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kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,850
Tell us about your Home Theater. Or, just discuss potential purchases here.

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  • lemmerlemmer Posts: 2,676
    Maybe I should say that Bose is the greatest home theater company in the world. That seems to bring people out of the woodwork - with pitchforks and torches usually.
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,899
    You left out a word, lemmer. Should read "Bose is the greatest home theater marketing company in the world." Right?

    I'm not talking, because I've got B&W. Unbelieveably great. Only thing I own that's worth over $200, but it's not exactly what most people are looking to pop for.

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  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,295
    B&W? Over $200?

    I guess it is real expensive finding a black and white TV these days.

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  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 5,913
    I guess I had a home theater back in the dorm room with the huge 13" B&W with the tin foil on the rabbit ears!

    The young uns now have no idea how to manipulate tinfoil or tape pennies to the tone arm :P

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  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,196
    Funny. I have all Zenith brand televisions and VCRs in my place and all are holding up very well. I have a 1980s Zenith console television in my basement den that still delivers a crystal-clear picture.

    Sony is the Toyota of the electronics industry - still coasting on the fatally false perception held by too many sheeple that Japanese automatically = better.
  • fezofezo Posts: 9,387
    Hey, I think a 1980 Zenith would still be a REAL Zenith. They were the best.
  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,196
    VIZIO! The brand Wal~Mart customers KILL FOR!!!
  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,388
    Sony is the GM of the electronics industry - still coasting on the fatally false perception held by too many sheeple that American automatically = better.

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  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,343
    If you can find electronics actually built and assembled IN JAPAN, they are automatically better and you can take that to the bank. A lot of the high end brands high end stuff is still made and assembled in Japan. The problem in the electronics industry is that you have the equivalent of a Rolls Royce and Chevy Aveo coming out of the same company. Sony has their HIGH end ES line and XBR tv line, and they also have their low end stuff to compete more price wise with the Chinese brands.

    No matter the company though, I look for "made in Japan" on the box of my high end electronics. When I see made in China... it's not a death sentence, but it's a red flag. I'm not saying China doesn't make good stuff, but it's not bullet proof and automatic :)

    Denon still makes some of their stuff in Japan, as well as I think some Harmon Kardon prodcuts are made in Japan, but it's getting harder and harder to find something not made in China or Malaysia or Singapore
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,052
    I don't want to sound like I come from big money or anything, but we have two flat screen tv's in the house now. One of them is a 50" Hitachi plasma, and the other is some off-brand 42" LCD that I can't remember the name of right now. Dynex or something like that? Maybe the big name brands do give you a better picture, but I'll be danged if I can tell the difference. The picture's already big enough and clear enough that you can see every wrinkle, crows-foot, or pimple that an actor might be sporting. And don't try watching anything naughty in the livingroom with the door open, because body parts are recognizable from 300 feet away! :P

    I still have an old early 80's 25" console. Magnavox I think it is. One of my friends gave it to me about 10 years ago, and I retired it about 3 1/2 years ago, when we got a new 32" tube tv for the living room (that one's obsolete now, too :( )

    I'm half-tempted to just pitch the thing, but it's so much of a relic, that maybe somebody would want it. Maybe I'll try listing it on Craigslist or something.
  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,343
    Hate to tell you this, but Zenith is one of the brands my friends and friends' families regretted buying and skimping out on the higher priced higher quality products. I think their Zenith TV lasted 2 years and busted.

    I had no idea Zenith was American based at the time or any time until you mentioned it once recently. If more people had experiences like you with Zenith and GM, maybe they both wouldn't be bankrupt or on the verge now?

    Sounds like the bulk of the populace had perceptions and experiences more like mine? People eventually vote with their wallets.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,052
    My grandparents had a 1972 Zenith console, with a slate top (probably fake). It quit working in 1986. Granddad took the chassis out, took the sides off, and the top fit down on the base perfectly, making a coffee table. I actually still have the thing!

