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Volkswagen EuroVan

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  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    No, the Sharan is not designed for the North American market and will probably not meet our safety or emission standards.
  • jimjpsjimjps Posts: 146
    The Caravelle is the long-wheelbase "Eurovan". It has a 130" wheelbase and is about 204"
    long. This is the vehicle that Winnebago converts to the Eurovan Camper for the US Market.
    So you can buy it, but only with all the Camper equip in teh US. In Germany you can
    also get the ironically named "California Generation" camper, this has all the camper goodies in the regular wheelbase model - and a 6-speed manual tranny.
  • mrnimmomrnimmo Posts: 271
    Is any passenger (as opposed to any cargo or multivan/camper) "Eurovan" sold in Europe:


    http://www.vw-nutzfahrzeuge.de/


    Vanagons were also called Caravelle.

  • mrnimmomrnimmo Posts: 271
    I limited my response to Europe. That's wrong. In most other countries the passenger Eurovan is called Caravelle.

    In most other countries, commercial/cargo Eurovans are called Transporters. Just like the old days. The long wheel base cargo vans would be a Transporter.

    T4 is the designation for the current Transporter/Caravelle family. Vanagon was T3. Etc.
  • hotx3hotx3 Posts: 71
    My wife wants to "do" Europe, and loves to camp here in the states. Why doesn't VW offer a camping van or MV with a European delivery plan? It would heat up the market for the new Microbus among all of us who remember the '60s. Why don't they offer ANY kind of EDP?
    -Don
  • richcolorichcolo Posts: 81
    My guess is that VW doesn't have any EDP because the Eurovan is the only VW model sold in the US that isn't manufactured in Mexico. Eurovan numbers are probably too low to justify setting up a program. Also, I may be wrong, but I thought the "Weekender" vans were modified after arriving in the US. Maybe I'm getting the "Weekender" mixed up with the Winebego Rialto.

    If the Weekender is completed in Europe, I think a EDP would increase the appeal of the package.

    Just my $0.02
  • hotx3hotx3 Posts: 71
    The Winnebago and the Weekender are two different packages. I think the Weekender is finished in Germany.
    A separate program for a model that only sells a few thousand here is hard to justify... they'd almost have to get Audi to slip the Eurovan into its EDP.
    Still, I'd love to do it, and it's probably the only way I'd end up in a Eurovan here in the States.
    Well, with F&M, it'll probably be 2002 anyway.
  • georgek44georgek44 Posts: 81
    Ironic that VW is using the name Caravelle. That's what Renault called its answer to the VW Karmann Ghia. Sold in the US in the late 1950's, it was a pleasantly styled two seat convertible built on the rear-engine Dauphin platform.
  • zavfejzavfej Posts: 13
    Someone asked where they could see this "interesting sounding machine". Go to "VW.com" and select "EuroVan" and then "Other EuroVan Stuff" and you can view a few different aspects of the EV.
    I called VW HQ and there is a delay in Germany (where, btw, the Weekender is modified) concerning the tires. Wrong ones put on at plant; VW and (I think) Michelin are "working it out", so it could be months till we see anything. I have my VID and confirmed its sitting on a dock there...bummer. Sold my other car...
    I read somewhere that the Sharon was some sort of a joint venture with Ford, and there are agreements that VW would not sell it here in the states.
    Someone asked where in Bergen Cty can they find a dealership that has a 2001 EV...no where.
    Agin, the VW website allows you to "find a dealer" and I did a 150 mile sweep, called everyone and the lack of knowledge about this vehicle is astounding. Well, I guess that when the total amount sold nationwide was under 2500 last year, it explains why no one at the dealers (at least the sales reps I spoke with) have any idea whats up with this unique Van.
    I'll let you know when I get mine...someone in Colorado reported in YahooGroups that he received his and it was incredible. He used the word "fast" to describe it. Isn't that an oxymoron when used with a VW Van??
  • jjgittesjjgittes Posts: 54
    Contacted two local VW dealers about getting a new weekender at the supposedly reduced price. Very wierd responses. They truly seemed uninterested in selling this vehicle. I don't get VW. I have many friends who would be interested in an RV type vehicle that could be used as a second car. VW's odd attitude and past overpricing has deprived it of cornering a potential market. Their loss, I guess.
  • It sure is hard finding one around LA. Are there any with the weekender option to be had out there?

    Thanks
  • mrnimmomrnimmo Posts: 271
    You're just catching on?

    I'm convinced that VWoA exec's attempted to take one of those Japanese management seminars, but accidentally ended up in a kamikaze history show instead. They've been flying there company into the ground ever since.

    We've told them for years we want Beetles. Especially ragtop beetles. And Eurovan's. Especially poptops, diesels, and manual tranny models.

    They sent us Rabbit's, and Dashers.

