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Pontiac Montana

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  • michgndrmichgndr Posts: 160
    I now notice a humming sound coming from the front of my Montana. It's audible in front of the driver's seat, and can also be heard from outside when the vehicle is at idle. Doesn't seem to change intensity or frequency as the vehicle speed changes. The Montana is a '97. Almost sounds like it's coming from the area of the brake system.

    Any thoughts?
  • dlubindlubin Posts: 66
    Just about to pick up our new 'family truckster' - a 2001 Montana with Montanavision, and was wondering if you can add a TV tuner to the system. Also, what have you used to play DVD's? Is there a player that can be mounted under and wired into the VCP?

    -Dan
  • dfairdfair Posts: 2
    We are looking at purchasing a 2001 Montana with the 1SG package (sporting package w/o Montanavision). On Pontiac's website, at Edmund's, at Kelly Blue Book, at the display at the dealer, etc: - it says that after Jan. 01, the driver's side power sliding door is STANDARD with the 1SG package. Fine. Yet, when you actually go out and look at the sticker on these vehicles, you find two types of Montana's with the 1SG package:

    1) No power driver's side door at all (does this mean that this vehicle has been sitting here since before 01/01?)

    2) It has a power driver's side door, but it isn't listed as standard w/ the 1SG package, it's listed as a $350 option.

    I don't understand the discrepancy between Pontiac's own information and the actual window stickers. Is it likely I could argue my way out of the additional $350 for an alleged "standard" feature?

    Finally (sorry 'bout the long length): a second question. I'm having a little trouble finding a local dealer with exactly what I want - I found one that has exactly what I want, except it also has the $165 towing package. What exactly is in this towing package and is it a big deal to get a Montana w/it and never use it?
  • dlubindlubin Posts: 66
    We're picking up our 1SJ tomorrow, and in our search have only seen 1 or 2 vans with dual power doors. Dual power doors was supposed to be (like the 3rd row folding bench) a midyear production change.

    The specifications (according to the brochure and website I see) list a sliding drivers door, but not power. Power drivers door is even optional on the silhouette premier - so I'd expect it to be on the Montana as well (even 1sG/J)

    Regarding the tow package - I wish I had it, but keep in mind that production has stopped on Montanas - availability is limited to whats in the field. The package provides the wiring harness, and (why I wanted it) heavy-duty oil and transmission coolers - no trailer hitch. I think it may help with reliability if you intend to keep the vehicle a while (which I do).

    Hope this helps,

    -Dan
  • dfairdfair Posts: 2
    That helps a lot! Another weird thing is the one dealer seems to only have "older" 2001's as compared to this other dealer (maybe after the production change). For the exact same vans, they have a different "Standard Vehicle Price" on the window sticker: $29,800 for the 1SG vs. $29,580 for the EXACT same thing - this is before any other options or the destination charge is added. They also have a $10 difference on the destination charge.
  • montanafanmontanafan Posts: 945
    The driver's side power sliding door was going to be ready for January production and included in the 1SG and 1SJ packages. When it was not ready until April production, Pontiac dropped it from the 1SG/1SJ packages and became a option on any package except 1SC for $350.
    The difference in window sticker prices is because of price increases throughout the year. 10/20/00 $10 Destination. 1/26/01 $115 base price. 3/2/01 $105 base price.
  • stukesmdstukesmd Posts: 1
    My'99 with 54,000 miles developed a tapping noise in the engine after a cold start. It disappears after about two minutes. I took it to the dealer and was given two technical service bulletins on this condition (57-71-06A and 57-61-24A). GI's explanation is that "under normal design tolerances, when the piston pin bore is produced at the maximum tolerance and the piston pin is produced at the minimum tolerance (min-max tolerance) trace noise levels can occur. This level of noise does not affect the reliability or durability of the product." The dealer told me there was no guarantee that if these parts were replaced that the noise would disappear and also that since my van was out of warranty the fix would be at my expense. I am learning to live with it.
  • edinmdedinmd Posts: 1
    I'm considering buying a 2002 Montana and have never owned a minivan before. Does anyone know how the safety ratings are on the 2002 model or if they will be improved over the 2001 model?
  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    So far it looks like the only major change to the '02 GM minivans is the availability of (optional) AWD. Structurally they will remain the same and as such, the NHTSA and IIHS offset crash test results should still apply. FYI, the GM minivans used to be sold in Europe as the Opel Sintra:


    Here are a few links for you to look at:
    http://www.hwysafety.org/vehicle_ratings/ce/html/96026.htm

    http://www.hwysafety.org/vehicle_ratings/ce/html/summary_passvans.htm

    http://www.fia.com/tourisme/Ncap6/OPEL_Sintra/OPEL_SINTRA.html

    http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/ncap/cars/1566.html


    Curious as to how the NHTSA full width test differs from the IIHS offset crash test? Have a look at these links:
    http://www.hwysafety.org/vehicle_ratings/ce/offset.htm

    http://www.hwysafety.org/vehicle_ratings/ce/def.htm

    http://www.crashtest.com/explanations/nhtsa/usncap.htm

    "Full-width and offset tests complement each other. Crashing the full width of a vehicle into a rigid barrier maximizes energy absorption so that the integrity of the occupant compartment, or safety cage, can be maintained well in all but very high-speed crashes. Full-width rigid-barrier tests produce high occupant compartment decelerations, so they're especially demanding of restraint systems. In offset tests, only one side of a vehicle's front end, not the full width, hits the barrier so that a smaller area of the structure must manage the crash energy. This means the front end on the struck side crushes more than in a full-width test, and intrusion into the occupant compartment is more likely. The bottom line is that full-width tests are especially demanding of restraints but less demanding of structure, while the reverse is true in offsets".

