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Honda Odyssey Oil Consumption Problem



  • dinogdinog Posts: 3
    My 2009 Odyssey EX-L has the same problem. Did you get resolution? What do you recommend for me? Do the 2011 Odyssey's (with the new "new plateau honing technique for the cylinder bores""low-tension piston ring design" and molybdenum--coated piston skirts) have the same problem?

    Dino Graziano
  • Honda handled the situation in a way that infuriorated me , I'll never buy another Honda ever again. I was the first case of my brand new exl burning oil .

    Honda would not return my calls , district rep or American Honda. A Toyota is now in our driveway.
  • I have a Odyssey 2006. around 35,000 miles the motor started to act up so I drove to the dealer and they informed me I was low on oil. I said how could that be I just had an oil change 3000 miles ago. Are you telling me the my van with only 35,000 miles is burning oil? Needless to say I have been trying ever since to get them to fix the problem but the dealership will not act (even if you have an extended warranty) until the oil consumption reaches over 1 qt per 1000 miles. Imagine that !! I did find out one thing apparently cylinder # 3 seems the be the problem cylinder. The Honda dealership identified the spark plug for that cylinder to be fouled and replaced it. (THEY KNOW and that whats so annoying.) It sounds as though in reading some of the posted messages that this is a common problem one which Honda is not willing to recognize. I am interested if any one has been successful in getting Honda to fix the problem and if so can you point me in the right direction??
  • how can I get a copy of the Technical Service Bulliten. I have the same problem with oil consumption.
  • jbmccookjbmccook Posts: 1
    We purchased a new 2009 Honda Oddyssey back in March 2009
    from Honda. From the beginning we have had horrible gas mileage. We took the car in after a month to tell them it was getting poor gas mileage, but they told us, the car needed to be worn in and they couldn’t do anything until we hit 5,000 miles. We then moved to San Diego in August 2009. We continued to get poor gas mileage, then started having more problems with the car. The first time we took it in for it’s first service, the service guy informed us that we were 4 quarts low in our “brand new car.” They couldn’t see any oil leaking anywhere, so they just changed the oil, but informed us he was very concerned with the amount of oil that was consumed. The Oddyssey does not have an oil predictor light, basically when the car is low the Engine light turns on, which has been 3 x now, and I even check the oil religiously now, because I’m afraid it will break down. We are now “tracking the oil” on a sheet, because the car doesn’t have an indicator for that. After still showing Poway Honda our sheet of how much oil we are consuming, they told us it is within “Honda standards” of 1 quart per thousand miles and they still can’t see any leaks. If there are no leaks, doesn’t that mean the engine is burning the oil??? I’m a 37 year-old stay at home mom and I can tell you when I have to put this much oil in my car just to have it run and there is Dark, black puffs of smoke coming out of my car, there is a huge problem!!

    When visiting my mom in Orange County in April, she told me I had a massive amount of Black smoke coming from the exhaust pipe of my car. She did not want me to drive it home, because she said it looked that bad. It doesn’t happen every time I turn the car on, but it does happen. When I took it into Honda and they couldn’t see Black smoke that morning, they informed me there was nothing they could do.

    We are writing because we are very dissatisfied with Honda. I owned a pre-owned Honda Accord in college and it was a wonderful experience. I drove that car until it had 200,000 miles, amazing. I have always had the upmost respect for your company and it’s cars, but recently I have had such a horrible experience, at this time I feel I will never buy another Honda again. It is one thing to buy your very first “new” car to have it not working like a brand new car, but when I am driving around 3 kids from San Diego to Orange County all the time and the engine light goes on more than once (it’s not even a year old) I DO not feel safe. But even worse, Honda will not fix it. Even though this is a completely separate situation, it reflects my constant worry about owning a “lemon.” In the last month I have also started having my car make a horrific screeching noise when I stop on a downhill and my husband was told when he called in to the service department that it’s just normal. Then we take the car in, because it’s getting worse and they charge us $70 to look at the brakes, even though there is “nothing wrong” with them. I think that is just the icing on the cake. It feels like my brakes are going to go out on me and my engine is not safe in my “brand new” car??

    All we have ever wanted was for someone to fix our car. Your
    Honda technicians have basically even told us there is clearly a problem with oil and mileage, but nothing can be done until the car gets worse. I don’t really understand why Honda just can’t fix the problem. I don’t feel that my family’s life should be at risk because they will not fix my car that I purchased and continue to make monthly payments for.

