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What about VW TDI engine?



  • jss4jss4 Posts: 17
    Well, after watching the price of gasoline in the Bay Area rise to $2 a gallon, I decided to give the TDI serious thought. Imagine my surprise when I start reading the TDI thread in Edmunds and elsewhere and discover that they are no longer available here. Yet, no one, including the dealership I just spoke with, can give me a clear answer as to why. I've scanned the thread and see a lot of complaining about it, I've gone to the VW web site and it still gives the option of California emissions, but no answers. Anybody have a scoop or can point me via link to where I can find out what happened?
  • rgoetzrgoetz Posts: 13
    jss4: If your're still interested, go to, run a search on California and on New York, and learn.
  • pghpapghpa Posts: 1
    I am considering buying a Golf TDI for my next car both for reasons of fuel economy and engine life--I want to drive it for a very long time.

    However, I was reading the long-term review of the NB/TDI on the Edmunds website and it listed the fuel economy as being anywhere from ~34 mpg to ~44 mpg. Is that right? I thought a TDI could get around 50 mpg reliably.

    What sort of fuel economy can I really expect from a TDI? There is no way I'd pay the extra money for a diesel engine, diesel fuel, and diesel maintenance if I couldn't get some return on my investment via improved mileage.

    I'm anxious to hear what others out there have experienced. Thanks
  • theronrohrtheronrohr Posts: 51
    Check out the discussion groups at these sites:
    Most TDI owners are mystified by the low mileage they got on the Edmunds test car.
  • gotnadsgotnads Posts: 19
    I have a 2000 Golf GL TDI. I have not been able to wait to see what the mpg is until the tank was empty, so I have been filling up at 1/2 . My first fill up showed 44 mpg, mostly in town. My second showed 52.9 mpg, 80% highway driving. My last fill up showed 49 mpg with 40%in town, rest highway. Driving at 80+ mph. Why Edmunds mileage is so low is a mystery to me also.
  • yellowbugyellowbug Posts: 7
    Yes, they are available. I got my yellow TDI Beetle with black leather, luxury package and 5 speed. I paid the MSRP price of $20,450. I was lucky enough to get the exact color and options I wanted. Actually, my wife found it for me at a local dealer and bought it on the spot. The dealer had a ridiculous $2000 "beetle package" added to the MSRP that was nothing more than a dealer markup. She was able to get it for MSRP without paying the markup. It had just came off the truck the day before and had only 2 miles on the clock! Keep looking around, they're getting much easier to find with sunroof and leather.
  • tdibugmantdibugman Posts: 5
    My 98 TDI Beetle has just turned 54000 miles with nary a complaint. In fact, the engine has gotten smoother and much quicker with age. It is a sheer delight. I wouldn't have hesitated to get this engine in our 99 Passat but it is not offered. The engine has amazing reserves of power for 1.9L. Plus, my average mpg since new has hovered around 51, so I figure the extra initial outlay has been recovered.
  • jpcjpc Posts: 10
    pghpa: I've owned a 99 Jetta TDI for two years and have seen my mileage run around 44mpg, even with a heavy foot. I think if you averaged 65 on the highway you could do better. Maybe the 34 mpg figure was strictly city driving, I don't do much of that.
    I'm not sure why you think that diesel fuel, and diesel maintenance are more expensive. A currently pay 1.47 a gallon here in CT while regular gas is running around 1.85. Diesel will get more expensive in the winter as home heating fuel prices rise, but usually never more than premium gas. The diesel engine is actually cheaper to maintain than an equivalent gas engine. The oil might cost a couple bucks more but are no spark plugs, plug wires, rotors or cap to replace. Both gas and diesel engines should have new air and fuel filters every year, and both should have the timing belt replaced every 60000 miles. Its no more expensive to replace the timing belt on a diesel than it is on a gas engine.
    One last thing I'd like to point out. The diesel engine runs cooler and the diesel exhaust does not have any water vapor present, so your exhaust system will last longer.
    Hope this helps.
  • ozhouozhou Posts: 2
    2000 VW Golf GLS TDI with automatic transmission.
    Purchased new in Feb- 8500 miles,so far no problems. Test drove 2 new Golf's, a gas burner identical to mine, and a diesel with a 5 speed. Chose the TDI because I thought it ran better than the gas burner. That extra torque from the diesel makes a difference with A/C and auto transmission.
    Worst mileage 38 mpg
    Best mileage 45 mpg- 75 MPH on interstate with A/C on.
    Average around 41 mpg.
  • rfruthrfruth Posts: 630
    I've heard that anything turbo-charged can be a mechanical nightmare with the increased pressures, needing to let the turbo spin down, water separators, radiator treatments etc. Is this true on a diesel or is it designed with these things in mind ? Wonder if my next purchase should be one of the new hybrides or a diesel.

    Rob Fruth - Houston, Tx

    1981 Raleigh for commuting, errands & fun
    1997 Trek 2300 for real fun !
    2000 Civic hatchback when I have to
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I test drove an automatic Jetta GL TDI the other day for the first time. What a smooth engine for a diesel! I fell in love with it! It's so quiet and has enough power for highway cruising (had it up to 90) and passing as well, even with the AC on full blast. Definitely a surprise.
  • eetoreetor Posts: 10
    Yeh it's a pretty impressive engine with enough guts to keep up with traffic and sitll delivers insane fuel economy. We have a revie of it at and will have the GTI 1.8T next week and the 225TT after that. As far as I know the TDI engine should outlast the rest of the car - though it is important to be diligent about replacing the fuel filter.
  • scalscal Posts: 3
    I'm considering buying a new Golf TDI. Does anyone have any comments on reliabilty of these cars with higher mileage?
  • eetoreetor Posts: 10
    The very concept of owning a diesel is that you drive so much that the higher purchase cost is retrieved by puting huge mileage on the car. VW are notorious for electrical glitches but i know several people that literally drove VWs into the ground with over 200,000 miles on them.
  • davidmasdavidmas Posts: 12
    tdi engine drives great, gets great milage. but doesn't the maintenance cost overcome fuel savings? timing belt change w/auto tranny every
    40,000 miles?!! more frequent fuel filters, synthetic oil, turbo worries. is it worth it?
  • govugovu Posts: 62
    I wouldn't buy a TDI for saving -money- on fuel. It's a wash at best. I bought mine because I loved the way it drove, and I thought it would be more responsible to drive a car with great mileage. Besides, there is something to be said about the fun of only having to fill up every 500+ miles or so.

    I haven't had any second thoughts.
  • I have had my 1998 Jetta TDI for over 2 1/2 years and nearly 80,000 miles. The average fuel economy I have be getting since brand new 'til now has been 52.0 MPG. Any claims of MPGs in the 30's are completely bogus.
  • beaupsbeaups Posts: 6
    Tried to lease a Golf TDI auto today at Desert VW here in Las Vegas. The lowest they would go was 2k over msrp. They said people are buying them for that much and that they are hard to come by. However the Golf TDI in the showroom had 250 miles on it and the Jetta TDI I test drove had 350 miles. Seems like people are interested in the car but not in padding the dealers wallets. Anyone know where I could find one for MSRP?
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Try They have them on there for MSRP.
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