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2010 Prius - Next Generation

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  • felt - i have a vw cabrio convertible now and there really are no blind spots even with the top up so that's probably why the Prius seemed like such a difference. good point about the cabin protection - my cabrio offers very little protection, which is one reason i couldn't wait to get something bigger and safer, which is probably why i like the cr-v so much. good to know that you dont feel claustrophic in the prius, especially since you're tall!

    question for anyone, is paying the extra 2k to step up to the IV to get the leather seats worth it??
  • stevegoldstevegold Posts: 185
    A friend just got $500 off on a fully loaded Prius.
    I read in the WSJ that you can get $1,000 off.
    The fully loaded Prius was a waste as the 4 electronic gadgets are not worth $3,000.
    The leather seats are nice, as are the NAV and BT gadgets.
    I would prefer the NAV and BT with or without the solar alternative.
  • Yeah, does anyone hav the solar package? It sounds cool but I haven't seen it yet.
  • dmathews3dmathews3 Posts: 1,739
    you are right but my comments were directed at the person from Ca. with his heartless comments against the hard working people from the UAW. They didn't get GM in the mess they were in it was management and Wall Street. I'm betting that person wouldn't last a day on the line in ANY auto plant, American or Foreign. Now back to the Prius.
  • dmathews3dmathews3 Posts: 1,739
    I've heard pluses and minuses on it but these are all from people who don't have it. I too wonder who is right or if either are right. I think it will be one of those packages that one person will praise and another will not. Plus I think it may be better suited for the hotter climates than say MI. which may only get say 10 days a year if that many into the 90's. This summer has been weird and we haven't had 10 days in the 80's I believe.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    No issues at all. I'm at 47.5 mpg lifetime done by actual hand calculations,i.e. Tot mi driven / Tot gal purch. A friend turned in his 2004 for a new 2010. He had 246,000 mi on his after 5-1/2 years. My own goal is 250,000+ by the end of 2013.
  • ctlctl Posts: 123
    I normally don't post much, but read amusingly with your personal attacks. If a plain-fact statement hurts so much (no need to blame the messengers), easy to see ur opinions towards non-big 3 cars and wonder why u r here.

    Back to Prius III - a car that I think has the best feel-good karma to me than said a Benz S65 AMG :)

    you are right but my comments were directed at the person from Ca. with his heartless comments against the hard working people from the UAW. They didn't get GM in the mess they were in it was management and Wall Street. I'm betting that person wouldn't last a day on the line in ANY auto plant, American or Foreign. Now back to the Prius.
  • tyler70tyler70 Posts: 82
    the solar looks nice, especially on the white exterior; however, it is not really practical. it works to keep the inside the same as outside, but when the outside temp is 98 degree, then 98 inside is still very hot. You can turn the AC on remotely which is a cool feature; however, you cant turn it on unless you are w/i certain distance from the vehicle, then do you turn it on and stay outside and wait for 3 min for the inside to cool down before getting in? Mine comes with the solar. again, it looks nice (black solar on white exterior) but not very practical. Hi highly recommend the nav + bluetooth
  • Kirstie@EdmundsKirstie@Edmunds Posts: 10,677
    I don't see any "personal attacks," though the conversation got slightly sidetracked. As a side note, please don't type posts in "text message" - we're not a cell phone.

    Re: discounts - This seems to only work in larger markets. I had a friend shopping for a Prius in a college town, in which there's only one dealer who carries the Prius. No negotiation possible. She tried to cross-shop the Fusion hybrid, and they were out of hybrids long ago.

    Need help navigating? kirstie_h@edmunds.com - or send a private message by clicking on my name.

  • ctlctl Posts: 123
    I think the host is quite clueless in correcting the attackee but not the attacker. I am betting the host won't last a day in a college classroom and I don't see any personal attacks in the above comments :)

    I don't see any "personal attacks," though the conversation got slightly sidetracked. As a side note, please don't type posts in "text message" - we're not a cell phone.

    you are right but my comments were directed at the person from Ca. with his heartless comments against the hard working people from the UAW. They didn't get GM in the mess they were in it was management and Wall Street. I'm betting that person wouldn't last a day on the line in ANY auto plant, American or Foreign. Now back to the Prius.
  • PFFlyer@EdmundsPFFlyer@Edmunds Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 5,810
    Back to the Prius please.

    PFFlyer@Edmunds

    Moderator - Hatchbacks & Hybrid Vehicles

  • feltfelt Posts: 105
    I own a G3 - IV, now with 1492 total miles on the odometer. Yesterday, I drove from Teton Village, WY, spent all day driving around Yellowstone Park (numerous stops at park features and wildlife), spent the night in West Yellowstone, then today drove home to northern Utah. 429.2 total miles on the gas tank when I filled-up ... and the calculated mileage was 63.9 mpg.

    I consider the above to be a fair indication of "possible" mileage, but not to be expected in "normal" driving. OK, the facts: Yellowstone Park is fairly flat, and the posted speed limit is 45 MPH, which I did not exceed. Right in the "ideal" range for mileage. I made no special effort to maximize mileage, except whenever I came to a downhill, I did take it out of cruise control, and tried to stay in the "glide" zone shown on the Hybrid Monitoring Indicator screen. The A/C was operated about 40% of the time; the traffic was heavy, and at times it was stop and go. I did not inflate the tires over and above the pressure that was delivered to me by the dealer. I accelerated normally, certainly not excessively fast, but not slow either. When approaching a stop sign, or stopped traffic, I coasted to a stop where possible (there were motorist behind me)(the park was crowded). Today I left West Yellowstone, and drove 65 mph home, with a stretch of about 50 miles at 70 mph. I used cruise control and ran the A/C; I passed whenever approaching slower traffic.

