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Conversion Van Pricing

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  • I am just going to stay home and not walk into the dealership until next week. I figure the end of the month will be a time for the dealers to really want to bargain at this point.

    Is there really such a thing as the tax time? I mean, all these dealerships are advertising that they have to move as much of their inventory as possible before March 1. Is that really true?

    I set myself up back in September. This dealer knows I want THAT van....... Maybe I should have my eye on another van with a different conversion company to use as my ace. The dealership knows that I am not a meek woman and have done all of our car purchasing in the past. I do know quite a bit, but the conversion stuff really has me baffled. I have never had to go in blind before. Maybe they will show me the invoice... If not, I can always take a two hour drive up to the factory and see what I can work out with them. I have dealt with the rep for this area. He was very helpful, but I still get the feeling that there was more room to play financially.

    Why can't someone get a hold of all the numbers for conversion companies and let us in on the invoice price? I understand that the companies do not have to share this with NADA, but wouldn't you think that insurance companies, at least, should know the "real" figures? I have never been so frustrated in all of my years of car buying. This better be worth it in the end, because I see myself not wanting to have to deal with salesmen/women again for a VERY long time!

    I have been buying new cars on the average of every two years, this is really freaking me out! I can't even figure out what the wholesale price of the conversion is to get a true quote from my insurance company. I never buy until I know what my insurance price is going to be..... I feel like I am totally in the dark here and feeling very insecure about this purchase. I want the van, but I want to know exactly how much that dealer paid for it in the first place. Second, I feel that since it has been sitting on the lot for several months (Conversions move quickly here) the dealership should want to get it off of their lot..... UGH!

    Should I just walk up to my salesman and ask him to see the dealer invoice on this particular van? Do most dealerships agree to take a loss if a vehicle has been sitting for an extremely long time? What I am getting at here is, if I can see the invoice, which if I can't I am going to walk, being last years model, sitting for a very long time, end of the month, right before their "tax time", do you suppose I could get it for even less? I know this is a reputable dealership that has been around for over 50 years. We have purchased from them in the past also.

    Okay, I am starting to ramble here..... Sorry. Do you think there is hope????? I need to get them down at least another 2-3K.......
    Deb
  • I've scanned back to the beginning, and see very few who are buying. I think we might be, but, sorry folks, I want a new van. We are considering a hi-top camper conversion. Most of the conversion packages I have found seem to like the Dodge 3500 platform. Anybody have any guidance for a newby?
  • I would like to determine the cost of my Van with 16000 miles. It has a 5.4l engine. The interior is in excellent condition. Valure seats and rear manual bed along with 4 captain chairs.
  • nwraaanwraaa Posts: 159
    What model Explorer are you negotiating for? If its the taxed out model (this one has the ground effects kit, bumper step for cleaning the windshield, hot/cold cup accessory, swivel seats, heated seats, rich tires, Nitro wheels, etc.)and has a popular color, then a price near 34k is not bad. Also, you are negotiating for a top of the line van.
  • kanga97kanga97 Posts: 2
    I have looked in NADA for subject cost on used vehicles, but found no recent entries. Is their another place to look for said information?
    Thanks.
  • jboaterjboater Posts: 199
    kanga97,
    NADA does publish van/truck conversion and limousine guide.
    It may not be accessible via the net.

    I know of no other sources.
  • Can someone please advise the fair market price for the following.
    1998 Dodge B1500 W/Chariot conversion.
    5.2L V-8, 19,532 miles. Following options:
    Power Steering, Compact Disc Player, Driver Side Air Bag, Power Windows, Cruise Control, Power Brakes, Passenger Side Air Bag, Air Conditioning, Tilt Steering Wheel, Automatic Transmission, Anti-Lock Brakes, Cassette, Power Door Locks.
    I'm looking to buy from a local dealer.
  • sclearmansclearman Posts: 1
    The conversion van my husband and I have has 85,627 miles on it(just went out and looked). I am thinking of selling it. It is in great condition. We have had it about 2 years and put about 6k on it. Would probably ask $5500. Would like to know if this seems reasonable.
  • nwraaanwraaa Posts: 159
    The 1998 Dodge should cost about $14,700.00 from a dealer.
    The $5500.00 for the 1989 Chevy seems a bit high for the van unless it was converted by a high end conversion company like Explorer or Starcraft and the van is in excellent condition.
  • Looking to buy a 1987 DODGE B250 RAM VAN Looks like a Westport conversion??. Has 65,000 original miles. Has the following: A/C (no rear A/C), cruise, tilt, power steering, windows, locks. Cloth interior. Nothing fancy but pretty clean for 14 years old.
    Looking to buy from local dealer who took this on a trade. Any ideas what this may be worth??

