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2010-2011 Buick LaCrosse



  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    As you know, reception has been a big issue for me with dropouts.
    Yesterday I stopped at light. Rear shade was down and I raised. As it neared top, signal dropped. I lowered and as soon as it started moving down, signal dropped untill nearly half way down. I repeated this several times to verify.
    It was purely by accident that I discovered this quirk. I was likely in an area of an already weak signal, but the shade interferring is likely something GM overlooked.
    Does anyone know where the diplexing unit is located. There are some where the antenna cables were hooked up backwards, a simple swap.
    Diplexer funtions for mixing the different signals through the antenna, both transmit and receive. XM would use it and possibly OnStar. FM uses rear window as I recall.
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    One last thing I will be checking carefully as a first item. The "SEAT!" for comfort.
    One vehicle they were considering putting me in as a loaner was a JEEP cherokee. The comfort level of the seats was many times better, particularly in padding and support. Even the Malibu has better seats in my opinion, in suede. They are extremely firm, but quite supportive, and no feeling of a hard pan under the padding.
  • ntprontpro Posts: 5
    Mine have the Michelen's. I saw on several other forums too complaints on the Goodyears so I was happy to see I wouldn't have to worry about it. I really wanted the AWS version as I live in Ohio, but it was very hard to find in the config I wanted. I couldn't go to the more plentiful 2012 models as I wanted the 0% financing. I hated buying a 2011 when the 2012 was out, but I couldn't pass up 0%. Even 1.9% adds a lot more money to the term.
  • ntprontpro Posts: 5
    Although I have only had the car for a week, I use the rear shade all the time (and of course, it gets forced down when in reverse) and I have had no antenna issues. I would be very surprised if it interfered. It is inside the car and the FM antenna, if integrated in to the rear window would get the signal from the outside of the car. Same goes for the top antenna, which is above the shade on the top of the car. Doesn't seem likely. I think with all of the issues you are having, you would just move on to another car? :shades:
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    I can't say for sure how it is happening, but suspect metal parts in it are acting as a reflector/director as in antennae technology. Note, it only showed up when the signal was likely marginal yet still strong enough to gather.
    But with so many dropouts as I have, that could be a large number of the times that it is reducing signal beyond an acceptable level. One thing for sure, I know a lot of people who have reception issues, ie dropouts, with GM products. Which I find surprising because it was no issue with the Malibu, which was the first XM I had.
    One GM person said, "that is just the way it is". They get complaints frequently that signals dropout all through the Everglades. Duh?, It is likely cell phones and OnStar working on cell service would. How many people live in that area making it wise to put towers up every few miles. Maybe none?
    For sure, I won't be buying anything relatively new in GM line. I'd be stupid to chance 3 in a row. I'd bet that would never happen, and bet it would never happen 2 in a row. Surprise! There are a couple of older models I might consider in the GM line, ones that have a good reputation. My son-in-law has a Tahoe with way over 100K. Other than routine maintenance, gas, oil, tires, brakes, it has never had anything done except two new windshields. Limbs fell from the same tree twice. But truthfully, he has been ignoring a broken electric lock on passenger and the tailgate will not lock, at all. Still not bad and he uses it for pulling a boat long distance a few times a year.
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    Hi all, if you don't read some of the other forums here I did decide on the LaCrosse. I ended up with a Black/Titanium Premium III w/ NAV, Sunroof, and Driver Confidence.

    It is a really nice ride. Only have a little over 100 miles on it at this point, so lots of learning to do.

    Its comfortable, fairly quick and the features are pretty nice. The system accepted my 16GB thumb stick full of music with no problem and my Droid Incredible paired up nicely. My phone #s came over too even though the GM bluetooth site said it wouldn't.

    I'm sure I'll have some questions with the NAV unit, etc. Thanks for all the comments.

