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  • floridianfloridian Posts: 219
    mzn: a lot of cars cannot be towed, not a drawback anyway. Most "wrecker" operators have "tilt-bed" trucks and simply winch it on board. much more desirable than being towed or loaded on a "dolly" type device.

    I have been looking at the 2000 Accentsa and am very impressed with the fit and finish and overall quality for such a inexpensive car.

    Floridian
  • jtnettjtnett Posts: 4
    After some research and much test driving, I just bought a 2000 Accent GS. I love it so far after only 200 miles. I've gone 175 city miles on half a tank which is far better than the 89 GMC Jimmy SUV I traded for it could ever do. My only concern is that the dealer had to look out of state for a GS w/ a 5-speed. He found a really sweet charcoal gray one with far more options than I originally wanted but I liked it anyway. Back to my concern - he had a driver pick it up and drive it 200 miles to here. I noticed there were suction cup marks where the driver undoubtedly used a radar detector. I'm concerned that the first 200 mile break-in limitations were not followed. Should I be worried?

    Also, I test drove several Metros (new and used, manual and auto), a Honda Civic DX, two Kia's and a Mazda Protege and the Accent was the best pick for me: style (I like conservative sportiness), options (CD, pwr steering, spoiler, custom floor mats, a/c, pwr windows and locks, intermittent front and rear window wipers, rear defog) and a killer warranty. I couldn't get near the Metro for what I paid for the Accent. The metro may get great mpg but, in my opinion, it has little else. I was going to order an Accent and the dealer offered me a program car off the lot until mine came in, and finally I get free lifetime oil changes every 3k miles. I couldn't pass it up. Well, yes I could have but there was a $500 rebate on top of my trade. So I'm satisfied for now except for the concern above so any comments on this are welcome. Thanks.

    Oh, I also found that the CD/radio is the temporary fix for the whistling and road noise :)
  • jtnettjtnett Posts: 4
    I hope you're still looking for some conversation about Accents. I'm willing to talk about as much as I know and I have more questions, like, has anyone put an aftermarket stereo in a late model accent? Is there much modification necessary? Is the whistling fix necessary? Where the heck is the cruise option?

    I'm sorry if I don't seem like the type to own a computer. My 75Mhz Pentium is still playin a mean Tiberian Sun and Chess game. MS Office 2k works great too. Even so, I might have to go get a new computer with all the money I saved on my new car (and gas).
  • mznmzn Posts: 727
    Thanks for the explanation, floridian! I appreciate it. I wonder if the cruise package means cruise control, jtnett.

    carlady/host
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    What did you end up paying for the car after tax, tag, and license? How much did they give you for trade-in? I'm curious as to what kind of deals 2000 Accent owners have been getting because I will be looking at that as my next car within 6 months. It seems like the best deal out there, though I would rather have the Elantra. Also, how is the power of the engine when mated to the stick and how does it shift? How does the optional CD stereo sound? Does the car feel solid, especially when you close the doors? How loud is the engine when accelerating and cruising?Thanks ahead of time for any input.
  • poconojoepoconojoe Posts: 42
    Thanks for owning a computer. I was just trying to stir up some conversation in a very slow forum. I enjoy conversing with other Hyundai owners. Thats why I include my e-mail address on my profile.

    As far as the whistling noise, it was worth it to me. The noise was annoying.
    I was thinking of getting aftermarket cruise. I drive 83 mi. each way to work and could use a leg rest.

    I have always been concerned about buying a new car with miles on it already. Nobody will baby it like you will during break in. There is a topic about "Break in periods" I think under the maintenance section. The opinions run from one extreme to the other.

