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Pontiac Montana

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  • gatorgator Posts: 11
    Ventureman,

    Not sure about a delay feature, how so? You can disable the power feature from the front seat, and it kicks back quicker should it hit an obstruction but I don't know of a delay feature. I'll have to read the manual to see.
  • Purchased a 98 Montana 1 1/2 weeks ago. After about 6 months of research online and reading all I could get my hands on - I was ready to go. Paid $600 over invoice. They tried to sell me the farm but I stuck to my guns - the trick is to read all the information you can on the internet - remember dealer holdback, advertising, etc - I brought all the information out up front and there was no BS right from the start.

    We love the vehicle. It has all the bells and whistles - power door, leather, tow package, dual AC, etc, etc, etc. 3.4L engine was the largest 98 van I was able to find to pull my boat. I needed something big enough to pull the boat, but at the same time also wanted something that looked good. There are too many Dodge and Plymouth's out there, and the biggest engine offered was a 3.0L.

    We wanted the 7 passenger captain chair seating and that seemed to be the difficult part - finding one with that seating arrangement. I did notice however that the mounting of the seats on the vehicle looks like it could accommodate all the different seating arrangements. So - if the dealer wanted to bad enough - they could order the buckets and pull the modular bench out to satisfy my bucket requirement - if they really wanted to sell me the vehicle that I wanted.

    Now, for my list of defects:


    1. Left rear bucket seat - one of the locking clips which locks the seat to the floor was not put together correctly at the factory - which did not allow the seat to fully lock into place.

    2. Left rear modular bench seat locking pin was broken off which did not allow the seat to fully lock into place in the floor.

    3. Several scuffs and scratches on the running boards - apparently when the vehicle was built or the dealer did the prep - they dropped the seat and scratched the plastic.

    4. The big rubber weather strip on the passenger side door - is only glued to the inside of the door - mine was not properly aligned on the door and was pulled off half way, upon delivery. Don't know if this will become a problem down the road if the stickum looses it's stick.

    Took the vehicle back to the dealer today - they said they would fix everything - we'll see how that goes.

    As far as anything else about the vehicle goes:

    Changing the oil is going to be a blast - I can see the oil filter from up above - but have no idea how I am going to get it out from below.

    Hopefully I won't have to change the battery - it looks like you have to pull half the engine compartment apart just to get at it.

    Spark plugs - don't even know where the 3 in the back are located - I'll let Pontiac figure that one out when the time comes. They say they are 100,000 mile plugs.

    Other than those minor issues - we love the van. I pulled all the seats out and did my own scotch guard - 2 cans from WalMart at $5.49/can - much cheaper than the $100 they wanted at the dealer - probably for the same stuff.

    Planning our first trip this week - I let everyone know how it handles during our 16 hour drive back home.

    If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
  • The scoop in the spark plugs is that you have the remove the rear motor mount bolts and use a jack underneath to swivil the engine to get at the plugs.

    Let me know your opinion of the noise level and if you hear any rattling from the cladding on the outside of the van. I'm considering the Pontiac or the Chevy.

    Best of luck,

    VentureMAn
  • Haven't heard any rattling from the cladding on the outside of the van - guess I'll be listening for it now and let you know.
  • Total Transsports sold for the 1998 model year is 58,155. Total U.S. GM minivan sales for 1998 model year is 193,522.

    VentureMan
  • scannerscanner Posts: 295
    VentureMan,

    Where did you find your sales figure data?

    Thanks
  • GM 1998 Model Year Sales Figures:

    href="http://www.gm.com/mo_pr/mo_pr_dt.htm?id=478"

    Hope this helps.

    VentureMan
  • ChanesChanes Posts: 1
    Okay, is there much difference between the 98 and 99 versions. Either in price or features??

    My wife and I just started looking last week, and I said I would never get a minivan, but the Montana/Transport is pretty "cool" looking!!
  • Well, As best I can figure, for 1999, Pontiac got rid of the wimpy name "TransSport" and replaced it with the rugged "Montana" name (not that this is a good reason to buy, but the '99 won't get mixed up with the ill famed TransSport name when you go to sale you car later on).

