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2010 Mazda3

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  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    What did they do with the engine temperature and fuel gauge that was on the 2009 model

    The fuel gauge is in the lower center of the gauge cluster. It is digital reading like this ( E----|----F). There is no more temperature gauge now, but there is a temp icon that looks like a funny looking sail boat that will light up if the engine is running hot.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Sorry guys, I have not had an opportunity to drive the 2010 Mazda3 just yet. Since it is end of month, I have been really busy (thank God!!!).

    I was playing around with the GT w/ tech that I have and was fiddling with the MID system. It's really useful for many reasons. First, it does more then show your various fuel economy readings, but, also gives you real-time maintenance updates for fluids and tires. The display is very vibrant and easy to read, even though the screen is far away and not very big.

    I like the idea of the nav system being small. Mazda really went after the Garmin type nav system with integration. There is no need for a 7 in nav screen, although they are nice. This makes nav more affordable, and is still pretty useful.

    I have spent some good time in the interior and I have noticed that Mazda has payed huge attention to detail. This interior is so much better then the first gen Mazda3. There are also a lot of soft touch materials, and the car just has a more solid, quality feel to it. I'm not saying that the first gen was not quality, but, the 2010 is just better.

    When you park a 2009 next to the 2010, the 2009 really looks dated.....I know, I know...I can't believe it either, considering that the 2009 still looked far more advanced then anything else out there.

    I also took notice that there are many personalization features that can be customized, just like the 2009 Mazda6.

    Anyway, Mazda is comming for training on Monday, as I said a few days ago. I'm eager to learn how this new Mazda3 works.
  • aviboy97

    Thank you for the information. I wonder if this was a cost cutting action. Cheaper to install a two gauge cluster instead of 3. A little disappointing.

    One last question. Can you tell me if the rear seats in the hatchback lay down completely flat like in the Honda Fit?

    Each of the 3 dealers here in the Austin, TX area received 4 2010 sedans this week.
    I plan to stop by for a look this weekend. I'll be waiting for the hatchback. Just seems like it has more functionality.
  • AVI - when should we be able to build one (2010) on mazdausa.com and check inventory online?
  • AVI - when should we be able to build one (2010) on mazdausa.com and check inventory online?

    You can build one on cars.com. They seem to be the first. Checked edmunds, kbb and carsdirect but they don't list the 2010 yet.
  • I had the opportunity to drive both the 09 and 10 Mazda 3 today. The wife says the difference is like comparing coach with first class. We both agreed the grill looks like a smiley face on the 10. However, the inside materials and ride quality were far superior on the 10. We're going to wait until April-May to check on the Honda Insight and compare with the civic and 3. Right now, I would have to say I'm leaning towards the 3. Nice car!
  • gamejo1gamejo1 Posts: 2
    I was wondering if the 3 was gonna have dual power seats? cuz in everything i've read, its given me mixed messages saying "power seats" but the pacage says 3-mem power drivers seat.
  • marsdog-

    Dealer is on eastern Long Island, NY. I'd be sure that other dealers in my area have them too, if he has them.
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    We both agreed the grill looks like a smiley face on the 10.

    Were I interested in one, I think it'd have to be black to hide that :D look a bit.
  • gwrace1gwrace1 Posts: 24
    We went to look at the newly arrived 2010 sedans that arrived this week. The wife instantly changed her mind and opted for a 2009 S Grand Touring Hatchback.

    We pick it up tonight. Best price we could get on a 2010 was 500 off MSRP with a custom order and a wait of 2-3 months.

    The 09 was loaded with every option/accessory accept for NAV. Walked off with $3000 off MSRP, $1000 cash back from Mazda and zero percent financing for 36 months and a potential tax credit for the sales tax.

    To good a deal to pass up and she's happy with the Copper Red Mica and Black Leather interior.
  • mazdazedmazdazed Posts: 34
    I did the same. After seeing the 2010 I decided to buy the 2009 S Sport Hatchback. I also got $3,000 off MSRP. The 2010 does not have an engine temperature gauge and I don't trust idiot lights. If there is a coolant leak or thermostat problem I would like to know when it is getting hot not when it is already hot. I also prefer the styling both in and out on the 09. So even with the refinements done on the 2010 I''ll take the 09. Enjoy!
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    "If there is a coolant leak or thermostat problem I would like to know when it is getting hot not when it is already hot."

    Sorry, but the temperature gauge on the 2009 Mazda3 will not be able to tell you that. Said another way, if it registers "Hot", it's already too late. Why? Because the needle will continue to point to the "Normal" position until a certain threshold has been reached, and then suddenly jump to the "Hot" position.