    With the money I saved on the Accent my wife bought a Sonata.
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    Well, I am the proud and happy owner of a new 2000 Accent L hatchback. The only option on the car was A/C. Don't even bother asking what I paid for the car, cause I know I paid way too much for it. But the dealer was the first one that could finance me without a cosignor. Considering I have no car credit and am a 20 yr old college student, I am still in shock they sold me the car, though at a pretty penny. Anyway, this car is one solid car! The doors close with the same solid thunk of my mom's Honda. It drives ultra smooth and is peppier than I expected. The clutch is smoother and easier to engage than the Focus or Sephia I drove. The black color makes the car look sporty. The seats are very firm and comfortable, and the car is very quiet cruising down the road (the main thing heard is tire noise). The engine isn't even audible at idle and doesn't shake the steering wheel at all with the A/C on. The interior is well designed and is made of some very nice looking plastics. I could not even find a single production fault on the car. I think the whole crappy Korean car image, especially with Hyundai, is undeserved. Based on how solid the car feels and how well it drives, I have faith that it will last me for many years with little or no problems. The only complaint I have about the car is its ridiculously weak sounding horn. Overall, I think the Accent is a great buy, as long as you come prepared to buy a car, unlike me, LOL. As they say...

    Driving is Believing!!
  • jtnettjtnett Posts: 4
    Well, I'm over a thousand miles into my Accent experience and I'm still loving it! 1ngtonge18, sorry I didn't reply until after you bought your car but I think you made a great choice. I ended up paying $9900 out the door after getting a $2200 trade on my 89 S-15 Blazer. I think I could have done better (don't we all)if I would have read more on this website about dealing, but I got in a hurry and was intimidated by the dealer. Oops. I don't know how much lower I could've went but I'm satisfied for what I knew.
    As for the engine, there's not much power off the line. I see a lot of cars run up on me while I'm getting going. Then again, it isn't a race car and I've never owned such a small car but the Accent gets the job done. I am impressed with its ability to accelerate in 3rd, 4th, and 5th gears. It's smooth and quiet up to 65-70 mph. After that, the engine remains smooth but I can begin to hear it working although it isn't straining. I just finished the break-in period so I'm wanting to take it up over 70 mph to see whatit'll do.
    Shifting in and out of 1st and 2nd is slightly rough and I get a little grind every so often and sometimes it does not like to go into 1st from a stop, but all the other stick operations are smooth. I wonder if the grinding can be taken care of with an adjustment? I'm also not sure how smart it was to mount the alternator only an inch away from the catalytic converter. I think there's too much heat in that location.
    I'm also not sure I'd spend any extra money for the CD player. Mine skips and the rear speakers are way too cheap. I havent looked at the front ones yet. Does anyone know what size they are? Crutchfield says the back ones are 5-inch but my 5.25's fit prefectly. I'm in the process of buying a Sony Explod system to replace the factory one. On the good side, the factory radio pulls in a ton of stations. I wish it had more output power.
    What I'm truly amazed with is the gas mileage. I just went 370 in-town miles on 9.43 gallons. that's 39 mpg!!! I have pretty level roads and moderate stop and start but still. I think it's great!
    Poconojoe, is there an aftermarket cruise control for these cars?
    Gotta go for now.
  • poconojoepoconojoe Posts: 42
    I'm not sure if there is a aftermarket cruise because I haven't really looked into it yet. If anyone finds one, Please let us know. I wouldn't think there'd be many choices because Hyundai doesn't offer cruise as an option for the Accents.

    My 99' Accent now has 27k miles, and it seemed to break in and run better after about 12k. Gas mileage got better too. I like how it climbs hills in 5th gear, without downshifting.
    Also those Kumho tires are actually holding up pretty good for a brand I never heard of before. Still have decent tread left.

