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  • mrnimmomrnimmo Posts: 271
    this is a nice additional resource for those of you with questions about the eurovan

    http://www.egroups.com/group/ev_update/info.html
  • dplehndplehn Posts: 1
    The dealer is offering a 2000 MV for 29,200. Good deal?
  • mrnimmomrnimmo Posts: 271
    Last MV on my local VW lot was being sold for around $27000. That was on the window... new van. I'm sure they weren't going to lose any money, but they may have not been making any.

    You need to look at the new car section of edmunds to calculate their real cost. Basically add up base price, shipping, and all your options. Then deduct holdback (I don't think Vw has any). Also check edmunds rebate pages. This will tell you how much the vehicle costs. You should be able to drive it off for $500 more.

    Good luck. Post the accessories if you need help coming up witht the price.
  • It might be interesting for you to know the prices for these products where they are made. In Germany a top MV (2.5 TDI with the most powerful engine) will sell list for 62879 DM without tax. Anybody of course can knock down this price for cash. At the present level of the dollar to the euro it could well be worth a look. By the way - virtually nobody in Germany would even consider a petrol driven version: the TDI is popular because of it´s parsimony with diesel. As to exotic - I defy anyone to drive 500 mtrs (or yards if you must) in Hamburg without seeing at least 3 of these cars.
  • mrnimmomrnimmo Posts: 271
    Dealers have a $3000 incentive right now. See the link (near the very end)

    http://www.edmunds.com/edweb/Incentives.html

    So the math goes like this
    Dealer price $29722
    + $590
    - Incentive -3000
    - Holdback -626 (2% of the Base MSRP)
    Equals 26686

    You should be able to get the car for 350-500 over this...
  • Karen_CMKaren_CM Posts: 5,018
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  • What a crushing blow we experienced!! We have raised our three kids since 93 in our wonderful Eurovan. We got so spoiled by the room that the high price tag of repairs were secondary. Feeling our 150,000 mile van may not be the most realible to travel 8 hour trips in, we embarked on our search for a 2000 MV Eurovan. The technology of the net was grand. We located a 2000 gorgeous blue Mv Euro, with only 11,000 miles and a good price of 25,000. That took care of the high price that had scared us off since they came on the market. We put a deposit on it and drove 2 1/2 hours to get our dream car. We sadly ended up walking away, resigned to making our 93 last to the bitter end. I had my 6'5" husband sit behind the wheel.(head clearence is a very important feature for us) B. could fit behind the wheel, if he straddled the steering wheel with his knees. If he tried to move his foot from the gas to the brake, his knee hit the steering wheel. B. is mostly tall in the waist. It's not the legs as much. We even pulled out the back seat that abutted the driver seat, but the seat locks only so far, seat in or not.
    Our second realization was that the rear facing captain chairs only have lap belts. The seat closest to the sliding door sure appears to be a real danger. The table was a little disappointing too. We thought it would be great for the kids to play games on during long trips.
    If you start a trip with the table down, the person sitting in the captain chair would have to unbuckle, get up, fold his seat up to raise the table.
    All in all, the design could have been great. Instead it seemed so poorly planned, it really shook my faith in Volkwagon. What else didn't they plan well? I've driven VW's for the past 30 years, since my first Beetle at 16. It seems the price keeps going up, and the quality is dropping. It seems the company is getting away with alot, riding on the loyalty for the VW lovers. This one is wising up! Going to check out the Honda Odessy tomorrow.
  • VW slept throught the minivan revolution even though they probably invented the mini.

    VW is slow to change.
  • From cars.com

    VW sold 3,395 EuroVans in the United States, up from 1,742 during 1998. The automaker sold 2,535 EuroVans through October of this year.

    _______________________________________________

    About 66 per state. No wonder hard to get parts.
  • I've been looking for a new van and have been smitten by the Eurovan. It brings back great memories of camping in my neighbors Westy when I was young.

    My question is, can a rack be installed on the pop-top? I need a way to transport my 17' canoe; my family has outgrown my Toyota pickup.

