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Saab 900 / 9000

mznmzn Posts: 727
edited March 23 in Saab
I'm relocating this question from the "What do you
like about hatchbacks?" topic to keep us on track.

There must be some Saab hatchback drivers out
there who can come to the rescue!

Planet is asking:

What can anyone tell me about the saab 9000. I
want one if the price is right but don't know much
about them. Would their owners keep buy another
one?
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  • lxvlxv Posts: 1
    I drive '97 2dr Saab 900 SE with manual. I'm not sure about the number of 0s in your question. About 900: saab's motto "should the family chauffeur have some fun too" is the exact description of this car. The car is priced about $25k (if you're lucky) loaded (no options except automatic transmission and CD changer and you have everything you can imagine (one cupholder though)), fast and roomy. There are new models coming -- 9-5 and 9-3 to replace 9000 and 900 respectively. It seems that 9-3 would be even more safe with same fun to drive.
  • ywangywang Posts: 1
    I would like to buy a Saab 900, but I am concerned about the reliabiliy of the car. Where can I find data regarding this make and model?
  • I own a '99 Saab 9-5 5-door hatch. It's a pre-release (only 5 in the US now) Its an excellent car I got it through a tryout lease I can only keep it till mid-summer and then have to give it up, It is the best car I have ever driven I would buy another any day, Saabs will run for around 23,000 to about 42,000 depending on what you get, has some good information on prices of new Saabs. In fact I'm going to BUY a Saab 9-5 This Summer.
  • mznmzn Posts: 727
    Here's something to sweeten the pot! Take a look at our News & Views area to get the skinny on Saab's "Free" Trip to Sweden!
  • I have owned Saabs since 1977, and have had at least one Saab hatchback since 1978 (a '77 99 5-door). I currently have a '91 9000 hatchback. Before that was the "Long-departed-and-unlamented Simca Collection, which were also all (3) FWD hatchbacks.

    There is just no other "car that looks like a car" that will carry the amount of stuff you can cram into a FWD Hatchback, although a stylish "station wagon" is, IMHO, a viable alternative. The Saabs' rear seats employ a "flip and fold" strategy which allows for a comfortably proportioned seat and still gives a low, flat floor when folded. ("TLDAUL" Simca Collection featured a linkage which lowered the seat down when the back was folded, but current designs with the fuel tanks located under the seat would make that hard to implement.) The Saabs in particular add tremendous longevity and safety to the equation, along with sporty performance and handling. Living here in the "salt belt", corrosion resistance is important. The basic design and the paints and sealants Saab uses are extremely effective.

    Saabs should be less prone to the kind of peculiar reliability glitches in minor parts which have plagued the marque in the past as these bits and pieces are replaced with items which have passed the General Motors certification process.
  • mznmzn Posts: 727
    Sounds like a very satisfied customer! I wanted to get the Saab 900 but I wasn't tall enough. The salesman started talking about pedal extenders and my face fell. The decison was final when I wasn't tall enough to reach the hatch to close it. The salesman said, "Please, let me help you with that." I told him this just wasn't going to work unless he planned on taking up residence in the trunk! Oh well, it's a great car for the tall! :-)
  • pure911pure911 Posts: 40
    i had questions about Saab's reliablility, but when i saw that a bunch of base, turbo, and V-6 900 went 24,000 miles at the Talledega Speedway at an average speed of 140 mph, i was very impressed. It beat their previous record set ten years ago in a 9000.