    As far as the shifting Jtnett spoke of, I never had that problem. I have noticed that it has a long throw shifter. When mine was new I would sometimes not fully put it into gear because I was used to my last car with a short throw. That would make a grinding sound. I quickly got used to this.
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    My first impressions of the Accent still stand at 600 miles. I was a bit disappointed with my first tank of gas as I only averaged 25.5 mpg. However, my second tank average jumped to 31.7, under the same mostly city driving. I was impressed, but I hope it continues to rise a bit more.
    I have discovered a few annoyances with the car. First, there is some kind of buzzing sound coming from the passenger side of the car, but I can't figure out what is causing it. I don't always hear it and it is a relatively soft noise, but it still aggravates me a bit. Second, the handling is too soft on this car. It begs for larger performance tires and the rear end feels skittish, like it is trying to swap ends on you (an odd feeling considering it is front drive). It definitely lacks the precision and firm euro handling of my VW GTI. I am wondering whether the sport suspension package that came on the Accent GT and Gsi models would fit the new 2000s. Anyone know whether it would?? I definitely would like to get the 14" alloys that came with the Gsi or the ones on the Elantra. I plan on adding the rear spoiler and alloy wheels as soon as I can get some money (possibly fog lights as well). I too am interested in adding cruise control! If anyone hears anything about how to add cruise, please let us know!! Overall, the Accent is a great car and I am glad I chose it instead of a used car, the tiny and less substantial feeling Metro, or the less known Daewoo. I would recommend this car to anyone on a tight budget in need of a well built, solid car.
  • baberbaber Posts: 96
    When I bought my 99 Accent Sedan last September the dealer told me they could install cruise control for $400. This must be an aftermarket cruise control since the other Hyundai dealer in my area wanted to send me to a place that specialised in aftermarket cruise control. I think $400 is just too much money right now. I use my Wife's Elantra for long family trips now. I drive 100 miles a day in my Accent and spend about 3 hours in the car, but most of this driving is city driving and I can't really use cruise control much. Got 21,000 miles on the Accent so far with no problems. Suprisingly comfortable car for the money. Well built too. Our 99 Accent and 99 Elantra are the only new cars I have bought that I didn't have to take back to the dealer to fix a factory defect. New cars I have owned in the past are Honda, Mercedes, and Subaru. Very impressive for such low priced cars. VERY good gas mileage even with the automatic trans. By the way the four speed auto in this car is really first rate. I got the auto trans so my wife could drive the car, but I am really happy with it. The AC is really strong too, important here in Florida.
    Scott
  • genes555genes555 Posts: 10
    i'm glad you enjoyed the links from the la times!

    i certainly do enjoy this site and really appreciate it!

    go edmunds!!!
  • mznmzn Posts: 727
    Thank you for the kind words, genes555.

