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  • cigsmhcigsmh Posts: 16
    I have posted previous message about vibration.
    This weekend I have replaced all 4 tires for the new Michelin destiny.
    Now the minivan rides as a dream. I could not believe that tires can make so big difference.
    I started to like this minivan.
  • I purchased a 1997 Montana EXT in 1998. This vehicle is loaded and everything is still working after 146,000 kms (88,000 mi) This has been one great van.

    It has excellent traction in these Canadian winters. I also have experienced the occasional smell of anti-freeze/coolant in the winter but have learned to ignore it. Seems to come from the heater core.

    There is nothing I don't like about this vehicle.

    I will buy another
  • baveuxbaveux Posts: 175
    I own a Montana 2002 and so since over a year. Not one single problem, never returned to the garage with it.

    One thing bother me , the rear washer, that nozzle spray not even above the wiper blade, it is virtually impossible for me to wash my rear window with it, it is the same with you ?

    I waste lots of windshield washer fluid if I want to have the window really clean, if I can !
  • bcd99bcd99 Posts: 45
    I have the same problem with my 2001 Silo. Forgot to mention it to the dealer when I had it in last time for replacement of the rear door shocks. They didn't lift the door in cold weather, new ones are not much better. Everything else is good though, no gasket leak, yet.
  • We have a 99 Montana. Everything works great and we enjoy this van a lot. We have one bug that the dealer has been unable to solve. From time to time, the driver's door will lock all by itself. None of the other doors will lock. It often happens in our garage, but in other places as well.

    Has anyone else had this problem, and if so, how was it solved.

    Thanks in advance,

    Bob
  • kkollwitzkkollwitz Posts: 268
    My Venture doesn't do this, but my Firebird used to when either the weather was very damp or some rain actually got on the switch.
  • jeberjeber Posts: 91
    the first couple weeks we had our '01 silo that happened a couple times...van mysteriously locked itself. After it happened to my wife, I didn't believe her, but I went to the store a couple days later, 100% sure door wasn't locked when I ran in, came back out & sure enough, it was locked. Odd. That was several months back, hasn't happened since (?) I got one of those magnetic key holders and put it in a hidden spot under van but haven't needed it (I'm sure we won't need it until I'm in slush or mud, lol)
  • Sometimes the fob in your pocket/purse will get one of the buttons pushed by some other key and it will set off the locking mech., although that's usually all doors.

    DD
  • cigsmhcigsmh Posts: 16
    This morning I have notices that my windshield washer arms stop in vertical position on both sides of the windshield when. I have tried to move them to the right position manually, but after certain point they resist and return back.
    Just though may be somebody had something similar.
    Is that possible that it happened because of cold?
  • Hi,new to board, great info here. I too was told I have an intake manifold leaking coolant. Local mechanic said 7 hours labor. Is that about right? It looks like a big job to me. Anybody else have this problem? Also, rear window wiper motor needs to be replaced again, 2nd one in two years.Anyone else have this problem? Thanks, Ray
  • balichbalich Posts: 62
    I got a '97 Pontiac Transport with 63k miles .. has anyone noticed a loud fuel pump - loud as in
    loud hum/buzz noise coming from the back of the van.

    It been getting increasingly louder ... anybody
    else experience this ?

    THANKS IN ADVANCE!
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,630
    I'm no mechanic but it sure sounds like the pump is dying.

    Steve, Host

    Moderator
    Minivan fan. Feel free to message or email me - stever@edmunds.com.

  • pmk63366pmk63366 Posts: 5
    Recently 2000 Montana seems to lose power steering when I turn to the LEFT. Only the left. Dealer can't get me in for a few weeks? Anyone else experience this, if so, what was the problem?
    thanks.
  • montanafanmontanafan Posts: 945
    Steering is a safety issue. If your dealer can't get you in for that long, call another. Or even a Chevrolet or Oldsmobile dealer, as their vans are the same. Can't remember seeing anyone post this problem, and my brothers (1997&2001) haven't had anything like it. Get it checked out and post back any info.
  • balichbalich Posts: 62
    My wife transport is in the shop for a recall ..
    I don't have the notice since we had to give it
    to dealer but it had to do with turning left and
    losing power .. I really think you should find out if this is symptoms of the recall .. we got
    ours in the mail approx. 1 month ago.