    Recently VWoA's products have been vastly improved. Hopefully, the will soon make rational marketing decisions regarding transporters, Urovan or New Bus.
  • No kidding. I've been calling every VW dealership within 75 miles of Boston for the past several weeks inquiring about the Eurovan, and the best I've heard is that it's "on the dock and should be here in a couple weeks". I even asked for a brochure from VW 0f A and haven't seen that yet. I got tired of the runaround and ordered an Acura MDX that I'll see in October. If the Eurovan comes in before that I'd love to see it, but I'll probably never know because none of the dealers I spoke to bothered to take my number!
  • mrnimmomrnimmo Posts: 271
    isn't it? Can you imagine how well you will be treated when you bring a Eurovan in for service? VW has been selling just a thousand or so of these a year, most in California and Washington (the State). The dealership that doesn't care to sell you a Eurovan probably doesn't have a mechanic that has ever seen a Eurovan. You will have to pay $75+ an hour to teach him or her to fix your van.


    I'm holding out for a passenger Sprinter.


    http://www.mercedes-benz.com/e/ecars/transporter/sprinter/allrad/transp_allrad_sprinter.htm


    It's being imported this summer. Narrow and tall, like a Eurovan. Diesel engine gets 30mpg+. See


    http://www.sprintersavvy.com/


    The site only shows the ugly tall roof vans, but low roofs will be made after the plant fills the large order from Fedex.


    And rumors are that Vito will replace the Caravsparetrannyvan/Voyager/T&C. We can only hope...


    http://www.mercedes-benz.com/e/ecars/transporter/vito/modell.htm


    Bigger vans has remained the domain of the Detroit3. There is no reliable and (relatively) economical bigger van on the market. I wondered how long it would take for Toyota to enter the market. Or VW to make a serious attempt. It seems ChryslerBenz will be the first.


    I started a Mercedes thread, but no one seems interested.

  • 98buggy98buggy Posts: 1
    I also have been looking for a 2001 Eurovan GLS in the Boston area and have found nothing. They are all at the port and are suppose to be released in about a month (for VW it will probably be 2-3 months). I've had this same thing happen to me when I bought my 98 New Beetle TDI. I waited and waited. I went to my local dealer a few days ago and they did have a brochure. Not much of one though, a fold out poster, but its a start. My local dealer does want to sell me a Eurovan, but I know some dealers will not.
  • zavfejzavfej Posts: 13
    We just received news that our Weekender is arriving in Delaware Monday 4/9, and to our dealer a week after that. We'll believe it when we see it, but this time it seems real.
    I called VWoA HQ and spoke with some folks there; I was told that there was a tire issue that needed to be worked out between VW and (they thought) Michelin. It is apparently resolved now.
    I will post my driving impressions in a few weeks (I hope!)
  • jjgittesjjgittes Posts: 54
    The Mercedes Vito Marco polo looks great. I hope they bring it to the usa and kick VW with its goofy attitude re: the EV/weekender right in the ..... Only problem, the Vito will probably sell for the price of a 26 foot winnebago. Oh well, it's not like VW gives away its silly ev's either.
  • mrnimmomrnimmo Posts: 271
    it will be as a replacement for the Dodge Caravan/Voyager/ T&C, wearing the appropriate Chrysler badges and appropriate price tags. MB will not bring Vito as a its own product, just as it did not bring Sprinter under its own name plate. MB wants to remain a high end marque on these shores.

    Vito Marco Polo (camper) and Vito F (weekender) are converted by a company some of you may have heard of, Westphalia.
  • mthaslammthaslam Posts: 2
    To any 2000 EuroVan owners (no 2001's available yet!) need your help on towing capabilities of the EuroVan.

    I have always owned VWs(Golf, Jetta, Rabbit and even the Rabbit Pickup) but my second car is a Dodge Grand Caravan Mini van. Just picked up a 2001 Golf in exchange for my 1990 Jetta Now looking to exchange my Dodge for a EuroVan (2001).

    According to the 2001 EuroVan Specs, it has a towing capacity of 4400 pounds, yet it only has a 2.8L V6, 201HP, 181 lb-ft torque engine (... the 2000 EuroVan has a smaller engine and less torque).

    The question is: Does anyone pull a 3500 pound trailer with a 2000 EuroVan, and if so... do you find the EuroVan meeting the 4400 pound towing capacity expectations? Can you go up a hill without getting out to push..?

    What I find difficult to rationalize, due to the fact that I can not find one to test drive or find someone who pulls a trailer with a Eurovan, is that the 2001 Dodge Grand Caravan has a 3.8L V6, 215HP, 245 lb-ft torque engine with only a 3800 pound towing capacity. Yet, the EuroVan has 4400 pound towing capacity with a 2.8L V6, 201HP, 181 lb-ft torque engine....smaller engine, less torque but more towing capacity...?

    My fear is that the EuroVan will be a great mini van, but will be disappointing when it has the trailer on the backend.

    ...As you can tell I need a vehicle that can tow a large trailer across country and not just on the flat roads from the dealer to my house.

    ...any feedback would be appreciated.....would love to stick with VW's....

    P.S. My dealer tells me that the 2001 MV weekenders are packaged in Germany, and that the MV weekenders have not arrived in the USA, however the GLS and base MVs have arrived and are in Port in Houston, Texas.

    As for brouchers...good luck....I have ordered three times from the VW web site...with no response....

    Mark.
  • I just got quoted $29,911 for the subject vehicle, deliverable in 5
    weeks. How does this compare to what others are getting?

    Thanks for feedback.
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