    Hope this helps!

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  • bprice4bprice4 Posts: 3
    When driving my 2000 Montana I can hear water sloshing around somewhere in the back and it is not the gas tank. Dont know if its in the sliding doors or somewhere else. Have not taken it to the dealer yet. Anyone else have this problem?
  • offhamoffham Posts: 344
    Re your post. Across the three GM van sites, it has been reported that water can get into the rear wells, especially where the jack is located.

    This water enters through the plastic boots on top of the rear edge when you lift the hatch. It requires to put clear silicone sealant around the rubber boot.

    However, it is unlikely that you would hear it, and suspect it is gas in the tank, especially when it is full and gradually subsides as the gas volume goes down.

    Try testing at different levels, and especially if you have to brake hard with a full tank you can hear it. Have a Venture 2000 and noted similar circumstances.
  • mizeumlmizeuml Posts: 50
    We have a 1999 Montana with the rear A/C unit located inside the left rear quarter panel. There is a drain hole for this unit just behind the left rear tire. This drain hole is formed into the sheet metal body panel and was sealed shut on our van with caulking. I removed the caulking from this drain hole and about a gallon of water drained from it. If your van has the rear A/C, check behind the left rear tire and see if this drain is open or if it has been sealed shut. The drain is oval shaped and is about 1/4" by 1/2" or so. You should be able to see water draining from it when the rear A/C is running. I found our problem by crawling under the left rear of the van and pulling the rubber grommet out of this quarter panel. The grommet is around an electrical harness that goes into the quarter panel. When I pulled the grommet out, water started coming from the grommet hole. I then located the drain hole and used a screw driver to dig the caulking out. Everything has been fine since.

    Good luck,
    Matt
  • rgarryrgarry Posts: 1
    I just purchased a 2001 Montana and with 750 miles on it the motor for the fan went. Was wondering if anyone else has had like problems.
    Thanks
  • jmurawskjmurawsk Posts: 1
    On my 2000 Montana I have the door ajar light staying lit. It goes on and off while driving down the road and sometimes it just stays on.. I was wondering if anyone else had the same problem it is driving me crazy. I brought it to the dealer and they already changed the drivers side sensor to no avail. Thanks in advance..
  • tauberjtauberj Posts: 61
    Bill, I have a 2000 Silhouette which had the same problem. It turns out the water was in the bottom of the jack well (right-rear fender). Since the water in my jack well had a lot of silt in it, I determined that the water was leaking from the seam on the inner-wheel well behind the right-rear tire. I gave this info to the dealer who corrected the problem by sealing the seam with black silicone sealer. They also sealed it from inside the jack well.

    To determine where your leak is coming from, check to see if there is silt in the bottom of the jack well. If yes, then the seam i described. If no, then the wire harness boots at the top of the hatch opening (inside) are suspect. Good luck.
  • todobomtodobom Posts: 4
    I'm getting ready to replace the original equipment tires on my 2000 Montana and hope somebody out there has some real life words of wisdom. My van has the sport suspension that included self sealing "General" tires as part of the option. I'm not convinced I need to purchase replacement tires with the "self-sealing" option. What's been your experience? Thanks in advance!!
  • I have been in the market to purchase a 2001 Pontiac Montana with G package, 7 pass rear stowable seat, pwr driver side door, trailer package, cloth trim and 6 CD changer since February. I searched on Buy Power and at several South Florida dealers. I (nor the dealers) have never been able to find one. I guess now it will have to be a 2002. Does anyone know what differences there will be. I see from these messages AWD will be added. I heard elsewhere 16 inch wheels will be standard. Is there any other rumors that would make the wait more bearable?

    John
  • montanafanmontanafan Posts: 945
    2002 Montana will not have the 7 passenger with rear stowable seat. Only seats will be the 7 passenger with split fold rear and 8 passenger with rear stowable seat. The AWD will add over $3,000 to the price. It was $2,700 I think addition to the Aztek which uses the same system. The 16" wheels will only be with the AWD or the Thunder Package (Leather Trim). With the rebates or low rates offered on the 2001, I would consider slightly changing my requirements ( w/o LH Power Door or 7 Pass w/Folding Seat). If nothing works that way, I would try to run up my rebates on my GM card and go for the 2002 that best fits your needs. Good luck.
  • mmayermmayer Posts: 2
    I just bought a new 2001 Montana. When I got home I realized there was no valet key. Did CM do away with it, or did my dealer forget to give it to me??