    carlady/host
  • DDpianomanDDpianoman Posts: 2
    I have a 98 Accent GS that I bouhgt new 2 summers ago and currently have 39k on....It has been a gd car except for the tires, which although I rotated them accordingly, they had a nasty vibration since birth! So I replaced them and it was much better.... I just put new brakes on the car at 38k and it rides pretty much like when I bought it.. And it looks new! My main gripe now about the car is the trade in value.. Man it really didn't hold any value at all....I have only been offered $5200 as a high dollar amt in trade on a new one.. After I pd over 12k new, thats a crime... Be aware when you buy it, that this will happen.. I'm quite upside down. Have a grt summer
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    Hey all,
    Well, my pride in my new 2000 Accent was severely hurt today. I just returned from a 900 mile round-trip and was extremely impressed with the car's highway manners. It rides very comfortably for an economy car and was very quiet, even at speeds in excess of 80 mph. I averaged 35.7 mpg at a constant 80-85 mph over 340 miles. My main gripe with the car is its super sensitivity to grooves in the road. It requires you to keep correcting your path. I think its small 13" tires are too blame for its overly-sensitive steering.
    However, my feel good attitude about the car after the trip was quickly taken away when I heard a loud whining sound coming from my transmission, even though I was in neutral at a stoplight. I depressed the clutch and the sound immediately went away. As soon I released the clutch again, the noise came back. There was also a gritty feeling coming through the pedal when you put a small amount of pressure on it. In other words, my throw-out release bearing is shot! I have less then 2000 miles on my car!! I am disappointed to say the least. To replace this part more then likely requires pulling the whole tranny off my car. Even though it is covered under warranty, it is still a big hassle and could lead to other problems, such as leaks, if the dealer does not do a quality job. I am hoping this is just a fluke and not just the beggining of many problems. I also hope I did not make a mistake purchasing this car. I am taking my car to the dealer tomorrow for the first time to find out how long it will take them to get this part and how long it will be in the shop to get it fixed. I will let you know the outcome of my misfortune.
  • mike_rmike_r Posts: 1
    All right Everyone,
    Bought new Accent 3 Door hatch back in February.
    Beautiful to look and and beautiful to drive.
    Found it to be incredibly smooth and no noise from it.
    Took it through the suggested break in period and was quite surprised to see how well the Accent will perform on the motorway, higher speeds and still and smooth quiet ride.
    Cabin is great too although I feel the dash board is a bit bland. Everything is easy reach which I like but for a 2000 car I would have expected more, maybe a bit more styling but then I suppose it is called an economy car. The drivers seat is perfect and love the various settings. The clutch rest makes driving even more comfortable.
    I love the exterior styling of the car and think it's one of the better looking cars on the road this year.
    So what's the prob.
    Okay, have the windows open or partially open they tend to rattle.
    One the drivers side there is a vibration coming from the speaker, as if there is something loose.
    Also the gear stick has a grinding or rubbing noise.
    These problems I have had sorted out with the dealer and happy.
    But since, here's more.
    A really annoying vibration has developed from the
    underarea of the booth. Maybe the spare wheel, but further inspection shows it is not. Also when I am in second or third gear the engine gives off a vibration, and this too bothers me.
    These problems will again be inspected by the dealer and are covered under the warranty.
    I like the car a lot but if I fails to give satisfaction, maybe the next new car will be????
    Who knows. But Hyundai better live up to what they say they are. Lots of really good cars out there to choose from. I Want a Hyundai again but I suppose that is really up to Hyundai and not me.
  • tankone1tankone1 Posts: 1
    I Lied, i lied - i drive a Renault Savanna 21 '90 and not a Hyundai. I was intrigued to be given this web site address by a colleague, and to find that people could actually natter on about peculiarities and joys of owning a particular car.

    So, now i declare my innocence of ever wanting to purchase or own a renault car. At the moment i have a Renault 21 Savanna, drives like a baby sleeps, but schreeches like a bi ch when trying to stop. The inside is...burp, oops must have been designed by a French Portable Loo Vendor with no previous knowledge in car design. It does have electric windows not that they dont work or anything, but they do have up and down arrows on the buttons.

    The outside shape and shade looks similar in origin of the Guatimalian Humperback Elephants behind. Smells like one in the inside to!!

    The most likely thing to fail in this car is the steering rack if your ever considering buying one
    Over the years over 6000 has been spent repairing this bad excuse of a car.

    My overall vote, everyone buy porche so it will become an economical car!!

    By the Way - Thanks a million RENAULT!!!
  • bennj1979bennj1979 Posts: 8
    I'm a college student, in search of reliable transportation. Gas mileage, of course, is also an issue, as well as initial cost.

    As of right now, i'm driving a Hyundai Excel (1990) that I purchased at 135K miles from a dude that needed to sell it fast, for $450.00. At the time, the car look pretty nice, no crashes, burned a little oil, but, that seems to be Hyundai's weak spot. At any rate, it's got 141K miles on it, and still runs strong (though it's lost compression due to the seals). Aside from squeeks and rattles, I can't complain, gets me from A to B, but, with these newer inspection laws in New Jersey, basically, only new cars pass (noticed alot of classic cars for sale lately?).

    I've been shopping around for 2 weeks, and i'm at a stalemate: Hyundai, Daewoo, or Kia (which seems to be owned either wholly or in part by Hyundai Corp, look it up at www.hyundai.com). I need reliability, not comfort, though A/C is a must. I can't beat the gas mileage i'm getting out of my current Hyundai, about 48 mpg on the highway.. no joke, 12 bucks plus and i'm set for the week.

    Insurance companies are also reluctant to insure guys my age, 21, and i'm paying 1,200.00 a year for liability on my car now. I rated a Chevy Prizm 1998 at 2,552.00 a year for full coverage, it's not "high profile" like these other cars. I think any car, as long as it's taken car of properly, should last its original owner quite a while (with the exception of those freaky lemons).

