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2010 Mazda3

exit123exit123 Posts: 136
edited March 18 in Mazda
Is there any truth to the rumor that Mazda is dropping the 5-door for the 2010 Mazda3, and that they will only offer the manual transmission in the base models?
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  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    NO truth what so ever. Both sedan and 5-door will be available.

    The i model will have a 5-speed auto, or a 5-speed manual. The s model will have a 5-speed auto or a 6-speed manual.
  • I hope we see some uncamo'd shots of the hatchback soon. Sounds like only the sedan will be in LA next month. Any idea when these are going to hit the dealerships and if the sedan and hatch will both land at the same time?
  • exit123exit123 Posts: 136
    I don't know ... that's what they said about the Mazda6 too, that there would be both sedan and hatch, then the hatch suddenly vanished from the offerings. Why are all the photos sedans, and the unveiling will be sedan only? Hmmm.
  • mz6greyghostmz6greyghost Posts: 1,230
    Looking into this a little too much aren't we? :)

    Unlike the 5-door Mazda6, the 5-door Mazda3 is actually a fair percentage of all 3's sold. I'm not expecting the 5-door to go anywhere.
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  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Did you read the Mazda press release that stated the 5-door will debut after the North American debut of the sedan?

    I have the order forms for the Mazda3 already, both sedan and 5-door are on there. We are just awaiting when to place them.

    Since you don't believe me, here is a link to the 5-door spy photos.....

    http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsGallery.aspx?AR=235310&EL=-1&IM=195562
  • exit123exit123 Posts: 136
    I'll believe it when I see it. Mazda said the same thing about the Mazda6 (available in sedan, 5-door, and wagon). Then they said oops sorry, that's not for the US, only in Europe. The debut of the 5-door could be for Europe too, and the spy photos look like they are over there as well. I have no doubt they have a 5-door model, but it could be just for Europe and other markets where hatchbacks sell better.
  • Good point, the spy shots of the hatch have euro tags, but hopefully we'll see some US spy shots of the hatch soon considering the sedan still has another month before it goes on display in LA. As far as I'm concerned, no hatch = no sale for me.

    aviboy - can you order one for me? I'll take a Pearl White 6 speed hatch with sunroof, heated seats and bluetooth. :shades: ;)
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Mazda never stated that the U.S was getting a 5-door or wagon version of the Mazda6. They said from day one that the North American version is not the same as the JDM/Euro version.

    As I said, I have the online order forms for the Mazda3 already, both sedan and 5-door are on it. I know the colors, packages, trim levels, engines, transmissions. I know all but price and exact specs.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    LOL!

    I would love to order you one. I cannot until November. That is when the first allocation is placed.

    What color do you want the interior?? I bet you didn't know there was a choice.... ;)
  • mpg60mpg60 Posts: 71
    hey avi, if the first allocation can be ordered by dealers in November, then it would seem the new 3 will be available early 09 say first quarter. i like the fact they are offering different interior colors. is that across the board for even gt models. that is the only thing i didn't like was an all black interior
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Yes, the 2010 Mazda3 will be in dealer inventory in January. My guess is week4. Mazda has altered their production process, which knocked about 2 weeks off production/shipment time. Thank God!

    They are offering 2 different interior colors for the GT, only in certain exterior colors. I cannot disclose that exact color just yet. There is an abundance of new exterior colors too. I can't wait to see what they really look like.
  • mpg60mpg60 Posts: 71
    thanks for the info. if i was in your area i'd buy one from you. in the big atl here. i can order one then next year in time for my b-day in may. i really like the new look of the 3. very sharp.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Found this and thought I'd share.

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  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    uh no! I hope the hood scoop is just for the prototype :sick:
  • unixxusunixxus Posts: 97
    Looks like this time the scoop is for real. It is too well integrated into the hood to be fake. I think having the intake on the hood will resolve the initial heat issues the mazdaspeed6 with a similar engine originally had, and will serve to help differentiate it from the non mazdaspeed 5-door version.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    The hood scoop really does not help with heat soak either. All it takes is a look into the Subi forums and notice how after a few hard runs, the TMIC is virtually useless. A front mount is the best way to go for cooling turbo charged air.
  • Just remember with the Mazda 3 that the tires will wear after 30k no matter what tires are on the car. I have a 2006 and unless they fixed this in 2010 then they are going to wear out faster than they should so be prepared to spend a lot of money on tires. I have 24k on my tires and I need new ones and I drive 10 miles a day to and from work. If you drive 30k a year then be prepared to buy new tires every year. I don't think Mazda has fixed this problem and they haven't had a recall either.

    I just want to let you know so that you are not surprised and you have all the information on the car. I love my car and if I put 30k a year on my car I'd be pissed right now but still I had my car for 2 1/2 years and having to replace them now sucks too.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Well, since Mazda does not manufacture the tires, why would they recall them? Unless they are defective, and went with an alternate brand. There is nothing wrong with the tire, and there is nothing to fix. There is no performance vehicle that has tires that last.

    Bridgestone is the supplier. Remember, they are a performance summer "Z" rated tires. They are meant to provide dry road grip. Any tire that has handling as their first design priority will never last. Your sales person should have told you that.

    There is a simple fix to your solution. Buy 4 season radials, and you will get 30K plus out of them. Also, how do you drive your Speed? Like it was designed to drive? Or do you drive it like a regular Mazda3? I highly doubt it's the latter of the two, or else you would not have purchased it.
  • mz6greyghostmz6greyghost Posts: 1,230
    Aviboy nailed it.

    It's not Mazda's fault if the tires are wearing out quickly, they're SUPPOSED to. The tire compounds are specifically formulated to give you excellent traction at all costs. In most cases, extreme performance and long treadlife are mutually exclusive qualities, you usually have to sacrifice one to get the other.

    It's the exact same case with the Mazdaspeed 6. They were equipped with Bridgestone Potenza RE050As, a "max performance summer" tire, with an average treadlife of 10-12K miles (with some going much sooner than that). It's the same case with all other automakers that throw on high-performance tires on their high-performance cars, not just unique to Mazda.

    You can easily buy all-seasons for the Speed3. Be prepared to lose some traction and control when driving at 9 or 10/10ths, but you'll get a longer-lasting tire.
  • biker4biker4 Posts: 746
    Will the '10 hatch require the bigger (2.5?) engine?
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Yep. The 5-door will have the 2.5L.
  • Aviboy,

    Have you heard if Mazda improved the A/c for the '10 Mazda 3?
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Last I knew, the a/c was fixed back in 06-07.

    I have no technical info for the 2010 Mazda3 just yet.
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    The 5-door will have the 2.5L
    I wonder if there will be other engine choices offered. This year Mazda Canada introduced the Mazda3 hatchback in a GX model with a 2.0 L engine in addition to the GS and GT models equipped with the 2.3 L engine. In Europe, the Mazda3 hatchback comes with a variety of engines (including diesel).
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Nope, just the 2.5L. The 2.2L CD would be nice though
  • Carscoop is saying that the hatchback will be unveiled on Dec. 2nd at the Bologna Motor Show in Italy. Can't wait...
  • exit123exit123 Posts: 136
    The 2010 Mazda3 will debut at the LA Auto Show, and it's a 4-door only! This is what I've been saying all along - they're dropping the 5-door model in the US. The pics you've been seeing of the 5-door are for Europe and other non-US markets where hatchbacks sell better.
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