    Thanks - Arthur
  • rickh3rickh3 Posts: 1
    We seem to be "in the same boat" as many conversion van owners! We are trying to decide on a fair price to sell/trade our van. We considered downsizing in 1995 when the van had 42,000 miles. The dealer said conversions are very hard to price and offered us $9,000 back then, however we felt that was low because of the conversion package and the fact that the van was clean and in excellent condition. So, we called Explorer and the man there said that if the van is in great condition with low mileage we should be able to sell it for apx. $15,000 with the Explorer conversion package. In the middle of negotiating with the dealer we were relocated to North Carolina... Now its 2001 and we are still very happy with our van, but ready to downsize once again. The van now has 105,000 miles and is still clean and in good condition. Always garage kept and shows gentle wear on the interior. The dealer is offering us $3,000 as a trade (Blue book is $3,080 without a conversion). What's it worth? The local papers don't have anything listed to compare our van with. Most have a lot more mileage or a conversion package that doesn't compare with Explorer.

    Description: 3/4 ton GMC Vandura, 5.7 L, V8 engine. Transmission cooling lines for towing. Cruise, Power windows and locks, intermitten wipers, AC, AM/FM cassette, tilt wheel, etc. Explorer conversion package including: deep metalic blue paint with silver pin stripping, fiberglass running boards, ladder to luggage rack, spare tire with Explorer hardcover on rear door, deep blue/medium blue two-tone interior, wired for TV, 4 captains chairs that swivel, electric rear bench seat that folds to a queensize bed, interior wood is all maple, interior track lighting, overhead storage compartments, rear heat and AC, rear door table storage cabinet and tailgating bar, accordion blinds and curtains, vacuum, full width garment bar, built-in first-aid kit, pull-down tables, 2 stand tables, etc. Any help or suggestions are appreciated.

    Also, we are considering a GMC Safari van to replace our current van. It would be a downsize without compromising roomyness and cargo space. Has anyone got insider info on the 2002 due out soon? The dealer has told us only exterior changes are expected. Thanks! Rick
  • We need to sell a great full size van. It has 75,000 miles is a 1997 Ford E150 Explorer conversion. Has lots of extras, rear radio and cd player, duel air, wired for a tv, four captain seats and a rear bench seat that lets down to a full sized bed. Eight cyl. 5.4 triton engine, duel airbags,excellent condition, one owner well mantained with all records. What's it worth to you?
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 39,018
    Good question....

    Until someone here pipes up, you can look up the True Market Value for the van itself and then try to guess on the extras. If you are looking for a place to advertise it, try looking at Edmunds.com's Used Vehicle PowerShopper at http://applications.edmunds.com/products/ups/.

    Steve
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  • I would like to sell my 1999 Conversion Van. It has a Geneva conversion package in mint condition with 18,000 miles on it. I would like to know if anyone has any information on where to get fair market pricing on these conversions or am I at the mercy of a dealership salesman. AGGGHHHH!!!
  • If the price of a new van drops 30 to 40% in the 1st year, why are people buying "new" instead of clean "used" vans? How do these vans do in the snow? Are locking differentials an important
    option? If so why didn't any of the 6 new vans I saw have it? A leftover 2001 Chevy with a top of the line Explorer conversion listed at $49,000 dropped to $38,000 before we even started to negotiate. Are there so few buyers?
  • Hello . . .

    I am looking at an Eclipse Conversion Van . . . hi-top, TV/VCP, leather, power sofabed, etc. Chassis is a Ford E-150 with the 5.4L Triton V-8. Dealer wants $33,700 + processing + taxes & tags.

    First, how good is the quality of Eclipse? Second, is the asking price a good deal?

    Thanks all.
  • NADA does have pricing for Conversion Vans on their site www.NADAguides.com
  • jboaterjboater Posts: 199
    Re: post 337

    I've been driving a my2000 E-150 "Lunar" Eclipse low top for the past year.
    Previously drove a 97 E-150 Coachmen.
    I've been quite satisfied with the Eclipse package. Early on, I had an issue or two and Debbie at the customer service desk at Eclipse was very helpful. Being a manufacturer though, I'm not too sure they are equipped to handle very many calls from end users.
    The weakest link (no pun intended) has been Ford Motor Company and the selling dealer service department.
    I found FoMoCo Customer Relations anything but. They are unresponsive and simply don't get things right.
    The selling dealer service department, when I complained of "steering wander", responded with the infamous "no problem found". An improvement, but not totally corrected, came about from a post here at Edmunds. Check the tire pressure and keep them at maximum psi. In my case the max recommended psi is 41. They were at 37-38. Strange as it may seem, 3 psi will be noticable.
    Pardon my rambling.
    The number of conversion companies has declined dramatically. I think Eclipse makes a pretty good conversion that you likely will be satisfied with.

    If your like me, this post may not be too late. However, if you bought the Eclipse, I think you'll be okay.
  • fmgarciafmgarcia Posts: 11
    Thanks for the input, Jerry.

    I actually wound up buying an Explorer Conversion with the Limited SE package. As of now, my family and I have only taken it for one long trip, and so far, we are very satisfied with it. I have seen many posts from people who are happy with their Explorers, and I just hope that we will be in for long-term satisfaction with our van.

    Thanks again.

    Francisco
  • muddlermuddler Posts: 1
    I am in market for a conversion van. I can find a ton of information on chassi prices, but virtually nothing on conversion package costs. I am sure there is dealer mark-up in those little stickers in the window, but I have no idea how much. Anyone got any advice?
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