    Interesting how Korea is beginning to take a bigger bite out of the compact car market in the US... okay, so, out of so many manufacturers, one of them has to be at least so-so... which one?
  • bennj1979bennj1979 Posts: 8
    Isuzu just beat Hyundai's warranty, try 10 year, 120K mile powertrain... that's on the Rodeo I think, but I can't afford that anyway.
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    Hey,
    I'm a 20 year old male and have a 2000 Accent. I think its a great car and is very comfortable and quiet for its price. It also is a nice looking car. I got the base L hatchback with the only option being A/C. I think thats the way you should go. I drove the Sephia but was not impressed with its quality as much as I was with Hyundai (the Sephia had very weak brakes, loud engine, annoying clutch engagement, and low fuel economy numbers). I also have driven the Daewoo Lanos(junky and cheap looking interior compared to the Hyundai, its warranty is not near as good). If you look up a few posts, you will see I was miffed about the noise coming from my tranny after a long distance trip. Well, the noise is intermittent now and it is the only problem I have encountered. The car came with no manufacturer defects. I was quite impressed with that. The noise has not affected the way the car drives and I am not too worried since I have plenty of warranty left. The one thing that sucks about the Accent is its acceleration at city speeds with the A/C on. Once you hit 50, the car hauls pretty good considering its 1.5 liter engine. It drives very solid at a steady 80-85 mph. Engine noise only begins to become intrusive around 90, the fastest I have taken it so far. I currently get around 36-37 mpg on the highway, though my engine is not fully broken in yet with only 2000 miles.
    As far as insurance is concerned, you need to shop around!! I live in Florida, and am paying roughly $1300 a year for full coverage with only a $500 deductible. Now, I am only covered for a piddling $20,000 an accident, but that should be enough unless you total the other guys car which would be hard in a small Hyundai. I have no accidents or points on my license; don't know if your record is as clean. Anyway, my insurance company is Atlanta Casualty if you are interested. Don't settle for the big name insurance companies!! They will just charge you ridiculously high prices because of your age. Good luck to you in your search!
  • queensmikequeensmike Posts: 1
    I've owned a 99 Accent L hatchback since Feb.99, and haven't had any problems.

    FAVORITE THINGS: The solid sound of the door when you close it. The stereo is surprisingly great for a budget auto. The fuel low indicator is nice, tho maybe all cars have that now. The passenger capacity is great for such a small car. Recently took 5 adults on a 2 hour trip, and everyone comfortable.

    WORST THING: Lack of height of windshield. I have to scrunch down to watch red lights. I'm only 5' 11'. It would be great if there were a way to lower the seat. Also, after about 45 mins, the seat becomes uncomfortable--tho I just discovered there's a lumbar support lever (driver only), and it does help. Those wooden bead thingys that cabbies use solve this too. Not such a problem for city use. Rattly window when partially open. Lackluster power, tho not bad if you go to high revs. Doesn't really want to go over 70, but I have only 6000 miles, so maybe not fully broken in. The ringing sound during acceleration bothered me a lot at first, but the dealer's mechanic said the part was functioning properly, and it doesn't bother me anymore. I may just call about the fix tho.
  • bennj1979bennj1979 Posts: 8
    Okay, i'm done trying to figure out what your username might mean... (hehe), anyway, funny how you mention that after 50 the acceleration seems better, I find the same thing with my old Hyundai, I mean, yeah, it's old and rattly, and cycling 1 - 4 takes a while, but once I hit that 5th gear, boy oh boy, you ain't never seen overdrive on a volkswagen like this (lol)... sucker just takes off into oblivion.. I guess the key word here is "momentum?"