    I remember reading that symptoms are when turning left you lose power thus the recall .. Call Pontiac to confirm the recall ...
  • balichbalich Posts: 62
    General Motors to recall 1.5 million vehicles

    Friday November 15 9:15 AM EST

     
     
    Detroit, Michigan - General Motors is recalling about 1.5 million model year 1996-00 Chevrolet Cavalier and Pontiac Sunfire cars, Chevrolet Lumina/Venture, Oldsmobile Silhouette, and Pontiac Transport minivans, and Pontiac Grand Prix cars to repair a lower pinion bearing condition in the power steering gear assembly. Of the total, about 240,000 are in Canada and 1.2 million of them are in the U.S. The vehicles were built between January 1, 1996 and October 31,

    In some of these vehicles, the lower pinion bearing in the power steering gear may separate, permitting movement of the pinion shaft. Most reports indicate the driver experienced an intermittent loss of power steering assist when making left turns, usually at low speeds. If the pinion shaft moves too far, some drivers could experience higher resistance when turning left followed by unintended power assist to the right. There have been 15 reports of crashes and three injuries that may be related to the condition, but no fatal injuries.

    Beginning in January, GM will notify owners of the affected vehicles, instructing them to bring them into their Chevrolet, Oldsmobile, and Pontiac dealers. Dealers will install a new lower pinion bearing or, if necessary, replace the steering gear assembly. These repairs will be performed at no cost to the customers.
  • pmk63366pmk63366 Posts: 5
    Balich--Thank you Thank you Thank You--I called dealer and they are getting me in Monday.
    If you could get any more info on the recall, I would appreciate it, they are still telling me my vehicle is not affected. Obviously it is. Again, thanks for the great help.
  • montanafanmontanafan Posts: 945
    Actually your info is incorrect years are 1996-1998.
    http://media.gm.com/news/releases/021114_recall.html so pmk63366's Montana is not covered.
  • pmk63366pmk63366 Posts: 5
    I have sent an email to the names on the lower pinion bulletin, I will advise of my reply from GM once I receive it. Thanks for the info.
  • montanafanmontanafan Posts: 945
    The email addresses are for PR people. That is a press release / media site. Thay are not technical people. Your van is not covered, it is a 2000 you posted. Recall is for 1996 (old style) and 1997 & (some) 1998 (new style) vans.
  • pmk63366pmk63366 Posts: 5
    So if my van is truly not in the recall, Am I just stuck for the repair bill? It would seem that this is a known problem for this type of vehicle. Any suggestions?
  • montanafanmontanafan Posts: 945
    Simple answer--yes. You didn't post where you stand in regards to the 36/36 warranty, but I have to assume you are over time or mileage.

    First, you have to wait until monday to have the cause figured out. It may not even be simular to the recall.

    My brother's 1997 is involved in the recall, so we have some info. Before the recall came out, the steering racks would have to be replaced if the bearing failed. For the recall GM came up with replacement parts, new tools, and a service procedure to replace the bearing. So, if your problem IS the same, the cost will be much less then it would have been a couple months ago. My brothers repair order showed something like $7 for parts and around 2+ hours labor.

    So you will have to wait and see, and then see if the dealer can get any assistance in the repair cost from Pontiac. And whatever happens save the orig copy of the RO, proof of payment, and copy of your reg to prove ownership. These are the things that would be required for reimbursement if a recall ever happens that includes your year. Post back and keep the board updated.
  • denjonesdenjones Posts: 7
    I just purchased a 2000 Montana from a local dealer who promised the vehicle had been GM certified. We picked it up Saturday afternoon and the heater blower quit after about 30 minutes. Monday morning I took the vehicle in and they replaced the blower. Wednesday I took the van in again because the heater temperature would drop when coming to a stop. They said there was a leak in the intake manifold and fixed that problem. Saturday on my way to work I believe the same problem existed with the heater temperature dropping when coming to an idle. At lunch I noticed a hose to the thermostat had fallen off and antifreeze was leaking. They put the hose back on and refilled the fluids but it seems like when I come to a stop the temperature blowing from the heater isn't a warm as when I'm driving. Is that normal or should I be alarmed?