    I too prefer real temperature gauges, however, what passes for a "temperature gauge" in the era of OBD-II is what could best be described as an idiot needle. In other words, it essentially has three states, cold, normal, and overheated, and this applies to all cars with a gauge from all manufacturers, bar none.

    I'm not sure what it is about the OBD-II specifications that preclude manufacturers from putting a real temperature gauge in their cars, but I haven't driven a single car since the mid to late 1990s that had a real gauge, my Mazdas, Dodges, VWs and BMWs included.

    With all that said, I suppose an OBD-II style idiot needle is slightly more desirable compared to an idiot light, but not by much.

    Best regards,
    Shipo
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    Are you sure about VW? My wife's 2005.5 Jetta has actual temperatures shown on the guage and I think where it points does vary...unlike my Mazda6 which is always right in the middle as soon as it is barely warm enough to provide a little heat.

    I don't think it has anything to do with OBD II, I think the change to the "idiot needle" cam about because too many of us are idiots and would be concerned that the needle was pointing a bit toward the hot side, while still well below the red danger area.
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    Walked off with $3000 off MSRP, $1000 cash back from Mazda and zero percent financing for 36 months

    Does the $3000 off include the rebate or did you actually get $4000 off, after the rebate is considered?
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Am I 100% sure that all temperature gauge equipped cars with OBD-II have idiot needles? No. Am I 90% sure? Yes.

    Regarding your wife's Jetta, once the needle gets up to the "normal" spot, I'd be very surprised if it varies even a single degree (in travel not in temperature), regardless of what's actually happening under the hood.

    FWIW, I've owned a number of pre-OBD VWs and Audis, and the temperature gauges were very lively, even to the point of being able to tell exactly when the thermostat opened following a cold start. That said, my last VW (a Passat) had a temperature gauge that, once it moved to "normal", was deader than a doornail.

    Best regards,
    Shipo
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Hey Everyone-

    Mazda decided to come today for training, as opposed to yesterday because of the blizzard we had. So, here are my thoughts...

    Content:

    There is much more valuable features in the 2010 Mazda3 like DSC/ TSC on all Mazda3's from the i Touring on up. The MID on the "s" models is very useful and very easy to read. The GT trim has so much content, and the price stayed the same as an 09. The nav system is based off of an SD card, which is a lot easier to update, as well as maintain. The SD card system also makes updates and future modifications to the nav system much easier.

    I really like the adaptive front-lighting system. There is no car in this class that offers this, as well as bi-xenon headlights. The GT is really big bang for your buck.

    Interior:

    The interior materials and build quality are much better then the 09. It's probably one of the nicest interior I have ever seen. All controls are driver focused and easy to use. Even the nav controls on the steering wheel are easy to figure out, and only takes about 5 min to learn all the buttons on the steering wheel. They operate very similar to the outgoing model.

    The seats are more supportive and made out of higher quality material. Mazda also extended the seat bottom an extra inch for those of us with long legs (I'm 6'3", so, I love it!) and an extra inch on the seat back.

    Noise:

    Road noise has been drastically reduced! This car is quiet! For those of us who are familiar with the first gen, there is a lot of road noise, and bumps can easily be heard in the cabin. Mazda basically eliminated this. You can hardly even hear the engine going, unless the RPM's are high.

    Road feel:

    The car handles just as good as the 1st gen. The frame is stiffer by using 40% more high tensile steel then gen1. The suspension also has stiffer bushings, creating a stiffer ride, however, since the car rides so much more quiet, you cannot hear the car absorbing those bumps.

    Looks:

    Purely subjective. The photos do the car no justice. The car looks much better in person. I stopped at the Vitamine Shoppe today in the 2010 Mazda3 to pick up some supplements, and the sales guy came in to my store early this afternoon to take a closer look at it. He loved the front end. While the front end is controversial, it's not as bad in person as the pics. It is actually growing on me. I never thought that would happen, but, I'm starting to like it.

    The rest of the car is beautiful. The rear is really stylish.

    Overall:

    I really like this car. I am probably going to consider it to replace my Mazda6 with. I'm also really happy that the pricing is virtually the same. That's a big thing, considering our economy.