    At any rate, I was asking around about Kia... most of the responses were, "Don't even bother..." then I asked about Hyundai, "Good warranty, try it," then I asked about Daewoo, and I got, "Well, if they build ships and automobile parts, and they've been doing it for years, they're probably not a bad car." Daewoo sounds nice, my only concern is the parts thing, I mean, so if I buy the darn thing, and take extra good care of it, fine, what happens like when it hits 60K mile mark, and my clutch goes out?... am I in a fix or what? Parts is definately a problem (even though they're probably so light and cheap, I can toss you the clutch and you can catch it with one hand.)

    Friend of mine from school who works with machinery and hydraulics told me, all those Korean car companies, esp. Daewoo are only going to get bigger in the US, probably taking up a large chunk of what Hyundai used to have, is this just wishful thinking or a strong possibility?... Maybe i'm overanalyzing, but when it comes to my hard earned $$$, I don't assume anything, i'm sure you know what I mean.

    We have one of the highest (if not THE highest) auto insurance rates in the country, for example, i'm paying $1,200.00 a year for liability on my current Hyundai. I also live in the worst auto insurance zone in the state, Hudson County (across from Manhattan) which means i'll be paying alot more automaticially due to where I live and park the car.

    Today I priced out a Saturn coupe (I hear that branch of GM are good cars, though they're styling is a bit too mid 90's for me, they're coupe looks like a restyled Camaro with that huge nose and 4 foot long doors), got like $2,300.00 for full (i'm financing), and about $2,500.00 for Hyundai Accent (all 2000 models). I haven't gotten the Daewoo quote yet, though it is expected to be around these ranges, now this is cheap.. I know because I tried 3 other companies, both private and state affiliated, and I get around $5,200.00 for full with other carriers.. pretty much exceeds the price of some used cars.. I went to get a 1998 Chevy Prizm for about $6K and the quote came back about the same.. I was like, "Holy ship."

    Most ppl say I can get it cheaper, but I doubt that, VERY MUCH... I can probably match it very closely, but not beat it.. i've tried. Friend of mine told me to try his company, Liberty Mutual or something... they still haven't gotten back to me those sons of guns...

    Will post later.
  • baberbaber Posts: 96
    I have Progressive Insurance and live in Florida I have $500 deductible $20,000 too. Costs me $580 a year for my 99 Accent sedan. I'm an old fart though. I love my 99 Accent. I spend 4 hours a day in it and I am comfortable. Put 23,000 miles on it since I bought it last September. No defects, no problems. I bought a 99 Elantra sedan for my wife last August. She has 11,000 miles on her's with no problems too. Niether car has been back to the dealer yet, just no need. I do the oil changes, and had a local tire shop rotate the tires. These are the only new cars I have bought that had no factory defects. The cars I have bought new are Honda, Subaru and Mercedes. This is VERY impressive for such low price cars. I bought my 99 Accent as a cheap econnobox. I was suprised to find I bought a REAL CAR. My 99 has a very solid feel for such a small car with suprising room too. Very stable at high speed even with heavy winds. I average 35 mpg mixed driving. The best I got so fat is 39 mpg, but I think I can break 40 mpg if I drive straight highway, this with the automatic. The 2000 is even nicer with more room and a nicer interior. The AC is great but really sucks the power from the engine. I would reccomend the Hyundai Accent and Elantra to anyone, great cars!!
  • bennj1979bennj1979 Posts: 8
    Thanks for the reply.

    I just found out that Daewoo is in bigtime debt, and will probably be selling out to someone like GM, or Ford, probably Ford from what I understand. I don't know what that will mean as far as parts go, but, I just did some research on the Saturns - they are American assembled, and have such a high saftey factor, it really shows up in premium quotes! They are a bit pricey for domestic, but then again, you get what you pay for I guess.

    Now, comming back to Hyundai, my experience leads me to believe that some people buy Hyundais that were made on Mondays and Fridays, while other people (like me) bought one that was made on a Wednesday. Maybe this isn't a fair thing to say, but, while some ppl hate the idea of driving a Hyundai, others (like myself) enjoy it. I think they're great dependable cars, and I feel sorry for those ppl that don't know how to take care of cars, like by letting the oil slip the 3000 (I do every 2000) mile mark for oil, until it ends up like Mississippi mud, or why they wonder they burn up seals or get premature knocking when they insistently had gunned the engine during its "break in" period unneccesarily.