    Thanks in advance.

    Denny
  • #1 of 2 Key stuck in Montana ignition by carrottop Mar 05, 2003 (12:28 pm)
    Has this happened to anyone else? It I tilt the steering wheel up before shutting off the ignition, the key will often be impossible to pull out. This only seems to happen if the tilt is anywhere but fully down. I need to start the car again, sometimes move the gear shift and move the tilt down in order to get the key out - sometimes having to do this several times. Very frustrating. I don't think this is isolated to Montana as this happened when I drove my mother's LeSabre. I find if I leave the tilt down I can get the key out without a problem but once it happens, I have to do lots of shenanigans to retrieve my key. The dealer couldn't figure it out and just lubricated the ignition.
  • balichbalich Posts: 62
    Not to bad mouth GM or anything .. These Montana's/Transport are cheaply made and are
    priced accordingly .. When you buy a GM - you
    are basically getting for what you paid for ...

    You probably purchased this minivan because it
    was inexpensive for the model year compared to
    a Foreign competitor ..

    I know alot of you will dispute this but folks
    YOU GET FOR WHAT YOU PAY FOR.

    I own a Montana and its a cheaply made vehicle ...
    and all Montana owners have problems as you
    can witness .. you have two options pay the piper
    or trade it in for a better quality vehicle ...

    I had a hard time coming to peace with this but
    I now truely believe it .. Hope this helps ..
  • montanafanmontanafan Posts: 945
    I know this one, have brothers with 1997 and 2001 Montanas. At idle, the water flow through the heater is reduced and the temps go down. In 2000 GM added an additional coolant pump (electric I think) to the vans to increase flow at idle. You should be able to see this unit on your heater hoses under the hood. It is possbile this unit isn't working. (Assuming enough coolant, no air bubbles, temp doors in dash ok, and heater core not clogged.) It is also possible that you might be too sensitive to the temp difference.
  • denjonesdenjones Posts: 7
    Montanafan,

    Thanks for the reply. I couldn't locate the additional coolant pump you were referring to but today my wife got roasted out when I ran the heater during some errands. I may be too sensitive to the condition. I tend to run on the cold side and wish for 75º even in the dead of winter! Ask me why I live in Michigan?!!??! I've left the same question with The Car Show which airs on WJR in Detroit. I'll post their reply.

    Thanks again.

    Denny
  • montanafanmontanafan Posts: 945
    Know where you are at. My wife and I inhabit two different tempature zones also.
  • rbb2rbb2 Posts: 70
    "I own a Montana and its a cheaply made vehicle ...and all Montana owners have problems as you can witness"

    That's a pretty bold statement that all Montana owners have problems. You must assume every owner posts here and has problems. I would argue that.

    I have a 2001 Montana with 30,000 miles on it and have had only a few issues addressed and both were related to rattles that the dealer fixed. Other than that it has been a good vehicle for our family.
  • denjonesdenjones Posts: 7
    Here's the reply I received directly from Pontiac. FYI.

    Thank you for contacting the Customer Assistance Center regarding your newly purchased 2000 Pontiac Montana. We are sorry that you are experiencing concerns with your vehicles cooling system.

    We have contacted the service manager at Jim Waldron on your behalf. The dealer states that some variation in the temperature is normal upon coming to a stop. We may suggest that you check the coolant levels in your vehicle to ensure that the coolant is not low. If you are still experiencing a concern, you should refer to your dealership to have your vehicle inspected. We apologize for any inconvenience that this may cause you.

    If you should need to contact us in the future, simply reply to this message or call our Pontiac Customer Assistance Center at 1-800-762-2737. Customer Relationship Managers are available Monday through Friday from 8:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m., Eastern Time.

    I guess it's normal and I may be too sensitive to the change in temperature.

    Thanks for listening.

    Denny
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