    This car will sell well. I really like it. The test drive is what really sold me. It really is much better then the 09. I didn't think that was possible, but, Mazda did it. They improved on perfection. Kudos.
  • Wow!!
    Excellent comments. Thanks so much for keeping us all updated.
    Can't wait to get my hands on my Grand Touring Hatchback!!
    Cheers,
    Susie
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Susie-

    I will let you know when you can expect to see them on dealer lots. Mazda has not shipped any just yet.
  • Thank you so much!!
    You're the best...wish you were closer so I could give you the sale :cry:
    Best,
    S
  • tgassetttgassett Posts: 20
    My local dealer has one (hatchback) in Liquid Silver. GT automatic. It is beautiful. It came in Friday night with the 4-door. Both look great.
  • mazdazedmazdazed Posts: 34
    So it sounds like the gauge works off a temperature switch like an idiot light and not an actual sending unit. Yes, I have noticed the sudden spikes that the temp gauge makes in my 09. My 2004 Dodge responds gradually like older vehicles. While it is a slight dissapointment I would still take the gauge over the warning light. According to Avi it sounds like the road noise is improved as compared to the 09. And I was hoping it was just the tires.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    While I won't claim that my 2009 Mazda3 i Touring is the quietest car in the world (not by a long shot), it did get noticable quieter when I yanked the crappy Goodyear Eagle RS-As at 714 miles and had Michelin Pilot Sport A/S tires mounted in their place.

    Best regards,
    Shipo
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    According to Avi it sounds like the road noise is improved as compared to the 09

    Improved is an understatement. The 2010 is near silent compared to gen1.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    While I won't claim that my 2009 Mazda3 i Touring is the quietest car in the world (not by a long shot), it did get noticable quieter when I yanked the crappy Goodyear Eagle RS-As at 714 miles and had Michelin Pilot Sport A/S tires mounted in their place.

    I'm in search of 17" tires to replace my Michelin Pilot's on my Mazda6. They are loud, and makes the ride a little to harsh for my tastes. The ride quality has greatly diminished since the tires have really begun to wear.
  • emily23emily23 Posts: 8
    IT'S COLOSSAL!!!!!!
    IT'S TREMENDOUS!!!!
    IT"S AS IF MAZDA HAS INVENTED THE CAR ALL OVER AGAIN!!!!!!
    I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT ONE!!!!!

    THE MODEL I LOOKED AT WAS 25.5K!!!!
    WHAT AN INCREDIBLE DEAL!!!!!!!

    NOT!!!!!!!!!!!
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    THE MODEL I LOOKED AT WAS 25.5K!!!!
    WHAT AN INCREDIBLE DEAL!!!!!!!

    NOT!!!!!!!!!!!


    We are all entitled to an opinion. No question about that. However, in reference to the $25,500 sticker you saw, name another car that has an MSRP of $25,500 that you can get the following in......

    167hp/168tq engine
    6-speed manual / 5-speed auto
    leather / variable heated seats / power driver seat w/memory
    keyless entry & push button start
    navigation
    Bluetooth 2.0 w/ Bluetooth audio
    bi-xenon hi and low beams
    adaptive rotating head lights
    TCS / DSC
    MID (fuel econ, real time maintainence update)
    17" allow wheels
    Bose s
    surround sound w/ 10 speakers
    moon roof
    antitheft alarm
    .....just to list a few features.....

    ....most importantly, you get more equipment then a 2009 GT w/nav for $300 LESS!!!!!

    Now, if you are penny wise, then buy an 09 because of the aggressive Mazda support.
  • This might seem like a silly question, but is there anhors in the back of the hatchback model that could be used to anchor down a cat carrier? I am looking to buy a couple of carriers for my cats that allow me to tether them to the vechile (much safer for them in an accident) but am wondering if hte mazda 3 has availble anchors for this? Maybe I could use the LATCH? Do you think it's accessible from the back of the hatch?
  • mz6greyghostmz6greyghost Posts: 1,230
    That's not a silly question at all. I don't know about any anchors or tie-downs (aviboy should have an answer for that), but have you tried placing the carriers behind the front seats on the floor, using both the front and rear seat to hold it in place? I do this all the time with my cats, and they've never moved...
  • manybmwsmanybmws Posts: 347
    I agree, changing the crappy Goodyear tires on the car will help a lot since the tires are the source of most of the noise IMO on our 2009 Mazda3 i Touring VE. I changed the Michelin Precadas to Michelin Exaltos on my MX-5 at 17K miles and saw a huge improvement in road noise and handling in wet and dry conditions. Mazda has to get their act together and provide OEM tires that aren't a POS.

    But the front wheel wells obviously needs some sound deadening material as well since you can hear sand off the roads hitting the wheel wells inside the car. Maybe some undercoating would help this.

    Does anyone know what the tires on the 17" wheels are on the 2010s?
  • manybmwsmanybmws Posts: 347
    BTW - 2010s are showing up at dealers in the Boston area this week.
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