    At any rate, I'm down to Hyundai, and Saturn, and though I have absolutely no time during the week for shopping (when offices are open) I don't know when I'll be able to get a better policy, as it is, i'm going to use my remaining credit on my current policy until I can get just the right price, and thanks for your help.

    Stay well.
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    I laughed so hard when you said you were trying to figure out what my screenname means! I guess I should tell you the story behind it since I got such a kick out of your response. First off, I should have formed a car related name for this forum, but I was afraid I would forget my login so I just used one of my screennames from AOL. I didn't realize I would like these forums so much and be visiting them daily. Anyway, the 18 in the name stands for age, though it has been 2 years since I formed the name. The rest stands for "long tongue". I got this idea from a friend of mine who used to always call me Tongueman in high school, because I have an unusually long tongue. I was kind of a freak show in high school. Everyone knew me as "the kid with the long tongue". My one and only claim to fame, pretty sad don't ya think? LOL
    Anyway, I would stay away from Saturn. Their only real strong point is their good dealer service, and not every dealer is that way. I have been visiting the Saturn forums and many people have had rather premature engine problems even though they changed the oil every 3000 miles (one guy was told he needed a complete lower engine rebuild after only 82K miles and he was religious with oil changes;it cost him $2500) and many complain of annoying rattles in even one year old cars. From my own experiences, even brand new Saturns rattle when you shut the door. The interiors are horribly cheap looking and the door slams with a tinny sound (caused by the famous plastic panels). The drivers seat sits real low in the car and does not provide much support. It was very uncomfortable to me. The rear seat sucks too. Overall, the Saturns are way too high priced for what you get. They are not a very good value. You end up paying about the same price as you would for a Honda Civic if you know how to haggle. In other words, probably way out of your price range.

    Lastly, I now understand why your insurance rates are so high. You have now convinced me to steer clear of that area when I graduate from college and start looking for a place to work. Talk about high costs of living! Good luck in your search.
  • bennj1979bennj1979 Posts: 8
    I visited a local Saturn dealer a few miles from where I live today. The visit was brief, I have no time, and of course, it's the 5th day straight of rain for us in North New Jersey.

    The visit was nice, I mean, all that stuff they say about going into a Saturn dealer is true. The cars seem nice too. I'm not too picky when it comes to all those things you mentioned "long tounge," however, yeah, the seat is low, maybe too low to see certain things, and i'm 6'0"!

    The best deal he could get me (for my price range) was a 1997 SC2, or something, 4-speed auto, leather, cruise, etc, for $9995.00. Brace yourself for the mileage: 29,000 miles. What I don't understand is this, this car probably had one owner, and that owner lived in Jersey City, because they left the parking permit on the fender which I read. Why is it at a Saturn dealer lot if these are supposed to be such good cars? I turned it on, but didn't drive it, again, it was dark already. No problems there. I dunno, i'm sort of wary though, the dealer, though mild mannered and patient, didn't see what I was trying to get at, I wanted a vehicle as new as possible for a $10K limit, he seemed more concerned in selling me supped up packages, which I didn't need.. What college student needs leather and in dash CD?.. sure, it's nice, but even at low prices, one must wonder what the dealer is thinking when your walking thru the lots, passing by, what may be good deals for you, only to look at picked out cars?... HIS picks.