    They replaced it with another Zenith, but by this time they were cheapened considerably. The thing crapped out in about 5-6 years.
  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,343
    Sony 50" SXRD 1080P TV
    Harmon Kardon AVR 745
    Polk Audio LSi Towers in front, LSi C Center, Lsi 7 bookshelves in back, and Klipsch 10" subwoofer. Monster cable high end stuff throughout to connect. Panasonic VCR. Denon 3910 DVD/DVD Audio, Super Audio CD universal player.
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    Harmony/HK remote TC30
  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,388
    I bought a Sony TV 2 years ago and it stopped working! Garbage.

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  • fezofezo Posts: 9,387
    Zenith was the last of the big American electronics companies to stop making their products here. We had a 1975 Zenith 25" TV that my dad had past 2000. He hated replacing it.

    The company that makes Zenith now has nothing to do with the old company other than that own the name and logo.

    Dad replaced the Zenith TV with an RCA - another name that doesn't mean what it did - and it has outlived dad.

    Somewhere up in the house we had a couple old Zenith AM radios that date back to the thirties. Last I tried them they still worked.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,295
    oooh, the old Monster Cable scam. Talk about marketing. :P

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,372
    >Sony is the GM of the electronics industry ... that American automatically

    But Sony isn't American. That argument doesn't work.
  • fezofezo Posts: 9,387
    lemko - if you're going to wait until your Park Avenue dies GM is doomed! That car isn't going to die. It has found the fountain of automotive youth and is regenerating....

    But you've certainly done your part.

    Sony, in addition to having put their name on some mighty bad junk after making such efforts to make a good name, is invariably full of proprietary parts so if anything goes wrong with it you HAVE to go through Sony. No, thanks.

    My big TV is a Toshiba plasma but right now the video inputs aren't working. There's no way this should be an issue. It's only a couple years old.
  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,196
    I think the Zenith name is now owned by LG. I remember my aunt who just passed away at age 93 had a still operating DuMont television which I believe was manufactured in New Jersey in the 1950s. My Dad told me his family was the first on the block to have a television and all the neighbors would come over to their house to watch it. I believe it was a Sylvania brand television the family received as a gift from his brother-in-law who owned a radio and TV store in Jersey City.
  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,343
    Did you contact Sony about your frustration?

    Did you buy the cheapest Sony product line of TV's money could buy?

    I bet Sony would help you out in making that TV work again if you contacted them to express frustration that a SONY TV of all TV's would die in 2 years.
  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,343
    Now BOSE is all marketing hype and no substance, no doubt about it. Though maybe they make halfway decent car systems, not sure (certainly overpriced).

    BOSE makes the worst home products, and then sells them for big bucks? I don't get it, don't people listen?

    Now to Monster Cable, yes, it is a lot of marketing, and yes they are somewhat overpriced. But if you can get deals on their good stuff, it's very worth it. I'll take the Radio Shack vs. Monster Cable challenge (blind sound test) anyday. I did my own A-B comparisons before comitting to spending big bucks on cables and wires, and unbelievably, the cables and wires do make a BIG difference with high-end equipment. Now if you have a $100 DVD player... no sense in paying as much for the cables. A good rule of thumb is to spend 15% of your home theater budget on the wires and cables.

    My speaker bi-wires in front cost me about $200, but they are lifetime guaranteed (and so well-built) I'll never need to buy speaker wire ever again in my life. Not a bad deal.
  • dad23dad23 Posts: 430
    Wasn't it here that someone said "all highs, no lows, must be BOSE?" I can't say that I've ever heard anything good about them...
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,850
    But... just made my purchase this week..

    We just finished our lower level, and have a custom built-in entertainment center.. Really wasn't looking for the whole "home theater" experience... Just wanted a big HDTV with surround-sound.

