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Chevrolet/Geo Metro

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  • muffin_manmuffin_man Posts: 865
    I'm a big metro fan, but info on the Metro here is basically zero. I think they will delete the name of the "metro" forum if I post it, but who knows, maybe they'll let it go?

    just eliminate all the spaces...

    team swift . net
  • ro22tolro22tol Posts: 24
    I found the site. Thanks!!!
  • OK- It will turn the engine and idiot lights off but won't rotate

    to Lock Position where you can take out the key, and the battery

    keeps draining overnight.

    Can any one suggest a manual with clear pictures/instructions or,

    better yet, personal experience with a solution?

    Thanks in advance...
  • 188k+188k+ Posts: 1
    i currently own a 96 metro lsi hachback, it is the 4cyl (1.3L) automatic with 188k on it and recently it has started getting some very poor mileage, im talking 25mpg and worse i got 200 mi to my last tank. it popped up the check eng light and my mechanic scanned it and it was showing high voltage numbers on the o2 sensors well we reset the computer and nothing has popped up since (no lights) but im down to 1/8 tank and ive only got 173 miles on it so im not ewven sure if its going to make 200mi this time, im getting ready to change the plugs in a desperate attempt to help my mileage, sensors and converters are high $$ for this car so i really cant afford to play guess the sensor @ 90-300.00 a pop anybody here had any similar problems ??? i need a solution asap !! or else theres gong to be fire-engine red metro just plain ON FIRE!! cuz its pissing me off, what i cant get is that it runs excellent, still has good power and doesnt smoke or use oil, the only thin thats broken on it is the rear defroster which works when it wants to. PLEASE RE: contact me here or gmcman28@gmail.com
  • dkuhajdadkuhajda Posts: 487
    You need an EGR valve, O2 sensor, and catalytic converter, as well as the tune up.