    I know that driving 35-45 mph is not normally possible for 300 or more miles, but it does illustrate what is "possible" under (close to) idea conditions. Incidentally, the design that permits the A/C to be operable without the engine running is a major factor. What a fantastic design feature that is.

    BTW, I have no special abilities, nor made special efforts. I think anyone that would follow the simple conservative habits identified above could achieve the same results.

    Happy motoring.
  • tyler70tyler70 Posts: 82
    I am little tired of non-prius owners keep telling me like they are experts that prius are only good for people driving in city streets. as a new prius IV owner, I can say that is not true at all. on highway going at 60 - 70 mph still gets me at least 40's mph.
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  • tyler70tyler70 Posts: 82
    can any prius owner tell me if maitenance for Prius is different than any non-hybrid vehs ?? I normally takes my Lexus to this shop for oil change, but today I was told that he does not service any hybrid vehs (even oil change). Is there any special handling in terms of maintenance for a prius? anything I need to pay special attention to ? another question, do I need to warm up the engine I non-hybrid vehs? when I turn on the veh, the gas engine picks in for about a minute, does that mean the engine is warming up and I should not start driving until the gas engine turns off ?
    thanks
  • As an owner of a 2004 Prius I can attest to the car's reliability and low cost of ownership. I have close to 70,000 miles and I've changed the oil at 5,000 mile intervals with synthetic oil. Air filters and tires were changed at their normal intervals. I think the 2010 model will do just as well if not better. It is the most reliable vehicle I've owned. I considered a Jetta diesel but the VW reliability really turned me off. They've improved but nothing compared to Toyota or Honda. I think the Ford Fusion hybrid is a great alternative to someone who wants a Prius but does not like the futuristic non-conventional styling. I've read fantastic reviews of the FFH from consumers and journalists. I think since many of the components are from Toyota suppliers you are going to see good reliability. Besides, Ford has really improved over the last few years.
  • stevegoldstevegold Posts: 185
    I have a 2004 Prius. It is the best car I've owned including a Cadillac Fleetwood in the 80's. I change the oil and oil filter myself in the spring and in the fall. Nothing unusual.
    I did install a Fumato oil drain plug as I do on every new car I get. The simple twist action just makes it easier for Do It Yourselfers.
    The engine comes on for a short time at first, probably to charge the traction battery.
    It also reloads the still warm radiator coolant from the thermos jug. No need to warm up the Prius.
    Most reporters still don't get it. It gets most of it's economy from the DIRECT drive of the small ICE engine which is fine for city driving and most highway cruising. Aerodynamic styling, light components and regenerative braking add to the economy. It gets it's good performance from the fast acting intermittant boost of the electric motors when accelerating, passing or climbing "short" hills. The DIRECT HSD is more efficient than generating and using electricity 100% of the time.
  • deweydewey Posts: 5,243
    It has been my tenth day of my 2010 Prius ownership. It's a premium package plus sunroof. In Canada we have different packages.

    Sold my 2007 BMW 335i and am more ecstatic about my Prius than the BMW. No kidding. Just a short time ago as a BMW driver I was swearing at all slow drivers and now I just love going on the slow lane and enjoying the scenery.

    For the first time in my life I dont want any other car than the car I am driving right now. And believe it or not I am almost getting the EPA mileage though I am not quite there yet.

    It still takes time to transform a lead footed BMW driver into a feather footed Prius driver. My only regret is that I did not buy a Prius sooner.

    Pardon my praises but I am still at the 10th day of my honeymoon with my car.
  • deweydewey Posts: 5,243
    CNET reviewers picked the Honda Insight over the Toyota Prius?

    Why? Because they felt it was more of a performance car.

    That makes no sense whatsoever! Both the Insight and the Prius are lame performance cars. That is like comparing a BMW 335i and a Audi S4 and picking the BMW mainly because it has better fuel consumption . :confuse:

    In my particular case I would sacrifice speed/perfromance/driving dynamics for low mileage in my Prius anyday. Otherwise I would have kept my BMW!

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  • I'd have to agree. Have you sat in the new Insight? Very cheap feeling doors and the interior is tight. I'd take the next gen Prius any day over the Insight. Now as far as other Hondas are concerned, they make great cars. I think their cost cutting really shows on this vehicle. To get at the ~20kUSD price point they definitely sacrificed quality. Slam the doors and you'll see what I mean. It feels like a 1972 Datsun B210 my parents had when I was a kid!!!!
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    The Toyota hybrids actually need less maintenance than a non-hybrid of the same size and type. The hybrid systems need no maintenance of any kind at any time - EVER. The only requirements are..
    oil/filters every 5K or 6 mos
    air filters @ 30K, 60K, 90K, 120K etc
    inverter coolant drain replace @ 100K
    spark plugs replace @ 120K - 150K as needed

    The rest of the items like tires wipers and alignments are 'wear' items

    You may not have to replace the brakes - EVER
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