    Very frustrated and disappointed in Honda........
  • austinodyaustinody Posts: 3
    We are having issues with oil consumption on our 2009 Honda Odyssey. I am incredibly disappointed. This was the first new vehicle we have ever purchased and we chose the Odyssey after much research. We were so excited about this van and this was also our first Honda. There are only 23,500 miles on our van and as others have stated the dealer insists that nothing is wrong and that one quart of oil per 1000miles is perfectly normal. We had an oil consumption test tonight and I have the paperwork from that - 3/4quart for every 1000 miles. Our problem started over a year ago - we were out one evening and the service engine light came on - I thought it was a fluke as the van was only about a year old and had less than 12,000 miles on it. The light went off only to come back on and stay on the next day. After looking at the owners manual we checked the oil and there was nothing on the dipstick. I walked to a store and bought oil to put in the van and then we took it to Honda. They said there was nothing wrong and told us to come back in 1000 miles, which we did and they said everything was fine. At that point, although we were uncomfortable with what had happened we figured that maybe they hadn't refilled the oil completely or something at the last oil change because "our new van" could not possibly be having problems. However, when the light came on again yesterday I was trying to get some information and found this forum. While I realize that not all Odysseys have this problem it clearly seems to be a manufacturing issue and they should fix (or better yet replace) those that do. We bought this van because we wanted a reliable and safe vehicle for family trips and carting our two young children to activities and school. We are responsible drivers and have only had the van serviced by Honda. I hope that there will be some resolution to this problem by Honda - I plan to follow the suggestions that others on this forum have made because I simply am not sure what else to do at this point. I am so angry and disappointed as I question the safety of this vehicle.
  • indydriverindydriver Posts: 620
    edited July 2011
    Since Honda has created a hardball line of defense on this issue, you need to do the same. You have 12,500 miles of warranty remaining. Document everything. Have the dealer do all work and oil consumption documentation. Insist on a FtF meeting with the regional Honda rep. Take a lawyer friend with you. Do not accept 1qt/1000 as "normal" because it isn't. You should get one of the following: 1.a new engine, 2. A new van 3.(best) your money back.
  • what is a "FtF meeting with the regional Honda rep" ? we are having the same problems and despite the simple logic that if Honda recommends an oil change every five thousand miles, and a loss of 1 quart per thousand miles, would leave me empty at my next oil change, they refuse to acknowledge that anything could possibly be wrong.
  • I called Honda North America. They took my information and told me that someone would contact me soon. I am trying to be patient an optimistic. Have others been through this process? If so, will it help? I hope so. If not then I plan to check into the lemon laws, contact the better business bureau about the dealer, and maybe try to get the local investigative news people to do a story. I will also most definitely contact a lawyer - has anyone else done this? Any other ideas or suggestions?
  • indydriverindydriver Posts: 620
    The net is your friend. Google the problem and you will find Honda enthusiast sites with threads. There are a surprising number of people in your position. I don't know if any are being satisfied by Honda but the more people scream bloody murder, the sooner they will want to stop it.
  • joe359joe359 Posts: 2
    I have been dealing with american Honda and Jay Honda (Bedford, Ohio) for over a year now. they replaced the transmission at 6,600 miles because it was leaking fluid so bad. I originally took it for service because of the oil consumption. If you have an oil consumption problem, contact the media. I hope to do a story soon, the media has expressed interest. I have heard the same story from Honda, not broken in, needs to be 1 quart every 500 miles to be excessive, Lets do an oil consumption study..... If this oil was dripping on the ground (like the transmission, they would replace the engine, or i would get a new vehicle by now). How long is my emission system going to last with all this oil going through the tail pipe? I will never buy Honda again. The fight will go on!!!! Media first, then an attorney.. Keep good documentation....
  • joe359joe359 Posts: 2
    The same thing would of happened to me if I did not check my oil in my 2010 odyssey. Going through oil like water. What has happened since it is now August?? I am going to try to have the media do a story. the customer service at american honda is a joke.
  • dendrodendro Posts: 19
    I had a 2008 Odyssey and I had no oil in my engine at 22,000. Mind you I change my oil every 3 to 4,000 miles. My oil life control (if you can call it that) said I had 50% oil life left. I guess that doesn't mean what it says. No one did anything to fix the problem. I went through my dealer who basically had their hands tied by Honda. The old Oil consumption test. I got 600 miles one time and black smoke coming out the rear and nothing was done about their high tech consumption test. That was used many years ago by Honda for some other reason other than what is going on with these vehicles.

    I would assume some dealers may have repaired the truck for THEIR customers but not mine and I see many others were not helped. Honda is obviously trying to avoid a recall. In the meantime I had to trade it in to the same dealer while I could still drive it on the lot. The only other truck beside the pick up without that engine was the CRV (should have learned from Cadillac many years ago with their 8cyl. to 6 cyl. engine, it was a disaster also)

    The truck I have now is too little and I lost thousands of dollars by not selling it outright to a private party. But I knew the engine was going and HOW could I sell a vehicle knowing the engine was going out. Obviously Honda and certain dealers do not have the same upbringing most of us have had.

    If I operated my business the way Honda has conducted itself I would not sleep at night and be out of business. But then again I'm not a big company like Honda.