    The only thing is I hear they depreciate VERY quickly
  • I've got just over 5000 miles on my 900 3-door and so far, I couldn't be more pleased. One thing you may or may not be aware of is the current dealer incentives. They're giving $3000 on the 900 series (including the 3-door which is already a good deal) and $4000 on the 9000 series. All this in an effort to clear the supply lines in preparation for the 9-3 and 9-5. I got a brochure on the 9-3 and it looks remarkably similar to the 900, so if you aren't intent on being an early adopter of the 9-3 or 9-5, you can get some really good deals on the 900 or 9000 if the dealers do what they should and pass the incentive along to the buyers, the Saabs are very competitively priced. My wife is also quite short so I did get pedal extenders installed which allows my wife to comfortably drive the car. The seat height adjuster in the 900 gives quite a bit of variability, but the angle of the seat cushion isn't adjustable except on the 900SE with the power seat. If reaching the hatch was the only thing stopping me, I'd dangle a rope or a leather strap or something to pull the hatch into reach. Don't give up so easily, carlady.
  • mznmzn Posts: 727
    I don't know. My reaction to the pedal extenders was a mental one. Do I want to feel like I'm driving my Dad's car? Also, for that amount of money, I'd like to think the car would fit me like a glove. It didn't, so I got another car that does. I'll leave the Saabs to taller folks. :-)
  • As for digging around for a 900 instead of a 9-3...
    The 9-3 will have the 2.0 turbo as the only engine, rather than the 2.3 non-turbo in the 900S 5-door, the suspension has been upgraded, and the seating has been replaced with the new style seats like in the 9-5: i.e., they have the active headrests for whiplash protection and side-bags.
  • mfatesmfates Posts: 1
    I am very interested in buying a used Saab 900. I have always feel a fan of the look and feel or the car, but I have also heard a few dicouraging remarks about the reliability and maintenance.

    Any input out there would be appreciated!
  • rmwolrmwol Posts: 1
    I am enjoying a 98 900se with one exception - does anyone know how to safely disable the "shift up" light? There doesn't seem to be a dedicated fuse for it and I've heard it is somehow tied into the whole computer diagnostics setup. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
    Thanks.
  • If you put your foot on the floor, the light goes out ;-). Other than that, I'm afraid it's "black tape". The upshift light allows the manufacturer to "short shift" during the epa test, yielding much better mpg numbers and, perhaps, lower emissions than achieved when driving "by ear", which is required during the test in the absense of the upshift light (whew, if my high school composition teacher saw that, she would retroactively lower my grades).
  • Saab has announced the pricing on the 9-3 (successor to the 900). Prices can be viewed on "The Saab Network" http://www.saabnet.com. C'mon, edmunds, the 900 and 9000 are ancient history, lets get the 9-3 and 9-5 numbers on the site!
  • mznmzn Posts: 727
    You'll find the 1999 9-5 prices right here.

    carlady/host
  • oops, sorry, you're right about the 9-5 pricing...I stopped looking for it...but the 9-3 pricing isn't up yet. List prices are slightly below the corresponding 900 model prices, with added content across the board.
  • MrShift@EdmundsMrShift@Edmunds Posts: 43,633
    Dear wantasaab,

    I think your success or failure with a Saab depends primarily, in your case, on whether you have a good service facility nearby, perferably an independent shop. The year and model you chose is fine...it's new enough that most of the traditional Saab foibles have been corrected. But there's no known cure for bad service and Saab seems to be particularly victimized by this...oh, don't get me wrong, there are a few good dealers around, but it's hit and miss.

    Without a good and reputable service garage, I'd say you won't be happy with the car in the long run.

    Longtime Saab owner
  • ngc33ngc33 Posts: 1
    Mr. Shiftright hit the nail on the head. You need to introduce your used Saab to its best friend, the Saab mechanic. Seriously, even a new Saab should probably get acquainted with an independent mechanic instead of the dealership. And the good mechanics are tough to find! Saabs are addictive. I used to drive nothing but Volvos but I got hooked on these unique and mysterious cars. Best wishes on your plunge into Saab-land.....
  • mznmzn Posts: 727
    This is interesting! Why take your car to an independent mechanic rather than to the dealership? Is it just a matter of cost?

    carlady/host
  • ehpehp Posts: 1
    Any service recommendations in the DC/MD area??
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