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  • Thanks for the replies. Will be test driving one in the near future; kind of excited about it. Be nice to get back shifting a standard transmission, since my 84 Mazda GLC. I would hope the shifting would be as easy and simple as it was.
  • FWIW I leased the Soul last week - ! (exclaim), Premium. I REALLY like it. I leased it as a business vehicle - as it is a rolling box I am having it wrapped. Turns out I like it far more than I thought I would. I admit, I'm a bit of a car snob (I just got my 5 Series last April). Yeah, the 5 has some "standard" features you can't get on the soul, like power seats and of course my beloved heated steering wheel, and the 5 rides very zen-like - The Soul on the other hand is MUCH lighter - so the 164 hp engine that could is zippy - it's only 2 wheel drive (nice big 18" wheels), decent 6 speed transmission, and I LOVE the glowing speaker lights (love it or hate it i guess).
    The heated seats work fairly well. The power folding mirrors are fine. Moonroof, check. All in all, I really like the Soul - far more than I thought I would.
    I ultimatley won't be driving it at work, however for those times that I do, well, I won't mind - and in fact, I kind of look forward to it.
    I will post separately on the GPS...
  • Hi All,
    I'm hoping some folks can chime in and help me - I got my Soul one week ago today - and REALLY like it.
    the GPS voice started out perfectly, and the second day I drove it, it intermittently went from very clear to sounding garbled. At times i thought i heard static, as is from a loose connection. when the voice would get garbled, the chime would also sound horrific - almost like cat scratch on blackboard bad. At times i'd bang the center console and the voice would go back to perfect, however the last time it happened, well, it never went back to perfect.
    I brought it to the dealership and left it for the day, and they said nothing was wrong.
    After I complained, they had one of their techs come in the car with me and he agreed it didn't sound right.
    Today, I spoke with the service manager - he claims he had reached out to Kia engineering, and also checked the other souls on the lot, and they all sounded like this, it is a known software issue, and they are going to do a major software upgrade "at some point in the future" to add UVO, etc.
    I told him (respectfully) that while there may be software issues, I'm pretty sure I'm experiencing a hardware issue - either a loose connection, or something else.
    1) anyone else experience issues with the voice being unclear and the chime sounding awful?

    Also, today the GPS lost it's fix on the road even though it showed a solid satellie signal (the compass needle was red) - it had me going through people's yards, and for 5 minuteds woudln't correct even after some turns. THAT I do believe is a software issue - just wondering if anyone else experienced.

    i thought about complaining to kia corporate - i really do think the service manager was blowing me off - and i don't want to wait 3 months or however long for a software upgrade that i really think won't fix my issue.
    any thoughts appreciated - if i had more time i'd go there and demand to hear the gps on a different car to compare. thanks again for any responses.
  • chevy3400chevy3400 Posts: 6
    edited February 2013
    Went to a local dealer and checked out the 2013. Friendly salesman, low pressure, and could answer every question, I launched at him. Looking at the Base, the price is attractive at $15489 (US) with a 1.6L, 6 speed standard transmission, steel rims ( which I prefer), keyless lighted entry, power windows, bluetooth, and it did have the 6 speaker radio. The automatic was $2000 dollars higher and had a few more features like heated power mirrors. Went there looking for a standard, so that's what we took on the road. Salesman peeling the paper off the hood, we took it around the parking lot a few times, and proceeded on the road. The heater was pumping warm air in a couple minutes. Their were no air leaks from any of the door seals. ( cold climate). Surprised me in the amount of power the motor was giving us. Salesman said they had improved the fuel injection system as the Koreans are fast to act on prior low power complaints. The transmission shift was smooth and clutch linkage was very user friendly. The first gear was a little faster, than I expected. Handling was another pleasant surprise. Fairly tight on the turns, and recovered nicely on abrupt, sharp turn of the wheel. The electric steering was giving me enough road feel, and was comfortable from what I'm use to. I did noticed a few things on negitives. ( have a 30+ year mechanical back ground) The tires were 195 65R 15, and the treadwear rating was a mere 440, which is low, maybe 40,000 mile. The underneath of the uni body is already under coated, which I question about thickness of the metal, rust through. The channel rear main beam, which could hold salt and contamination rusting through in 5 years or less. The doors had to be shut harder, as the seals held them out. ( this could be a + as they might seal better) I also question some of the size of the wires, as the gauge look a little light.( remember a past Korean chevy, that had light wiring issues) All in all, the Soul did impress me. It was fun to drive. We were not able to make a deal this day, but wouldn't rule out future purchase.
  • sounded great, thanks for sharing. I like the look of the Soul a lot, just need to pluck up the courage and go and test drive (I have had bad experiences with car buying)
  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,682
    tested the auto tranny model last week and was quite impressed. Ingress/egress was great so I understand while many older folks purchase this rig. Comfortable seating with terrific vision all around it. Good brakes, responsive acceleration, dash layout was just o k and the switchgear was just mediocre but acceptable. Overall, I'd give this vehicle an 80 out of 100 score. Seemed a bit plain jane inside and other import interiors do a more commendable job. Might consider this as a possible next vehicle if they improve the interior and have an option for 16" tires...these seem to be a great compromise since 15" are just too small and 17" are way too big...16" is the sweet spot for great handling and road feel. Do this Kia and I'd look. Need to try the Sportage actually as it might be just what I'm looking for!