    I dunno, i'm at my last straw... i'm thinking Hyundai now. I know I can get a new one, stripped, only with A/C for under $10K. What do you think?
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    Why pay 10 grand for a 3 year old Saturn that may have been traded in because the owner was having problems with it when you could buy a brand new Hyundai with an extrememly long warranty that will cover any problems you encounter for up to 10 years? You do sacrifice some luxury, but like you said, you have no need for big luxury items like leather and the more options on a car, the more things there are to break. Once you have graduated from college and established your credit, you can always trade up to the nicer, more luxurious cars. Thats the way I see it. I only plan on keeping my Accent for a year maybe 2 years max. As soon as I have a good job, I plan on trading up to an Elantra, Tiburon, or another car company. I see the Accent as basic transportation to get me where I need to go and establish the credit I need to get ahead in life. Since I do all my own maintenance and am very leery of used cars, I would shy away from a used car that costs the same as a new one. Who knows how the car was taken care of and whether you will run into problems that has no warranty to cover them. Anyway, thats my advice, but the decision is yours. It all depends on how much of a risk you are willing to take.
    If you do decide to go with the Accent, I would not buy one that does not already have factory A/C on it! I almost made that mistake. The dealer tried to charge me $1300-1500 to add it to the car when I found one on the lot that was the same exact color and model but had the factory A/C for only $750!! In other words, they were going to rip me off $600 of my hard earned money. So don't fall for their games and only buy one that already has it. If your credit is already established, you might want to try and buy one from www.Carsdirect.com They often offer cars for below dealer invoice and can save you hundreds of dollars!
  • bennj1979bennj1979 Posts: 8
    I visited the same Saturn dealer today, determined to walk away with something.

    I test drove one, and dealt with another (somewhat snobby salesperson). I drove one of the 4-door S-Series sedans. It was apparently a trade in or something. It was like a 1996 with 71K, and I must tell you, the ride wasn't bad at all, and the car handled itself fairly - I wasn't too impressed, it's not a 2001 Cadillac or anything. However, it was a good ride, and I blasted the engine, slammed the breaks, and everything in between. The only problem I found was braking suddenly, for some reason, the wheel (and steering column) shook violently, i'm assuming it was the brakes, they were very squeeky, and the salesperson said, they didn't have time enough to inspect the car, it had just come in recently.

    Though for the most part, they are probably very good cars, (though slightly overpriced for DOMESTIC) I think they do not make very good "starting out" cars, unless your daddy has the dollars to shell out for a new one, in that case, more power to you. But for the rest of us real people, the Saturn doesn't make sense for my age range-college student type deals. Not at all. Sorry GM.

    My last resort is the Hyundai dealer (LoL). I know I can get financed, even without a cosigner, though that might help my standing as far as credit goes, Saturn wanted a cosigner. Your making perfect sense, Long tounge, and that is exactly what I asked myself today, do I really need a 3 year old off lease car that has been thru Heaven and Hell's gates? Not really. I think a Hyundai might last just as long. Koreans aren't new to the concept of "economy" in a country financially strapped and polictically burdened... sounds the like U.S. eh?

    Well, i'm overall pleased with my efforts - for over 2 weeks, I studied Kia, Hyundai, Saturn, and a whole crap load of other cars, and their parent companies - I think i'm not going wrong here, not to mention my rich uncle suggested I go with Hyundai, he's rich now, but he was like me at one point so I'll take his advice (he's not really rich, just very happy let's say).

    Hey, you think I can get a loyalty rebate out of my Excel?... like maybe $50 bucks? Hehehe
  • bennj1979bennj1979 Posts: 8
    Check out the English Hyundai homepage, you'll find that these guys produce interesting non-U.S. models, like one called the XG, it almost makes Cadillac look like a hot wheels toy (LoL), though I didn't compare them. I did compare the Mistubishi Montero to the Hyundai Galloper, when I noticed the mirrors are amlost exactly identical, hard to tell from a screen with low res. Coincidence?... I compared those two, they are similar, but the Galloper is underpowered compared to the Montero, but it is suprising to find that though... Just giving you the FYI.
  • slava1slava1 Posts: 5
    I just had my alternator replaced under warranty on my 99' Accent hatchback auto after my airbag warning light came on a couple of times. Turns out the alternator was overcharging the battery. I wonder if it has something to do with the fact that I try to warm up till RPM hits 1000 every time the car's cold. Other than that the only problem is rattles and squeks coming from everywhere. Otherwise, I love my Accent.
    Slava.
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