    Also, I read on the VW.com's news releases that the 2001 Eurovan will have a 200 hp V6, should I wait for the extra 60 ponies?

    Cheers
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,793
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  • Bought NEW: 1971 Super Beetle and 1975 VW Rabbit. Bought used: a 1965 VW Pickup (in Germany while in the US Army), a 1971 VW Bus and a 1977 VW Bus. I liked the comfort of the seats, the good visibility, and the fold-a-bed conversion of the 71 Bus. However, the VW were underpowered, VW dealers were despicable, and all 5 VW needed alot of expensive maintenance.
    My 1991 Astro CL with 4.3L V6, Air conditioning, Heater that had warm air, POWERFUL engine, etc. got better gas mileage than did the lethargic 71 or slightly-less lethargic 1977. Our 1999 Grand Caravan SE is light years superior to any Volkswagen. I hope Volkswagen goes bankrupt.
  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    I don't think it's fair to compare vehicles built in the 1970's to ones that are built in the 1990's. VW's are pretty nice nowadays and have (the luxury division) state-of-the-art Audi technology at a bargain price...look at the VW Passat 4motion, for example. Excellent race proven Quattro AWD (renamed 4motion) but at thouands cheaper. Perhaps it's time for you to stop by a VW dealership? Who knows? You may become a repeat owner again! :-)

    As for your comment about VW going bankrupt, be careful. I wouldn't want to have to remove any flames from you or others about this as it can quickly get out of hand...FWIW though, it won't happen anytime soon. Don't forget that VW bought Rolls Royce and Bentley just a short while ago...they already own Audi, Seat, and are working with Porsche. When their new SUV (developed with Porsche) the VW Colorado debuts in just a short while, it will almost definitely be a huge hit.

    Good luck,
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  • My husband and I go back and forth from NC to upstate NY practically every weekend. He is a painter and brings all sorts of items in our current cars, a '99 WV Passat GAS wagon and a '98 Subaru Forester. We like both cars, but the Forester gets a bit crowded with his stuff, groceries and our dog. We're thinking about replacing it with something else, but what? We drove and loved a '01 Saab wagon, but hear so many negative things about Saab in general; my husband disliked the '01 Volvo AC (pronounced it a' piece of junk'); he's now going to test-drive a Nissan Xterra, but we're leery of SUVs...now we're looking at mini vans, but they are...well...nerdy. But, wait, there's the Eurovan, which we saw in Europe a week or two ago, happily rambling down the road at 160 kilometers an hour, loaded with stuff. Can I hear from you Eurovanners out there about driving, maintenance, pricing and dealers who might have these beasts? Finally, I just saw the Microbus concept vehicle on the internet -- wow! Thanks everyone.
  • I test drove a 93 MV with 118K. Like the vehicle, but the interior engine noise was high. Is this normal. If it is, can it be reduced.
  • vwvanvwvan Posts: 3
    Can anyone give advice about buying a eurovan in europe, traveling for awhile and importing it back to the U.S.? VW has some terrific options for the "California Exclusive" modification including a bubble top, synchro four wheel drive and TDI diesel engine. Thanks for your help.
  • mrnimmomrnimmo Posts: 271
    You can't import a TDI eurovan. These are not American spec vehicles and the TDI engine is not available in the EV over here. VW had no european delivery plan for American spec vehicles currently.
  • fischdafischda Posts: 272
    I've heard VW is redesigning the Eurovan to make it more like its competitors, and thus boost sales. Anyone heard this? Know of any source on the news?
  • mrnimmomrnimmo Posts: 271
    See the new VW microbus thread. It seems to have been taken off the VW website. Also a discussion on