    They also added Sport blue-tinted power "heated" mirrors w/fold & stow feature. Also, you get an extra 5 HP (now 185 HP) and an extra 5 pounds of torque. I will tell you though, my friends '97 Chevy Venture minivan (same as Pontiac) moves uphill without a hitch.

    The price is the same for 1999 as far as I figure.
    I am still trying to figure if I want the Montana over the Venture (the former costing about $600 more). Otherwise, it is a styling issue.

    Best of luck,

    VentureMan
  • I forgot one other new feature. There are also three new color choices for the 1999 Montana. Can't wait to see them.

    Best of luck,

    VentureMan
  • I read that the 99 Montana has a second generation power door. I hope this means that the door is a little more sensitive when something is in its path. I read that the current power door gives you quite a jolt before retracting, went to the dealer and got in the way of the door and it almost knocked me down before retracting. This concerns me as to what kind of damage this door could do to my 15 month old if her leg or arm got in the way. Any comments on this matter ?
  • I would think the best way to answer this question is to put you arm in the way and let the door close on it and see how much it hurts. I put a item made of paper in the way and it didn't seem to compress it much before retracting. I guess I will have to try this.

    Also, if you find out what this second generation door is, please share it. I've been wondering for some time myself.

    Best of luck.

    VentureMan
  • gatorgator Posts: 11
    Well, I would think that the pressure from the power door would be less than if you slammed a manual slider on somebody's arm or leg. Exercising a little caution when operating the door is a great trade-off for the cool utility of the power door. BTW, took my 99 to the steeplechase last weekend and it was a hoot to stand about 30 feet away from the van and use the power slider feature on the key fob to confound the various drunks walking past the van. Great fun.
  • Has anyone noticed an unusual manufacturing technique on the 99 montana where a material that appears to be tape of some sort is used extensively around that rear hatch opening? It is also used along the edge of the bottom of the front door frame. It is painted the same color as the body, But you can easily tell it is tape. I may be putting a deposit on this car tomorrow and I'd really appreciate anyone who has some info on this sharing it with me!
  • Is it tape, as in cheap tape? Or is it a strong metal ribbon tape? I'm sure it is fine. Probably a tighter seal than using a rebber plug. Let us know how you new van is.

    Best of luck,

    VentureMan
  • I am purchasing a 98 Transport in a couple days and to prepare I have read the entire thread of this group, among other things. I can say I feel better informed. Although I am from Canada, all your insights are useful. Thank you to everyone for sharing your personal stories, especially the people who shared progress reports.

    ptCA
  • I haven't had a chance to look at any of the 1999
    Pontiac Montanas yet. There were two dealerships
    in my area (San Francisco Bay Area) last year and
    now they have closed up shop. Has GM been
    consolidating franchises?

    I am very interested in the Montana, but I am
    worried about logistics if the need came up for
    servicing by a dealership. I cant very well
    travel 45-60 minutes each way to a dealership.

    Has anyone ever heard of a Chevy dealer performing
    warranty work for a Pontiac?

    Thanks for any help.
    VentureMan
  • After reading through 144 messages re: the Pontiac Tran Sport/Montana, I am considering a 1999 Montana. I would be interested in hearing any comments about the "Traction Control" in winter conditions.

    I am leaning toward an AWD minivan from Chrysler, but I would like to hear comparisons with "Traction Control".
  • gatorgator Posts: 11
    I have 1000 miles on my 99 so far and so far so good. No defects or problems have reared their heads and a few neat features have been discovered. The headlights are automatic, the interior lights all come on when you remove the key for ease of egress and gathering all your stuff without having to open the door first, the interior lights fade out when all the doors are closed, and after 10 minutes or so the interior lights shut themselves off if a door is left ajar to save the battery. I am also pleased with the range of the 25 gallon gas tank(even around town). Recently removed all the rear seats and loaded the thing with lumber and plywood to finish a deck and it swallowed everything with aplomb (I have the extended version which I highly recommend). I also recommend getting the eight seat configuration, you can always take one out to make an aisle. Power slider continues to be a crowd-pleaser. All in all still extremely pleased with the van. We'll see how it goes as the miles start to rack up.
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