    Pics and Sales Story here: Click Me

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

  • bwiabwia Boston Posts: 1,161
    Congrats on the purchase/lease of your brand new 2012 LaCrosse. Black is a terrific color and the grey interior is a good choice to keep down the heat during the summer. But though matter how hot it is outside the AC is powerful enough to cool you down rapidly.

    BTW, there are several GM produced Youtube videos to help navigate through some of the tech gizmos.

    Enjoy the ride and drive safely.
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    Just for curiosity, what type of files did you put on the stick?
    If GM actually tested your Droid model, possibly it has had updates since then. Glad it worked.
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    They are all 256 or above MP3 on a San Disk 16gb thumb drive .

    Thanks, BWIA. I will do some searching

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

  • Congrats tjc78, I'm sure you'll love your Lacrosse. I bought a new 2011 last month and love it. I've averaged close to 26mpg through 1300 miles (4-cyl engine) and it is a flawless machine in every respect. :)
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    Thanks for the reply. I too had no problems with MP3 being read.
    If you get the other types as written in manual to play, please post.
    There are several types listed and I had tried the M4A, both flavors, AAC type with Nero encoder (lossy but better than MP3 according to many) and the Apple type (ALAC - Apple "lossless" audio codec). Neither worked from the same stick I had the MP3's on.
    Since you might like MP3, I will pass some knowledge on. I used Foobar mostly with plugins. However since getting the iPod I was getting to like iTunes. It has lots of features, but something popped up that has been in general discussion for years concerning MP3. That is, "Which codec is better?" It approached a boil when MS introduced WME. Prior OS used a Franhoffer CODEC that was near the top of the list for quality. But MS, in an effort to push its format, WMA (windows media), replaced that with a dumbed down Franhoffer version. It was locked so it would not encode or decode to a rate better than 128kbs. That way MS could claim there built-in WMA was better than the (built-in) MP3. With a bit of trickery, you could get the old one to install in WME, but nothing later. So, many switched to other MP3 CODEC widely available on internet.
    Here is the rub. Manufacturers can use any CODEC they want for MP3, some licensed maybe. And I've recently been finding posts that in the back of my mind I might have suspected. The posts report that the CODEC for MP3 in iTunes produces inferior quality. To that I must say there is a distinguishable difference between iTunes and Foobar. Which begs the question, "Is Apple playing the same game as MS, favoring it's ALAC CODEC, usually acquired by purchasing songs from their store?"
    "And finally, which CODEC is installed in this system for decoding your portable music?"
    The answer to that became easy for me since GM is not even able to say which portable HDD's work, use lossless whenever possible.
    My first choice was the ALAC and to acquire a codec/transcoder that would do the job. That way I could easily still make use of functions in iTunes which readily recognizes M4A, both types. (So far, it is the best I've used for cataloging over 30,000 songs) Many are MP3, 180kbs and above, but I also have a large number, maybe 4000, on computer that are lossless. They are APE (monkey's audio), FLAC (free lossless audio codec), WAV, and ALAC. There is also WMA-lossless available, but I have none, and don't know about compatibility with iTunes. APE and FLAC are not. Easily transcoded to WAV, but that makes the hugest file. ALAC, APE, & FLAC are approximately half that size and identical quality.
    My first choice for making my music, jukebox style, available in the car was the portable HDD. That worked out so well (sarcasm).
    Other choices then became, burn all of it to CD's, a mountain of CD's, oops I dropped them.
    Burn all of them to DVD but I'm not certain they would play from a DVD.
    Use thumb drives. Doable with MP3 but it appears not so with lossless type. And even so, with close to 300GB of music files, it would get rather cumbersome and expensive to put them all on thumb drives. No way to load more than one stick.
    The only way I've found that works for different CODEC, lossless and a high number of songs is iPod. But it has size limitations limiting the size of your library.
    Good Luck.
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    First, fix the portable HDD issue.
    Second, make the system smarter. Those who have been able to get a portable HDD to work (not on this vehicle) have run into an issue. Each time you plug your portable device or shut off your vehicle, none of the info is retained. And the larger the volume, the longer it takes for the system to reload and categorize the music. That is just plain dumb and frankly stupid for a company that claims to know enough about computers to intall them in automobiles.
    Plug your portable device into your computer. Put a shortcut to a file from it to your desktop. Unplug it, restart computer, plug device back in, click on shortcut. How long did it take to access the file?
    Those shortcuts (file links) with tag info should be stored on built-in HDD until you choose to rebuild the catalog. Seconds to see or choose what you want to play versus many minutes to rebuild the information. One user claimed it took about five minutes every morning to build his catalog, a small fraction of what I have and many have ten times more than me.
    (Ricky Ricardo voice. "GM {Lucy}, you got alot of fixin tu do!")
  • dj2006dj2006 Posts: 6
    Does anyone know if the upgraded Navigation system with the IntelliLink apps is available on 2012 models now? I had one salesman say yes and another say it won't be added till early 2012.
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    Ain't that a hoot!
    Adding the missing voice commands sounds like a fix to me. Making use of Nuance's software for voice recognition may be a step in the right direction.
    Really they need to fix the issue of being able to use a HDD as in my earlier posting.
    Pandora, I have on my iPod, is just another lossy format. You can pay for a higher quality stream, 192 kbs, but I have no idea if that is MP3 or some other lossy format. But I guess it might give you an alternative to XM.
    If you like CD quality music, radio that is, give this link a try.
    I use it in Foobar, but it works in several players including WMP.
    You have got to have a fast connection because it typically is over 1100 kbs in lossless codec, ogg-flac.
    If the above did not work in your player, try this one. Same place.
    They have different streams depending upon your choice of genre.
  • bwiabwia Boston Posts: 1,161
    Buick has done it again but much better this time.