    Thanks!
  • montanafanmontanafan Posts: 945
    When my brother picked up his 2001, he was told because of the cost of the valet key with the passkey theft deterrent chip and the fact that valet keys haven't reduced the usage of the no charge road side assistance, GM has done away with them.
  • kenx4kenx4 Posts: 1
    I have a 99' Montana and an alarm sounds from the rear of the vehicle whenever I take it out of park. I can stop the alarm if I take the automatic door off of automatic and make it manual. The automatic door "seems" to shut completely and sometimes the auto door just tries to close but then pops back open again...Has anyone else had this problem and please tell me it's a simple fix.... Thnxs in advance..we love the vehicle
  • gregathygregathy Posts: 3
    I had the same problem with my Silhoutte. On the side of the automatic door and side of the van there is a little plate, take a cloth and rub it off. You should do this periodically because it gets dirty and the connection won't take. Hopes this helps.
  • fkatufkatu Posts: 3
    I am thinking of buying a 2001 Montana with two weeks...I need a car. I haven't read all that much here about people really enthused about it.
    Could I get a quick show of thumbs up or thums down on this vehicle.You can email at FKatu@aol.com so not to clog this forum up
    thanks
    Frank
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,805
    Hmmm, so you're cross-shopping the Montana vs the Santa Fe? Probably better if folks just chime in here so we can all keep score :-)

    fkatu "Hyundai Santa Fe" Jul 19, 2001 6:44pm

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  • yzfyzf Posts: 65
    Railroadcpa:

    Given the news from Montanafan, I'd go with the 2001. Sounds like GM is restricting the possible seating configurations for the 2002 and grouping other options together. If you really need the LH power door, consider getting an Olds Silo or Chevy Venture. Essentially the same cars as the Montana. In fact, my wife and I were all but ready to put down money on a Montana when we realized that the Olds looked pretty darned good too. In fact, we ended up getting a 2001 Olds because it was EASY to find one with the LH powerdoor and all the features we wanted (tow package, SJ option cluster, LH powerdoor, seven seat w/ fold flat third row and leather).

    In addition to the same features as the Montana we were looking for (but never found), we got THREE zone climate control and a bumper-to-bumper warranty for 5 years/60K miles (whichever comes first) vs. the typical 3yr/30K warranty. Our Olds dealer told us that GM was doing this to reassure Olds customers that even with the demise of the brand name in two to three years, GM will still stand by its vehicles (not that it had much choice under current federal law anyway!). These extra perks plus the features we wanted convinced us we got the right GM van.

    Price and financing were also factors. We got our Olds for $200 over invoice, got the dealer to through in a rear class II hitch and wiring for FREE and went with the 0.9% financing. The money we would have put down on the van is now earning MORE money in a savings account than if we had put it into the van.

    So check out the Montana's twin vehicles. You might be pleasantly surprised.
  • yzfyzf Posts: 65
    Frank:

    My wife and I have the 2001 Olds Silo - twin car to the Montana and the Chevy Venture. We love the minivan. BIG thumbs up (of course, I've always been a big GM fan - just plain like their cars - no, don't work for them). My prior post talks about some of the great features we like.

    As for which is better, Montana vs. Santa Fe, I think you are really comparing two vehicles with different purposes. The Montana is a people/pet hauler and sometimes cargo hauler. It can tow light loads (max 3500lbs) with the appropriate package (oil cooler, trans cooler, etc.), but really is meant to haul people/pets on public roads in comfort. The Santa Fe is an SUV built to haul fewer people but to be more rugged (i.e., capable of off-road operation). It's probably geared more for singles, couples or those with only one kid/pet and not too much baggage. I understand it can also tow light loads. So as far as which is better, I would guess you would need to look at what you need in terms of carrying/hauling capacity over the type of terrain you will be in. Whichever vehicle you decide, best of luck!
  • Re message No. 460 and follow ups. Thanks all for your help. My 2001 Montana had water leaking into the jack well area and the carpet around that area also got wet every time I washed the van.
    After two attempts the dealer has yet to solve the leak. I took your suggestions and sealed the boot at the top of the tailgate. Hopefully, that will fix the problem. I'll keep you posted if that doesn't work. Keep up the good work. I really like this van. On a recent 400 mile trip, it almost got 26 MPG.
  • 3darcher3darcher Posts: 2
    Is it possible to buy another captain's chair for the middle row in the 6 passenger Value Van and make it 7 passenger, whether at a junkyard or dealer? This vehicle has all the features I need and room for now, but I am just looking down the road. Anyone who has compared, is the suspension here the same as the Venture "Soft Ride Suspension"? Thanks in advance.
  • ftpftp Posts: 16
    Does anyone know how to program a replacement key less remote for a '96 Transport? I know the dealer will do it for a fee ($35.00 in sunny FL), but I was hoping to find the secret out from a knowledgeable friend.
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