    http://forums.vwvortex.com/vwb/Forum20/HTML/00006.htm
  • mrnimmomrnimmo Posts: 271
    Boosting sales? to boost sales they should try not pricing an entry level van with cloth seats and few conveniences higher than all other vans, even premium models, from the competitors.
  • w00drow00dro Posts: 1
    My '95 Eurovan GLS has served me well thru 230,000 Km. so far, but the transmission just gave out. VW Canada offered me a rebuilt tranny for $6700. + 3 hours labour + taxes ( 15% here). I opted to have it repaired at a local transmission shop for $3500. ( taxes and labour in ). I love the comfortable seats and ride quality. I would like more passing power. Mine is equiped with the 2.5l 5 cylinder engine. The V6 was offered about 2 years later...a big improvement I'm told.
  • leejpleejp Posts: 3
    I'm in the market for a bigger vehicle as my family is growing.

    I wouldn't have considered the Eurovan because of the price but the price reductions on the 2001 models coupled with the new 201 hp VR6 makes me want to take a second look. Somequestions for those that own the vehicle...

    Are the newer models more reliable?
    carry a 4x8 building material in a pinch?
    how's the luggage space with all 7 passangers?
    handling and driveability? Does it drive big? My wife is a little nervous about big vehicles.
    safety? economy?
    Thanks for any help...
  • dplachtadplachta Posts: 109
    leejp,

    I looked at Edmunds prices and they show a substantial price cut (about $5K) as you indicate, however, the VW website lists the higher prices. Why would they cut prices and not tell anyone?

    I kind of like the VW van. It is large inside, bigger than most minivan, has good towing ability, and I like the MV option.

    I wonder why their drivetrain warranty for that vehicle is half that of their other vehicles.
  • mrnimmomrnimmo Posts: 271
    > I wonder why their drivetrain warranty for that vehicle is half that of their other vehicles.

    Maybe because it would cost them a fortune to extend the warranty?

    (Understand I bleed VW. Owned more than I care to admit. Been treated poorly by every last one.)
  • I am hardly an expert, but I saw the new Eurovan at the Autoshow this weekend. Yes, the price dropped substantially. $26K will get you a basic Eurovan w/ V6 engine. 10 year 100K mile warranty on the powertrain and engine, according to the saleperson we were talking to at the show. He may have been talking about what kind of extended warranty you can buy, though, knowing car salespeople.

    It was a really nice roomy van - bigger than "mini" but smaller than "cargo." LOTS of cargo room and leg room for 7 passengers.

    Can't test drive at the Autoshow, so I can't answer any other questions.
  • Hate to give up the '93 Eurovan I have owned since new. But now that it is reaching the age where significant repairs are more frequent, I am desparately seaching for alternate, less expensive (non-dealer) parts sources. My internet searches have not been very productive. (I think there are probably more Rolls Royce Corniche convertables in the US than Eurovans.) These low numbers just don't support an aftermarket supply for parts, I guess. Any suggestions? What about Canadian sources? Thanks.
  • mrnimmomrnimmo Posts: 271
    try

    http://www.busdepot.com

    also go to http://vanagon.com and look for the eurovan mailing list. send those folks your question. you may need to subscribe. they will know if anyone does
  • I am a diehard Subaru fan but with 3 rapidly growing kids need something a little bigger as a second vehicle. Would it be foolhardy to buy a 93 Eurovan? (being sold by my sister at a bargain price--my brother says I'm crazy to consider it) I had many positive experiences in the past with my 69 VW van so maybe I'm a little sentimental. I live in New Mexico. If anyone has any opinion on this, please write.
  • I saw in a newspaper article that VW is mowering ev prices by $5k. Anyone have any hard number on how much they will actually be, starting with the basic model, and then moving to the MV, weekender and full camper?
  • mrnimmomrnimmo Posts: 271
    >>I am a diehard Subaru fan but with 3 rapidly growing kids need something a little bigger as a second vehicle...


    Well..... there is another option. Buy a clean, low mileage later-model Vanagon (there are tons of them out there due to the head gasket problem), and hook it up to a Subaru engine. Quite a few folks have done this.


    See

    http://www.mcn.org/b/roadcow/convert.html


    http://www.cycoactive.com/urabus/

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