you should have kneed him in the groin. Other than that you did the right thing in walking away... never to return.
The one price store runs a 30 minute infomercial on cable tv discussing the sales process and why they do it. Lots of testimonials from current customers.
Like you, I used to be anti one price but if done properly with the right product it can work. It requires 100% dedication. They will walk a customer over $10. Most dealers don't have the intestinal fortitude or vision to get it off the ground and make it work.
younger buyers in general find it alot easier and without sounding sexist...Women love it...
What is the name of the dealership?
He lowballs anyone that walks onto the lot, hoping they'll forget the price. In fact if he's doing that to 10 people a day, he himself forgets what price he gives out, creating the predicament he puts himself in.
Then he tried to bump you by selling you the car at full sticker. And make you trade in your van. Nobody HAS TO trade in a anything if they don't want to. It just goes to show that he doesn't listen to his customers very well.
As for the multiple credit checks, I think they were in fact checking to see if you went elsewhere to buy the car. This doesn't speak highly of the dealership itself, as salespeople usually don't pull credit reports, only managers and finance office do.
I'd file a complaint with the BBB, and places that others suggested. I'd also call the salesman and find out why the credit was pulled so many times.
Good luck and good for you for not caving in and giving them the business. Places like that make everyone else look bad.
2016 Audi A7 3.0T S Line, 2021 Subaru WRX
I've never heard of running multiple credit checks and I would pursue this.
As a freindly bit of advise, if you break a long post into paragraphs it makes them a whole lot easier to read!
Glad it worked out in the end!
Hold on there, men AND WOMEN salesfolk do things like this to BOTH men and women. You got played by the "It's yesterday's price" scam where they hit you with a higher price when you return because they think they've got you. I've had that tried on me too and I'm a very manly man (or so I tell myself).
You were both wise and lucky to get away from that dealership. Can you imagine what the car would have been like if that was how they had to sell it?
As to the multiple credit checks, I would get a lawyer and sue the bastards. Messing up your credit is akin to defaming your character. If they went around town calling you a deadbeat you would have a cause of action, why not when they do it in the credit bureaus? :mad:
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Definitely bring it up and I would confront the dealer as well with lawyers in tow. Unbelievably dirty dealership.
Please post the name of the dealership and the salesperson. That should be some good press for them. They deserve it.
A) Fill out a free initial security alert on your credit. This means that for 90 days nobody can open any accounts without approval from you. It won't prevent any credit inquiries, but it'll give you a bit more protection if the dealership retaliates for whatever reason. The link over at Experian is http://tinyurl.com/59ch8
Contact your local tv newstation. Nothing like bad publicity in this climate!!!
Good luck. Let us know what happens.
Angel
Today I also pulled my credit reports. My Equifax shows the following:
March 15, 2008 - This was the day I was there when they pulled my credit. After this day, I never saw him, never returned his phone calls, never went back over there, BUT...
Two days later when I did not return his calls or go over there, here's the dates they did an Inquiry on my credit report:
March 17 - he ran my credit through 8 different companies
March 29 - he ran my credit through 7 different companies & some are the
very same companies he ran them through on March 17th
March 30 - he ran my credit through a company where he had already run it through on March 17th
So it was 20 inquiries with a total of 16 different finance companies.
Add that to the credit that was pulled for where I did buy my car.
Well, you guys have given me alot to think about...I really appreciate your guidance. I AM going to do something about this...
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I personally have never heard of a modern day radial flat spotting unless you made a panic stop from high speed travel (assuming no ABS brakes) and skidding to a stop. That would "flat spot" tires.
And yeah when he started this crap about I HAD TO give him my car and I could NOT sell it myself, I remember this flash in my brain thinking.....how stupid you are to sit here and look me in the eye and tell this crap?! I mean - who would fall for that?? Maybe someone, I guess, but for me the math just didn't work. What a jerk.
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I can only imagine that you signed a privacy notice and a credit app that gave this dealer permission to run your credit.
As for them running it through several banks doesn't surprise me at all. They are shopping bank rates. Every dealer does it. the point is "when they " do it... It doesn't sound like you were very commited to the deal so best practice would have been not to do it.
GP
GP I’m surprised at you.
The point is, how often the dealer did this dirty deed. Waaay excessive to find a good rate for a customer as far as I’m concerned.
Are you on the “sauce” again? :confuse:
jmonroe
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It's ok to do it when the customer agrees to it, BUT they had no reason of doing it again and again even 2-3 weeks after she was there, especially when she had no contact with them, no deposit, and no signed deal.
2016 Audi A7 3.0T S Line, 2021 Subaru WRX
Well that is a good question.... right now the answer is yes.... Weddings and Funerals... And I had a couple of those recently.
There are some questions and things that don't add up.... correct me if I am wrong, the OP went to a dealer, got lowballed the day before :mad: , came back the next day asked for the kid and he went up on price $3,000.
Now I am assuming she gave the dealer permission to run her credit. She would have had to sign a credit app AND privacy notice. We need those two forms on file to be in compliance. Now whether she was paying cash or financing I don't actually remember. But I think she mentioned her credit union.
For the record I don't think they should have ran her credit unless they had a commitimnet from the OP to buy or if she mentioned she had was credit challenged.
Don't know if that is the case or not.
Now for what I said earlier about running it too banks.
If someone has solid credit we know which bank we are going to go through and only need to submit it that bank. If someone is a little credit challenged, after we have a comittment from the customer we shop around different banks. All I am suggesting is the sales kid ran it 1 day... for what ever reason (I do remember the OP's reason) lets just say management thought they had a deal and the deal goes to the finance department. Two 2 days later the finance department is sending it to banks to see where they can get the best rate.