    I hope someone does bring it to the media. As more and more people get stuck with this :lemon: of a truck it will be recalled I hope, that is if Honda gets bad press and pressure from the Government.

    If anyone starts a class action suit let me know, I will join in. Remember the more letters the more phone calls to the right agency and something just could happen before more people suffer the loss we have.

    Let's pray no one gets stuck on a busy freeway when their Odyssey gives out and they get hurt. This is a serious problem that could endanger lives, I guess is cheaper to let a few people die other than a recall (sad but true)
  • doggrandmadoggrandma Posts: 144
    I have a 2010 Odyssey EX-L and have not had any problems... yet. You mentioned that not all Hondas have this problem. Is there any way to discover if it is a problem with vehicles manufactured at a certain location or some other distinguishing item that will help solve this issue? I'm almost afraid to drive my van now.
  • indydriverindydriver Posts: 620
    Just do what you should be doing with all your vehicles. Check it over once per month. Check ALL the fluid levels under the hood and your tires' air pressure once a month. I agree that this rate of oil consumption is not good or right and Honda needs to do something about it. But, if you check your oil so infrequently that you run it dry, shame on you.
  • dendrodendro Posts: 19
    I have owned huge 8 cyl trucks and have never had any truck use this much oil.

    Honda is irresponsible in not warning us that this hunk of junk used that much oil especially for a 6 cyl. Or Honda could have designed a oil indicator that actually worked the way a low oil warning light should. Possibly the warning light would come on before there is no oil in the engine.

    Either way Honda is at fault 100% for a faulty design and a less than adequate training program for the salespeople who sell a truck that would use this amount of oil in 1,000 miles.

    There is no excuse for the way Honda has handled this problem and treated their customers. All of us are not in any position to be spending over $30,000 to $40,000 on any truck and have an engine go at 17,000 miles or like mine 22,000 miles.

    Not done with Honda yet by a long shot.
  • dendrodendro Posts: 19
    That is not true your warranty is not covered because you had it changed somewhere else. They all say the same thing across the country. I want to know who is training these people to say the same thing.

    They should have been training these puppets to tell the truth when we purchased the hunk of junk. "Hey, great little mini van. BUT please check your oil every 500 miles because it runs out at 1,000 miles" That would have been the truth.

    I know however, if I had been told the truth I would have not purchased the Honda any make any model.

    Look at my posts, I got ripped a new nose by these rip off artists. Keep it up maybe someday before 20 years have passed they may recall the junk and fix it right.
  • I am having the same oil consumption problem with my 2009 Odyssey with 30,000 miles and I have been given the same responses from the dealership and Corporate - but I am documenting it well - this will be my third time back to the dealership. The first time I realized it I was getting my oil changed at a Jiffy Lube and was told that it was not showing on the dipstick and I thought the technician was looney - but I looked myself and sure enough - it was not showing on the dipstick. I was in shock and when I took it to Honda they said that since I had changed the oil - that they could not even start the "Consumption" test until they could confirm that the engine was using oil so they told me to bring it back if it did it again. I should have screamed at that time. When it happened again, then the test was technically started and they changed my oil and I now have had the problem occur again. The oil loss is eratic - meaning I cannot identify whether it is when it is in "ECO" mode or not but I am assumining the problem is when it reduces to fewer number of cylinders - then something must be occuring that is causing the oil to be consumed is not leaking. I cannot believe Honda is taking this stance that oil consumption is acceptable and I am sure they are aware of the problem and are working feverishly to engineer an "Economic" solution. Honda has too much on the line to risk bad publicity over this.
  • indydriverindydriver Posts: 620
    edited September 2011
    Sorry to hear of your issues. Honda already supposedly "fixed" the issue with a different piston ring and moly coated skirts on the 2011 VCM. This is why dealers are insisting buyers do NOT change their oil until the MM hits 15% or less (they want that moly in there for a while) even though this usually works out to 7500+ miles. We own one in an Accord and I hope it works. This is a tacit admission on their part that they understand their is a problem. It's also a good lesson for those of you who are not real buffs when it comes to NEED to perform basic safety checks on all your vehicles at least monthly. This includes at the very least checking fluids under the hood and tire pressure. Especially a minivan where you probably risk your family every day. The consumption on these VCMs is not right but as the owner, you bear some responsibility for basic maintenance checks.
  • Our 06 Odyssey Touring has 70K miles. We have been monitoring the oil consumption and it seems to be getting worse. My gauge said 50% so I decided to see how much oil had disappeared. When I checked, the stick barely had any oil on it. We love this van but I still can't believe that Honda hasn't recalled this motor. We should all be contacting our local newspapers and screaming about this! 1500 mile oil changes is insane- especially for a Honda! Dealer just says- "you should check your oil every time you fill up with gas" What a joke.

    At least Toyota had the balls to do a massive recall and fix their probs. Honda needs to step up and do the right thing.
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