    The Sandman :) :sick: :shades:

    2014 Hyundai Tuscon SE/2005 Mazda 3s/2008 Hyundai Accent GLS/2009 Nissan Versa SL hatch

  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    Bit puzzled on your comments, do you not realize that the model you tested is only the base model, you can upgrade the interior and also get 16" tires by moving up to the next model. Not sure which country your located but in the US it would be the + model and in Canada the 2u model.

    Here's the 16" tires and rims:
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  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,682
    My salesguy was pretty lame actually...he knew i wasn't buying today so he showed minimal interest in me as a customer. He never even discussed different models which was foolish on his part. No brochure, no nothing. Stupid salesman really, as I'd never throw any business his way because of his attitude. He had no idea that maybe, just maybe I'd have a change of heart and want the Soul and return to buy it. Even when I was all over the red Rio in the showroom, he did nothing, not even ask if I wanted a brochure on that car. But I guess he knew I was not a ready buyer. But I wouldn't buy from his store anyways. Would go to the dealer across town. Did that with the Versa for the kid. These folks had our car but they wouldn't deal and asked the wife for a ridiculous price. Went across town, made the guy a fair offer, he accepted. We told him where this car was and he did a dealer trade. Two days later it's parked in our driveway, period. When I, we're ready to buy, we are ready. If one store won't deal, I find another that will. Has happened on the last couple of purchases. These same guys were price stupid when I bought my Civic. Went to a nearby dealer and did the deal. History repeated itself twice here.

    The Sandman :) :sick: :shades:

    2014 Hyundai Tuscon SE/2005 Mazda 3s/2008 Hyundai Accent GLS/2009 Nissan Versa SL hatch

  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    the 2014 model will be introduced at the New York Auto show on March 27th (press day)
  • We'll after much consideration, bought a 2013 Base MT on March 1st. The hold out was my trade in, but they finally gave in; NOT. The vehicle is very fun to drive. It has put pleasure back into driving. On the 3rd tankfull of gas, averaging 28.7 MPG, around town, using the old fill up, mileage method. I'm very happy with that, considering Kia rating of 27 MPG. Didn't come with keyless entry, as previous mention. Dealer installed that to make the deal. Now I'm working on the fog- running light installation.
  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    edited March 2013
    just announced this morning at the NY Auto Show

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  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    - 2.4” wider opening of the lift gate
    - will be available in 7 new exterior hues including the two at NY Solar yellow and Inferno Red
    - ideas taken from the Track'ster – large trapezoidal lower air intake and fog light location and the and the “floating” body color panel inset into the lift gate and also lifting as many of the Track'ster's circular interior reference points as possible
    - liberal use of expansion foam thoroughly fills body cavities, reducing outside wind and road noise
    - reinforced isolation pad in the cargo area and poly-urethane-layered carpet helps reduce overall interior noise levels by approximately 3 decibels.
    - Built on a all-new chassis that is nearly 29% stiffer than before
    strengthening the body at key connection points along the cowl, upper and lower B-pillars, cross members and at the C-pillars
    - fully 66% of the chassis utilizes either Ultra High Strength Steel (35%) or high strength Steel (31%)
    - A-pillar is 0.8” narrower for improved outward visibility
    - application of structural adhesive around the door openings and along the roof also helps improve torsional rigidity
    - heavily revised front and rear suspension, the front sub-frame utilizes four bushings to reduce ride harshness and impact booms over rough pavement
    - the stabilizer bar has been moved rearward on the McPherson strut front suspension, while the steering box has been moved forward, lending better balance and subsequently improved handling and benefits to on-center feel
    - one-piece steering gear housing is stronger (current two piece), improving steering response and reducing impacts felt through the wheel
    - optional Flex Steer, allow the driver to select 3 distinct steering settings – comfort, normal and Sport
    - shocks on the rear torsion bar suspension have been turned vertically and lengthened allowing for more suspension travel and improving ride comfort
    - 2.0L NU power plant is updated with GDI technology
    - both engines have been tuned to provide more low-end torque (9% more torque at 1500 rpm on the 2.0L and 5% more on the 1.6L)
  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,682
    These new pics look great and it seems the Soul is aging very nicely especially the nicer interior, a major improvement over the current model. Drove one the other night from West Palm to Miami airport and it was just o k...a bit loud but hopefully they have addressed that issue with the new 2014 model. The seat fabric was just o k and hopefully this will be addressed to. The whole vehicle needs to be updated so it is competitive with other vehicles in this econocar segment. I really like the higher roof line and bet Kia could sell so much more once they "mature" this vehicle and make it more mainstream so more will put it on their short lists. I definitely would if they put some more lux into it and smooth out the ride. They really should check our the Chrysler 200, yes, the Chrysler 200 to see how smooth a car can ride...this vehicle is a real sleeper as it does everything well. Sure it's very bland looking but it rides so nicely and everything in it just "works"!