In the mean time she went some where else and bought a toyota... doesn't surprise me toyota buys everyone.
I actually don't remember if it was a toyota and I am not trying to imply the OP is credit challenged I am only speaking of reasons why it would or could have happened.
Bottom line I would say the original salesclown she dealt with blew the deal!
Also if they did send out her credit info to different banks they would have responded to her also with a letter in the mail. To be honest I am not sure if they send one if you are approved... but I do know they send one out if you are declined because I tell customers that will happen when we shop numerous banks like i listed above.
I suggest the OP contact a attorney like other peole have suggested especialy if her score went down 80 points.
Where ever you have been you can always return :shades:
gP
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
It's not a scam really. The person holding open title is probably a curbstoner, which is an individual who buys and sells used cars without a license.
If you buy a car with a title signed by Mr. Jones, now being sold to you by Mr. Smith, who didn't sign it, then once you register it there is no record or paper trail whatsoever of Mr. Smith. He pays no reg, no sales tax, carries no license, no bonding, etc. and there is no evidence he even sold you the car.
If Smith had signed the title he'd be obligated to re-title it in his name and pay sales tax (In CA at least) He's not under an obligation to register it.
If Smith doesn't want to do that, then he should fill out papers for Duplicate Title and pass the original title, plus these papers, on to you. Then at least Smith is in the paper trail.
That's where the 'scam' comes in. They don't pay taxes or register here in the States.
A person should always ask the person selling a used car...
" How long have you owned it"?
I have done this and a curbstoner will usually come up with " I'm selling it for a friend"
I once had a guy get upset.." What do you care" Why do you want to know?"
If you call and say..." I'm calling about the car you have advertised" and they say "Which one?"
You are probably dealing with a curbstomer.
Ducking and running
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Cheaper than a repo man? :confuse:
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Here is an old link that mentions it..
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I also had somebody call me who came up with a similiar device and tried to sell me on it (we run some ads that cater to sub prime market). This guy's idea was mainly good for bhph lots, not a dealer like us that acts as an agent between the buyer and the bank.
Anyways for bhph lots, this guy's idea was that when the payment was due, he had to drive in, pay, and get the electronic box activated for another month or so. If he's late on the payment, then the car would die I guess unless he makes a payment, and gets the box reactivated again by the dealer. It's not remote controlled though, it's some kind of manual electronic device.
The remote control immobilizer opens the door for too much liability imo. If a driver is on the freeway and the car dies, or if he's making a left hand turn, or crossing the railroads tracks...... and the car gets disabled suddenly. Then what? Yo gonna risk someone's life cause they didn't make a car payment?
Anyways I declined, and it's more hassle than it's worth for us. Besides, we rarely had to do any repos. The banks deal with that.
2016 Audi A7 3.0T S Line, 2021 Subaru WRX
I would say that its a big liability even if it was something that was on a timer that gets reset each month (or whenever payment is due). Can you see this car on the highway or crossing a rail road crossing at midnight on the last day of the month when the payment hasn't been made? Or if the darn thing malfunctions and just turns the car off regardless of if he is late with his payment or not.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
I assume the economy taking a turn has changed your mind?
When one of our customers order a vehicle, we have them sign a paper that states their deposit is nonrefundable and will cover any costs that may arise if you do not take delivery. At most, you're out $1,000. They can't make you buy the vehicle though. You'll be fine.
Talk to the dealer and be honest. They can't even hook you for the $1k because it has not been run.
congrats in advance, btw.
when we were expecting our second, i talked my wife into letting us buy a mustang gt convertible (it's now or never). 17 years later, we still have it!
I had a Sebring convertible (not the same thing) that went by the boards when expansion beyond two kids put us in a van.
This year I was nice to myself and picked up a 99 Celica convertible which covers the top down needs nicely.
Quick question, what number do I call to bill the cars out to Edmunds at these prices they are willing to give fo trade ins, do they pick them up or do we ship them to them?
I have tried to find the same info for KBB, and NADA but have had no luck.
I think it is funny how the headlines got off the Home Sales and onto the Market for a month and viola, home sales go up 5% last month.
So it's a hit and miss proposition. If you are going to go this route, I would ask if you could tag a long to check out the vehicles your self. I wasn't able to go along and I ended up with something that wasn't what I thought it was going to be. It was exactly what I wanted (had ALL the options I wanted), but it needed lots of help to stay operational. ..
Ya we opened the new store on June 16. Some days it feels like it was just yesterday, others it feels like years have gone buy.
Thank you all for the welcome back.
Friday afternoon my wife backed over something that fell off the shelf in out garage and punctured the front tire. When I got home I removed the tire and went to go get it plugged. the tire place would not plug the tire as there were already THREE plugs in the tire and as luck would have it, this puncture was about an inch from an existing plug. They also told me the maximum number of plugs per tire is TWO.
Now, as stated above, this is a CPO vehicle. The tread on the tires was within CPO specs when we bought it, but just barely. However, shouldn't they have replaced a tire with THREE plugs? On the 150Pt inspection it states "Tires free of road hazzards" Can three plugs be considered a road hazzard? My wife called Saturday and spoke to either a salesperson or receptionist who told her that three plugs were ok and we were SOL. She didn't have alot of time to spend on the phone so she didn;t elevate it any further.
Since we needed the car for today, I ended up replacing both front tires yesterday. I had the place check the other tires and they could not see any other plugs on the remaining tires. I kept the plugged tire to bring to the dealership should I pursue this.
So, should I elevate this further?
Thanks
Peeter