    The cat is partially plugged, the O2 sensor is the primary cause of that, and the EGR valve and chambers not working is why the O2 sensor is fouled.
  • dkuhajdadkuhajda Posts: 487
    Forgot to mention that the above is assuming the car has good compression on all four cylinders.
  • tleahytleahy Posts: 1
    i have a geo 4cyl with lifter noise..how serious is it and how cheap can i fix it....i just want directions on how to fix just what i havto and where to buy the parts..........
  • stobarstobar Posts: 110
    I've been reading back through the 31 pages of notes in this forum. I wanted a good commuter car and found a 1998 Chevy Metro, 1.0 liter 3 cylinder owned by a retiree in Florida with only 28,200 original miles on it! Car was garage kept and still shines. It's that "California Gold Metallic" color, although my wife calls it Yellow. Knowing that the car only averaged 4,000 miles a year, was wondering what all I should check out on it? Car is coming by auto transport and will be delivered today. Won't do any major driving until I have the oil changed and radiator flushed. Hoses look to be good. It's a 5-speed manual transmission, no air, no radio. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
  • stobarstobar Posts: 110
    One other item of question - a mechanic told me that the PCV valve for Metro's runs about $80. Is that correct, or possibly different prices for older models or engine sizes? Thanks again.
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    The price for the PCV valve sounds awful high. They normally run between $10-25. I would suggest changing it yourself since they are very easy to replace, usually just one hose clamp. You might want to change the fuel filter and air filter as well. Otherwise, I don't think anything else would need to be done to it. It sounds like you got a very cheap almost new car! Hope it serves you well. I'm sure you will enjoy the excellent gas mileage.
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    It depends on how bad the lifter noise is. Some engines are known for lifter noise when the oil needs to be changed or if the oil is too thin of a weight. If it's just a tapping noise heard mostly at idle or on startup, I wouldn't worry about it and just try to put in a thicker weight oil, like straight 30w or 20w-50. These oils cannot be used in the winter if you live in a cold climate so be sure to switch back to 10w-30 at the appropriate time. In and of itself, a noisy lifter won't harm your engine; it's just annoying to hear. Try a thicker weight oil and see if that helps.
  • ces44ces44 Posts: 2
    Did you ever get help on this? If not, better late than never.
    I've had trouble with this on my geo's. Its the seat belt controller switches. If they stick open, the seatbelt controller holds the belts unlocked. When you close the door, you should hear a faint clunk/click as the lock is let go inside the door.
    Also check the switch on the ignition lock. I had one come loose.
  • ces44ces44 Posts: 2
    This is a very reliable car. I had 420,000+ miles on my 91 when I crashed it into a pipe fence. Oil change every 3000mi, timing belt and O2 sensor every 50,000 miles. One clutch and struts at about 200k miles.
    You must drive like every body else is a nut. A possum at highway speeds will wreck havoc.
  • stobarstobar Posts: 110
    Now that I have my 1998 Metro 2-door hatchback 5-speed, was wondering if anyone can answer a couple questions regarding parts. The car came with the standard 13" steel wheels with black bowtie center cap. Will 13" Metro hubcaps (similar to what was found on the LSI models) fit on these rims? Also, the car was missing the interior mirror cover panel. This is the small black triangular panel that is inside the car behind the drivers side mirror. I have found a black replacement piece, but it has no lever to manually move the mirror. Maybe the lever was not available on the standard model? If not, I will live with adjusting the mirrors with my hand. The passenger side piece does not have this lever. Was hoping someone would know if the lever was found on the base model, or only the LSI? (Ingtonge18 - thanks for your previous response.)
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    The hubcaps will fit your wheels. The base Metros did not have lever adjustable side view mirrors. Heck, I was shocked to discover my base 2005 Chevy Colorado doesn't have them either. Chevy needs to modernize a bit in this respect.
  • mrspoonmrspoon Posts: 2
    I knocked the old, leverless mirror of my 98 metro one day at the car wash and when I went to the wreckers to buy a new one they gave me one with a lever that fit just fine. I had to get the interior cover as well because mine didn't have a hole in it for the lever. It only cost me $25 cdn. so you may find that worth looking into.
  • stobarstobar Posts: 110
    Thanks for your replies! I have since found that the 1998 base models did not have the levers for mirror adjustment. Regarding that interior part behind the mirror that I was missing, couldn't believe the GM dealer was asking $51 for it! I was fortunate to have found this part on eBay for $4.99. Seller stated it fits 1994-2001 models, but I thought 1998 was the year that the design changed? I know they changed the Metro to the Chevy badge in 1998. I went ahead and ordered in anyway, hoping that it would fit. Here is the link to the part if anyone could verify: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7959695508

    Thanks again all!
  • stobarstobar Posts: 110
    mrspoon - did you put the mirror and cover on yourself? How hard is it to put the interior cover on? Listing stated it was attached with two clips?
  • stobarstobar Posts: 110
    If the hubcaps will fit, will the center caps have to be removed or will the hubcaps fit over them? I'm afraid if I have to remove the center caps, there would be a better chance of dirt and dust buildup in the grease.
  • darinmpgdarinmpg Posts: 1
    Hello -

    I've never owned a Metro/Firefly, but have been interested in them for a few years... Tempted by the excellent fuel economy, but put off by the small size. I also do all my own maintenance/repairs, and I suspect these are easy cars to work on.

    I'll never know if I don't try one. So I'm specifically looking for a 1998-2000 Metro/Firefly 3-cyl 5-speed hatchback in Ontario/Western Quebec. I'd prefer a private sale.

    If anyone has any leads, please let me know.