    The Sandman :) :sick: :shades:

    2014 Hyundai Tuscon SE/2005 Mazda 3s/2008 Hyundai Accent GLS/2009 Nissan Versa SL hatch

  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    Attention HOST: - why is my threads getting relocated to one main thread, just makes it that much harder to find anything when everything is group under one heading, doesn't happen on your other threads - why just on the Soul?
  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 5,896
    We've never broken down a make/model by model years. This comes from long experience. For example, if someone is looking for information about tire and wheel issues with a certain model, we have no need for separate discussions for 2011, 2012, etc. when one general tire and wheel discussion will suffice. We wind up WAY too many discussions and it makes things much harder for users to wade through. It happens on all makes and models, not just here.

    Your pics of the 2014 are great, but certainly belong as part of the the general Kia Soul discussion. The Soul group is relatively new and hasn't developed a lot of issue/problem discussions yet, but I'm certain it will.

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  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    not really a fair comparison when you consider the size of the 200, with a 8" longer wheelbase and 28" longer overall length and 600-800 lbs heavier, I think the ride would be different. (wonder how the ride on the 200 compares to the Optima, which is the more comparable model in the KIA lineup)
    But it will be interesting to see the improvements in this regard when the model arrives at dealerships - I will be test driving one to see how it compare to my 2012 model :)
  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
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  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    latest is third quarter, which can be from July to September. As of the end of May it does not appear the 2014 has gone into production (based on production figures), June figures will not be available till mid-July, once it goes into production is usually takes from 6-8 weeks before you will see them at dealerships, depending, of course where in North America you are located.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,709
    at the Kia Soul. 6-speed manual tranny and tha Molten color. White stripe from front down the back, too? Just lookin', of course. ;)

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    I have some details on the 2014 Canadian Soul, so if anyone is interested just post your question.
  • yyqyyq Posts: 2
    DETROIT -- Six of 12 small cars performed well in front-end crash tests conducted by an insurance industry group, but some popular models fared poorly in the safety evaluations.
    Only the two-door and four-door Honda Civic models earned the top rating of "good" in the tests done by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety. The Dodge Dart, Ford Focus, Hyundai Elantra and the 2014 Scion tC got "acceptable" ratings.
    But popular models such as the Chevrolet Cruze and Sonic and the Volkswagen Beetle got "marginal" ratings, while the Nissan Sentra and the Kia Soul and 2014 Kia Forte each were rated "poor."
  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    just set up on their website, some detail info on the new Soul, but no MSRP yet

    http://www.kia.com/us/en/vehicle/soul/2014/experience?story=hello
  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    Base MT - $14,700 (2013 $14,400)
    Base AT - $16,700 ($16,200)
    Plus AT - $18,200 ($17,700)
    Exclaim AT - $20,300 ($19,900)
  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    I have full details on the 2014 Canadian Soul, any specific questions, just post.
  • ksmoksmo Posts: 2
    edited October 2013
    I see conflicting or vague information on this so hopefully someone can clear it up for me.

    For 2014, can you get a stick shift in the + model, and if so does the stick shift plus come with cruise control? In other words, can you get a manual transmission Soul with factory cruise in 2014?

    Thank you.
  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    simply answer - no, it was dropped for 2014 due to low demand (about 1%) Check out this site
    http://www.kia.com/us/en/vehicle/soul/2014/experience?story=hello
  • Ok, thank you. Probably rules it out for me, then. Appreciate it.
  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    your welcome, maybe as an alternative the all new 2014 Forte 5, will have MT in their new SX turbo version. Full details, except pricing is available here

    http://www.kiamedia.com/us/en/models/forte5/2014/features

    Did you know you can manual shift the 6-speed auto in the Soul?
  • Cool, was not aware of the turbo manual Forte 5 for '14. I will check it out.
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