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Ford Fusion/Mercury Milan Hybrid

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  • Just a few observations on my new MMH. I got it for $300 off MSRP, +$500 dealer fee. I wasn't able to drive it off the lot. As I was trying to, after deal was complete, the brakes failed. I had to wait for the next day for service to check it out. A sensor in the brake pedal failed (used to direct the regenerative braking?) failed. The part had to be ordered from Detriot. Dealer installed it and now the car works great.
    I was averaging 43 mpg over the 1st 150 miles with limited A/C use. Now that it is hot, my mpg has dropped to 36 over the last 50 miles. I live in S. FL.
  • larsblarsb Posts: 8,204
    Actually, they did better in the Prius:

    Hybrid drivers complete run for mileage mark 2 days, 1,400 miles, 110 mpg 1 tank

    Great job anyway, Ford !!!
  • pableau,

    Yea, the warmup is very important. Why don't you change the fuel efficiency history display on the dash to the lowest setting, I think it covers only a few minutes. Then each of the 10 bars on the histograph will cover less than a minute. Then it should be very easy to tell when the engine warms up enough to get good fuel efficiency. Today for a 2.7 mile "trip"(4 redlight stops) which started with a hot ICE and the EV battery @ 75%, I got 47.9 mpg; no A/C, and not hypermileing-but slow increase in speed to speed limit of 40-45 mph.
  • Why did Ford put a 17.5 gal fuel tank on the hybrid version? I assume that that is the same as the other Fusions, but it is a waste of space and might cause problems due to gasoline that stays in the fuel tank for months.

    The only real complaint I have about this car is the size of the trunk. Five gallons less would still give us over 400 miles per tank, which is reasonable. I would like additional space in the trunk about the size of a 5-gal bucket. Or, additional batteries equal in size to a 5-gal bucket would give us more EV time and thus higher mpg.
  • That's a bummer!! No idea what is going on?

    When I was getting info on eta, the dealer told me not to trust what Ford estimates because they will sometimes give an eta on another vehicle. He used my first eta as an example when another Fusion Hybrid came in on the date I was told to expect mine.
  • hayley2hayley2 Posts: 44
    Wyatt - Would you believe I received a call this afternoon from my Dealer that my MMH has came in. Meet with them Wed morning to do the paper work and then it's mine. Finally!!! :) :) :)
  • Congrats!! Tuesdays must be the day since that is the day my car showed up at the dealer unexpectedly and it was the only car on the truck for that dealer.

    Today I took a 100 mile round trip on a semi-rural 4-lane hiway over flat to low rolling hills. No A/C, I was the only "load", driving speed limits of 45-65 mph with slow increasing of speed to the limit and then cruise control. On the main leg out I got 37.9 mpg for 46 miles and 43.4 mpg for the main 42.1 mile leg home. There were a few short legs in between where I got 40.8 mpg to 47.9 mpg. On short legs, the starting charge of the EV battery really makes a difference (assuming a hot ICE). And the best thing were very few other drivers pissed-off at me. I passed more than passed me.

    Someone earlier asked if it was better to coast to a stop, gradually brake to the stop, or sorta coast to the stop and brake hard at the end, as far as recharging the EV battery. What works for a hypermiler in a nonhybrid might not be the best for a hybrid car with regenerative braking. Does anyone know or have a WAG?

    My guess is coasting because the ICE and/or electric motor would be producing electricity for the EV battery from the momentum of the forward motion turning both of them. I wonder if hard braking produces more electricity in a short period than the EV battery can use to recharge the cells, so some is sent to ground. We may have to wait for supercapacitors as an intermediary step for the EV battery.
  • hoyafanhoyafan Posts: 48
    For those who have taken delivery of your FFH, could you please post a review on Edmunds? Right now there are only 3 consumer reviews. Obviously some people who are investigating the car won't dig into this forum and will only read the reviews, so it would be nice to get some more reviews out there.

    Thanks.

    Link: http://www.edmunds.com/ford/fusionhybrid/2010/review.html?mktcat=style+review+pa- ge&kw=2010+ford+fusionhybrid+101141447+style+review+page&mktid=ik344168
  • lilengineerboylilengineerboy Posts: 4,116
    This post shows a typical interaction with Sync voice recognition - not for the impatient among us!