    I was perusing the 2012 LaCrosse brochure and I was blown away by layout and high quality of interior photos in the brochure. Not sure who the target audience is but it has quite a few pictures of young attractive women either as potential buyers or eye candy for the unsuspecting gent.

    What's new for 2012? Other than the horsepower bump, the NAV interface looks different from the 2011 and the brochure mentions that the HDD is now 80GB with 30GD devoted to music. It also mentions Buick IntelliLink interactive radio (late availability). It goes on to say that with the ease of voice commands you can choose from Pandora Internet radio, Stitcher SmartRadio and available SiriusXM.

    Wow! that's fantastic but I was wondering if I could upgrade my 2011 infotainment system to this new and improve system? And yes, that 2012 brochure again, it is of the highest quality and the best such marketing promotion I have ever seen from GM, ever. Pick up a copy and see and feel for yourself.
  • gmcustsvcgmcustsvc Posts: 4,055
    It won’t be available until early 2012. I would recommend working with the sales person who gave you the accurate information. If you have any other questions about the new Lacrosse, and would like a more intimidate answer, I would definitely recommend utilizing the web chat tool on the web sites. GM has agents available to chat on GM sites. They can assist with incentives, feature availability, locating a specific vehicle or even a dealer. You can find this "floating button" on the current offers page of Hope this helps! Thank you for your interest in the new Lacrosse!
    GM Customer Service
  • bobadbobad Posts: 1,587
    Congrats buddy. I'm jealous, got to go drive one!
  • bwiabwia Boston Posts: 1,161
    Thought I'd share a GM produced video demo on the new IntelliLink system.

  • bwiabwia Boston Posts: 1,161
    edited November 2011
    This forum is dead so I am hoping this post will ignite some discussion.

    Hyundai has targeted its 2012 Azera directly at potential LaCrosse buyers. The elegantly dressed Azera comes with standard leather, navigation, and V-6 delivering 293 hp with better mileage than even the Avalon. No pricing details yet but it will probably sell at a significantly lower price than the Lacrosse Premium I.
  • bobadbobad Posts: 1,587
    I had great hopes for the Lacrosse. It's a handsome car, and GM gave it their best shot at building in quality and reliability. Unfortunately, the Azera (and V6 Genny) make it irrelevant.
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