    Went to BB for the advertised special.. Sony KDL-52XBR6 with BluRay player and Geek Squad install for $2350.. Ad started Sunday.. so, naturally when I went on Monday, they were sold out of the XBR.. Got the same bundle on a KDL-52W4100, which doesn't have the 10-bit panel of the XBR (8-bit), but does have the 120hz refresh rate. Even better, the price was $400 less.. Added a cheap Sony surround-sound 5.1 system for $250.. and, 36 months, interest-free..

    I'm a happy camper... 6 months ago, when we started the construction project, I figured to pay at least that much or more for a 46" LCD with 60hz.

    regards,
    kyfdx

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,850
    We have cable service... I was looking into HD service.. Called the cable company, and the agent said that I could try hooking the cable directly into the TV, and it's possible that I'll be able to receive some of their HD service without upgrading or getting a cable box. :surprise:

    She said that if I now receive a channel that is also available in HD (Discovery Channel, for example), then theoretically, I should also get it in HD. (assuming that my TV has an HD tuner, which I believe it does). She did say that the only way they would guarantee that I could get the HD channels, though... was to rent their HD cable box with DVR for $15/mo.

    So, does that sound right? Or, is she entirely mixed up? I've got Insight Cable, if anyone else is familiar with that. I'm not wild about increasing my cable bill, so if I could get the main network channels plus ESPN in HD, that would be enough for me..

    regards,
    kyfdx

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  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,673
    So, how do you like the W4100? I'm still leaning toward the Panasonic PZ800U. I've been too busy to install the Energy Take Classic in the basement, but I am anxious to hear what it sounds like.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,850
    Don't know yet.. not hooked up..

    It looked good in the store.. ;)

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  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,343
    You should be able to add an HD cable box service rental for less than $10/mo. However, you don't have to have DVR to have HD, which is what they are trying to sell. Now maybe your company has purposely not made a simple HD only box (DVR is an entirely different thing). Sort of like GM deciding only to make trucks with V8's and saying you can't get a car with a V8 because you have to have a Truck in order to get a V8.
  • tallman1tallman1 Posts: 1,874
    (assuming that my TV has an HD tuner, which I believe it does)

    She was probably talking about a digital tuner vs. analog. Your Sony does have a digital tuner so you can hook up the cable and have it find the digital channels for you. Sometimes the channel numbers are strange. I know I had a heck of a time figuring things out for my parents because they wanted to avoid a cable box, but they did get some digital channels.
  • okko1okko1 Posts: 327
    we bought a bose system with 90 day satisfaction guarantee. they called it the acousta-mass system and it was junk all the way. it worked for about a month and started having hard drive problems. they wanted me to ship direct to them for the fix. we also purchased a wave plus at the same time. did not care for it either. to make a long story short returned them both to the bose store. i might add they were very cooperative about the return. bought a jvc ed plasma and yamaha surround and have been very satisfied. also have a toshiba that's older than dirt and is still in use. :)
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,850
    Yeah... the only HD box they offer includes the DVR.. It's $15/mo..

    I think I could have plugged the cable directly into the TV and received some HD channels, but probably not all.. and, not guaranteed..

    Anyway, picked up the box this morning... The DVR will come in handy, as we only have a VCR for recording programs now... If I ever get another TV with a digital tuner (meaning: when the next one breaks), I'll probably just try plugging in the cable to see what happens..

    Our cable company has dropped all other fees for HD programming.. If your tier offers a channel that is also available in HD, you automatically get the HD channel at no extra charge, assuming you have the HD/DVR box.. This makes me fairly happy, as my cable bill is only going from $53 to $68 (more or less).. We have the 2nd tier cable package... about 75 channels.. I think we'll get about 15-20 HD channels.. Basically, all the cable channels that aren't on a premium tier.. I won't get the NFL Network or Speed, but I don't have those now... I could add all of the other channels for $20/mo., but would then need a digital cable box to watch them on the other TVs in the house, at $8/mo. each... :surprise:

    Anyway.. I'm hooking it all up tomorrow (with some help). Considering our main TV now is a 36" Sony tube, I think it will be pretty cool... Not wild about having to go downstairs to watch it...

    Thanks for the replies...

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