    MP3 player VS SYNC

    Note the task time for him to make his selection using SYNC compared to hand held Mr. Impatient. :P
  • acdiiacdii Posts: 753
    I'll bet if they put the Ford hybrid drive in the Prius it will do even better than the Prius drive.

    On a side note, has anyone noticed that special financing always excludes the Hybrids? Do they not want to sell them? If I could get 4.9% on the Fusion, it would make my monthly payment equal to what I pay now on a Camry Hybrid and would order one today!

    An owner of the company I work for just picked up a 2010 Fusion Sport and he let me check it out, I loved it, the seats are comfortable, the layout, fit and finish superior to the Camry, the only gripe I would have is the placement of the climate controls, they are at the bottom of the stack, in front of the shifter, but aside from that, a really nice car.
  • daninoahdaninoah Posts: 45
    Go to Pentagon Federal Credit Union. You can get a 60-month 100% car loan for 3.99%. Go get that hybrid! :shades:
  • daninoahdaninoah Posts: 45
    You can change or eliminate all the beeps and voice prompts. Go to the "menu" button below the nav screen, and push it until you see what you need on the screen. :shades:
  • wvgasguywvgasguy Posts: 1,405
    When you tell me a car is superior over another one, I don't really think you should consider cost as a factor in figuring "superiority". If so then a Cobalt and a coulple of hundred other cars are all superior to the FFH
  • wvgasguywvgasguy Posts: 1,405
    Do they not want to sell them? If I could get 4.9% on the Fusion, it would make my monthly payment equal to what I pay now on a Camry Hybrid and would order one today!

    Ford does not need to give a discounted rate to sell these. 0% offers are typically limited to vehicles that are not selling well. In order to go from a used TCH to a new FFH and keep the payment the same, I would assume you had a large down payment on the TCH (because you will lose depreciation) or the TCH had a high interest rate. Usually somewhere in the dealings of trading or selling a used car you have to lose money.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,622
    Who says your definition of superior is the only one?

    How about fuel economy (22 city vs. 41 city)? Or Sync?

    They're both nicely equipped midsized sedans so it's not too much of a stretch to compare them.
  • I got a FFH last Friday and am enjoying it immensely. It was a 502A package so it pretty much came with all the gadgets you could possibly order. My last car was a 96' Explorer so this was a big upgrade in technology and quality. I'm having a blast with the LCD screens that tell my efficiency, and Sirius with the Navigation is cool too.

    When I left the dealership it seemed like the dealership drove it a little and I started out with 16.9 miles to the gallon. Since then I've gotten it up 38 mpg. Most of my driving has been less than 5 minutes away so I think my efficiency is lower than it could be.

    On the freeway I'm getting roughly 40 mpg going 65 mph in the Austin area. Going downtown I've gotten as high as 62 mpg which I was stunned by. In mixed freeway and highway I've averaged as high as 53 mpg. All of these without driving at a snail's pace so I'm definitely satisfied.

    In short, I love this car. It looks good. It drives great, and all the gadgets inside are extremely fun. The only negatives I've noticed thus far is that when music is playing and the car is switching from gas to electric the sound lowers a bit before it goes back to normal. It's not too bad of a gripe, but it is there. The other negative is the gadgets can be distracting when driving because they're so fun. Other than those two, its a great vehicle so far.
  • Your comment about the radio volume decreasing is interesting. After I've driven our car 400+ miles-mainly on the hiway, I haven't noticed this. But when I mentioned it to my wife who has driven our car for 600 miles in city traffic, said, "Yea!! I've noticed that, but didn't know what caused it".
  • daninoahdaninoah Posts: 45
    The car has speed sensitive sound. It can be set to off, or 7 different settings. I would bet the "sound" issue is related to the setting.
  • lilengineerboylilengineerboy Posts: 4,116

    I've written about all the the sound gadgets in the FFH at http://ffh.squarespace.com


    Bill,
    Lots of musical options! You should really check out SYNC My Ride. It talks about SYNC, its capabilities, what phones/carriers work, what handheld devices (iPod, Zune, etc) have been tested to work with SYNC, how to update it, and all that kind of stuff.
  • wpwoodjrwpwoodjr Posts: 12
    I did sign up for SYNC My Ride and its a pretty dead web site.
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