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Honda Odyssey Oil Consumption Problem

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  • When I finally was able to speak with the person at Honda North America it was not helpful - they were unsympathetic and denied that Honda Odysseys have any problems with oil consumption. However, they did tell us that the service manager at our local dealership wanted us to bring the van back in. When we took the van back in the service manager was very helpful and understanding. He had his team take the engine apart and acknowledged that there was some type of problem because the pistons were washed clean and they are supposed to have carbon build up on them. So, they replaced the bottom half of the engine. We are grateful that there was some response, but our preference was for them to take this van back and start over with a new one, but that was not an option. I am just concerned that we may have other problems and just don't feel safe. We are lucky to have the service manager that we did because if it weren't for him we would just be completely out of luck. I remain disappointed and frustrated with Honda as a company and will not purchase another Honda vehicle.
  • So, Honda paid for a very expensive warranty repair. Good for them and you. The important question is, did it fix your problem?
  • ee4lifeee4life Posts: 14
    edited September 2011
    Honda issued TSB 11-033 "Engine Oil Consumption; MIL May Be On With DTC P3400 and/or P3497" to help address the engine oil consumption issue. The issue is related to the VCM function repeatedly switching on/off under specific driving conditions. A PCM software update is available.

    Odysseys Affected:
    2008–10 Odyssey EX-L, Touring – ALL
    2011 Odyssey – From VIN 5FNRL5H..BB000001 thru 5FNRL5H..BB062427

    http://techinfo.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/A11-033.PDF
  • I could have written this email. I am in the middle of this nightmare right now. They want to tear apart the engine to identify the problem for $2000!!!
  • I am in the middle of this nightmare right now!
    burning up oil and complaining for the last year and now they say they can't do anything short of tearing the engine apart to explore the issue for $2000!
  • indydriverindydriver Posts: 620
    What year, how many miles, how bad is the problem? Is it still under warranty?

    LOL, I just purchased a Toyota Sienna in part to avoid VCM engines. They must have heard about Honda's problems because the 2012 owner's manual says up to 1.1 qts per 600 miles is within "normal" consumption.

    Not in my experience.
  • dendrodendro Posts: 19
    I did receive a recall on the Honda Mini van. Fat lot of good it did, I traded that junker back to the dealer. I lost thousands of dollars on that mini van, at a time when I could least afford to lose any money. I am not done with Honda yet and all the money I lost. I can't even begin to explain the stress it caused me. Here I had a brand new truck 22,000 miles and the engine was going and Honda refused to fix it, I'll include my dealer also.

    I guess the old saying the rich get richer and the poor get poorer knew what they were talking about.

    The average person can not afford to hire lawyers to fight their battles, even when they are in the right. I should have taken it to my state Attorney General, the state of Minnesota happens to have a very good one. I may do that yet, as soon as I get the time to deal with it.

    Is anyone out there working harder than ever and way more hours and way less money. It is companies like Honda who take advantage of the little guys.

    I wish I could get over the abuse this company has put me through, but I must be stupid in thinking there will be justice when a huge company like Honda sells their mistakes and refuses to make it right. I know I'm not the only Honda owner who has been cheated with their product.

    I can only hope they confess and right the wrongs done to so many Honda owners.

    Dendro
  • I purchased brand new 2012 1,500KM getting humming noise. Took it to the dealer they say no issue just air circulating. Is it right?
  • I purchased a brand new 2012 1,500KM getting humming noise under the hood. Took it to the dealer they say no issue just air circulating. Is this right?
  • I have a 2005 Honda Odyssey with 118,000 miles. Since it had 60,000 miles it has consumed 2 quarts of oil every 500 miles. Recently we are at 3 quarts every 500 miles. I have complained to my dealer, Honda of America and Honda Care to no avail. I have filed a complaint with the State of California. They sent me to NHTSA who is investigating this issue at this time. If you have this problem, please file a complaint, or a second complaint with NHTSA. https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/VehicleComplaint/index.xhtml or 1-888-327-4236. They told me also file a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission. 1-877-382-4357 https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/. They told me to add a Better Business Bureau complaint into the mix. www.bbb.org/ to find your local affiliate. If you are having these problems with your Honda Odyssey or Accord, please file complaints so that our collective voice is heard. Thank you!
  • I had the EXACT same problem and at 80,000 was told to do an engine rebuild at a cost of $10,000! I receive vm messages from Honda of America and have never been able to reach a live person. thanks for the complaint forms and I will fill it out. mine too was a 2005 Odyssey! problem started at 60,000 and blew up at 80,000!
  • I have a 2009 Honda Odyssey which is having a multitude of engine issues. After the 3rd trip to the dealer, the mechanic told be that they are going to replace the engine block based on what they are hearing from corporate. Looks like there was an issue at the manufacturing plant and the block was allowing engine oil to enter the piston which causes the spark plugs to get fouled. This, in turn, causes the car to misfire setting off the engine lights, etc. The result is loss of oil. Not sure if they are going to make a recall as the repair is over 3K. I am within warranty so the repair is covered. May want to explore to see if others are having similar issues.
  • I have a 2011 Odyssey and it has about 29000. Friday, the car starts to shake like crazy and the engine light and the VSA light came on. When I checked the oil, it was empty (on the minimum line). I just top off the oil about a month ago, so after about a month, it went from full to empty. No sign of leakage. Have not taken it in to the dealer yet because everyone said it will be just a waste of time because they will not do anything about it since I had changed the oil and the light goes off and everything is fine again.
  • Your van is still under warranty. I would get it in there to get the problem start date documented.

    Are you saying it was only one quart low when it started misbehaving? That would be unusual.
  • bwilson4bwilson4 Posts: 7
    Same issue as most of you. Had our van towed to dealer after it started to run very rough and engin light came on at just under 3 years and about 42K. Was told that it was very low on oil (even though it was about 4500 miles since our last service) and this caused the spark plug for the #3 cylinder to fail and it to misfire. Paid for all spark plugs to be replaced. Asked about the TSB 11-033 from post #104 and was told they had no record of it. Started our oil consumption test at this point, but have a bad feeling they know of this issue and are not willing to stand behind the product they sold me.
  • indydriverindydriver Posts: 620
    Well, first of all, if you know enough about the issue to find this thread, you are capable of checking your oil once a week. These engines should not consume oil they way they do but who would let their oil level get so low that it needs towing in?

    VCM is a loser. Check your oil level weekly. Document, document, document.

    Then trade it. Or do what I did....buy a Toyota.
  • I drive a 2008 Honda Odyssey touring edition. The Honda dealer performed the TSB 11-033 on June 8, 2012. Ever since then, my car has been burning oil at a rate of about 1 quart of oil per 1700 miles. The "check engine" light keeps coming on. The codes in the computer describe issues with the oxygen sensor, the catalytic converter and the variable valve timer.

    Honda has advised me to check the oil levels every one hundred miles.
  • indydriverindydriver Posts: 620
    "Check oil level every 100 miles"

    This is laughable. Welcome to 1st Gen VCM. Who told you this, a Honda Rep? I would insist on this in writing, then find a lawyer.
  • hajj30hajj30 Posts: 7
    The dealer replaced everything under the hood! It looks brand new at 90,000 miles! It still has the same problem after only 1,000 miles! They now want me to pay $8,000.00 for another engine.
  • hajj30hajj30 Posts: 7
    I just feel violated. They changed everything under the hood, including the entire engine. Everything looks brand new at 90k miles! Now that it is still losing oil they want me to pay $8000.00 to replace it again! Are they crazy?
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