    Darin
  • mrspoonmrspoon Posts: 2
    I don't know if this is too late but it's really easy to put the inside piece on. As with most of the Metro's interior, if you put it in place and give it a whack, it'll go on just swell. Just make sure that when you're screwing the mirror on that the screws atre straight, otherwise when they cross thread they;ll snap off the little plastic things they're supposed to hold in.
  • stobarstobar Posts: 110
    mrspoon - I have ordered the piece but have not put it on yet. The mirror is in place, it's just the interior part. Here is a picture of it: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7959695508

    From the bare metal on the inside, it looks as if there are two white plastic plugs/nuts that the piece possibly screws into, or was attached to the original piece. One is still in place. Hopefully I will be able to just snap this one in place.
  • flyinv55flyinv55 Posts: 1
    OK they are threatening gas prices will be $3 a gallon this summer so I finally decided to buy a Metro. My 87 Honda Accord finally died and a neighbor had a 97 Metro for $1500 so I bought it. It is the 1.3 5spd,2dr, no A/C. There is no owners manual and the odometer is reading 80K miles. The "check engine soon" light is on and I am getting only 33mpg with 90% hwy driving. My main question is what are the 80K mile service recommendations? On my way to work yesterday I spotted a 96 Metro sitting in a yard so I asked the owner if its for sale. I got it for $100, he said the motor is weak with only 122k miles. So now I have a parts car but I wonder if I need to change the EGR, CC and o2 sensor on my 97 at 80K miles? what about the timing belt? How often should the belt be changed?
  • stobarstobar Posts: 110
    flyinv55: It doesn't look like many people are posting to this forum anymore. I bought a used 1998 Metro a few weeks ago, and although a few people have replied, this forum doesn't seem to get the traffic that is used to. I was fortunate to find a low mileage Metro, only 28K miles on it. When I got the car, I went ahead and had all the fluids, hoses, and belts changed out, with the exception of the timing belt, which the mechanic said was in good shape, and new tires. I have also been pouring throught websites to find out what I could from other owners, not to mention reviewing the 31 pages of posts on this forum. My car is just like yours - 5 speed manual, basic car with no a/c; didn't even come with a radio - 3 cylinder, 1.0 liter engine. I had the oil, radiator, and transaxel fluid changed out. Also, the uppper and lower hoses. Recommend you also check the air and fuel filters, and change them out. After reviewing the posts, most it seems have changed out the timing belt at 50-60,000 miles. Might want a mechanic to take a look at it and see if it has the original. If so - change it! Also, I found most people change out the O2 senser at 50,000. These little cars are great and I am happy that I bought it. If you wouldn't mind, please drop me a note, as since you have a part car, if you wouldn't mind, I might be interested in a few parts. My e-mail is: stobar@yahoo.com
  • ecu77ecu77 Posts: 3
    A few questions for the Metro faithful:

    1. Anybody had blue smoke at startup (after sitting at least 4 hours)? I have 53k on 1.3 auto Enterprise Rental I bought at 48K ( i run 10/30 Mobile 1 every 3K and changed the original plugs at 48 K and they looked normal).

    2. Will switching to 175/70/13's hurt my fuel mileage (Averaging 32)
  • ecu77ecu77 Posts: 3
    1.3 Owners,

    How many of you have found the overhead out to the point of having to adjust the valves? Is this just a check or are you guys adjusting?
  • I have a 3 cylinder, 5 speed, air, 98 metro base model. I bought it at 25,000 miles. I have had it serviced at the local chevy dealer. They were unable to locate the fuel filter. Where is it? Also, mine uses oil. It doesn't leak it nor burn it, but uses over a qt. per 1000 miles which is quite a bit more than any of my other cars. Is that normal?
  • metromaxmetromax Posts: 1
    I have a 2001 Metro Lsi with the 1.3 liter and auto trany with just over 50k miles. The car has been surging while cruising. Its like the car will accelerate by itself in little bits. I can't figure out if its a tranny problem of something with the engine. Anyone ever have this type of problem, and how was it fixed?
  • Just got a 1991 Firefly auto convertible 1.liter.I need new pieces and maybe a new motor and all new seal around the doors..Where can I find all that and what can I expect for prices.
  • baveuxbaveux Posts: 175
    The fuel filter is located in the rear wheel well on the l/side, in front of the shock absorber if I recall correctly
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