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2010 Prius - Next Generation

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  • thanks for the insight! makes sense to me now but is this a good thing or could it be a danger??
  • Here's my two cents worth. I own an '04 Prius with about 110K. There are some unique quirks about the drive-train of the Prius Hybrid. I have noticed, over the past 6 yrs, the car reacts to "slipage" when excellerating from a stop or sudden need for speed. Potholes, like ice patches, cause this variation of traction. Likewise in rainy weather there is a tendency for the braking system to "grab" as you come to a stop. I find myself literally letting up on the brake pedal the last second or two to avoid a sudden jolt to stop. This does not occur in dry conditions. Others have noticed the same "quirks" also. All in all, I'd say it's a small quirk to contend with considering the pluses that make the Prius the hybrid that it is.
  • canccanc Posts: 715
    IMO, it's neither--the Prius is not a conventional car, which will get some getting used to. I remember having the same reaction as you with my 2006 Prius, and getting upset about it because I thought I'd be bumping the car in front of me. Try slowing down a bit more in advance, that way, when you do hit a pothole, it won't be as bad because you wouldn't be going as fast, and the switchover won't be as noticeable.

    Hope this helps...
  • sas9sas9 Posts: 28
    Hi all - I'd appreciate your help with an issue I have w/my new IV Prius. So far, I'm loving the car... the only thing my car is missing is auto headlights. (I didn't know the car didn't come with this!!) I have to manually turn on/off my headlights which is a real pain. Additionally, if I forget to turn off my headlights, which is easy to do during daylight, the car doesn't have any reminder to turn the lights off. This is pretty archaic in my opinion!

    Any ideas? Thanks, Stacy
  • sas9sas9 Posts: 28
    I took my 1 week old '10 on a road trip. The fuel left showed 95 miles. I filled up at this point and the car only took 8.6 gallons of gas which meant I had over 3 gallons left. That would be more than 95 miles so I'm guessing the excess gas is in the reserve.

    Do you all agree?
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    It really doesn't matter. After you turn off the engine, get out and leave the vehicle the lights turn off by themselves in about 30 seconds. It's the same on my 2005 Prius. Just forget about them. No biggie.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    When you get down to '0' on the DTE indicator .... you then have about 2 gallons left in reserve.

    Yes your assumption is correct. All Toyota's have this reserve. It's the same on my 2005 Prius. You can drive another 100 miles or so searching for the perfect refill at that time ;) .
  • i have the same car as you have and i always leave my lights on and they just go off by themselves so no need to worry!
  • sas9sas9 Posts: 28
    I'm not sure if my '10 has a reserve or not. (I guess I could read the manual but this site is more fun!) Recently, my DTE showed 95 miles. I stopped for gas and the car took 8.6 gallons. With 3+ gallons left in the car, that would be more than 95 miles so I'm thinking there's a 1 gallon reserve on the 2010.

    Thanks all!
  • sas9sas9 Posts: 28
    Thank you! I tried this and it works fine.

    Do you see any issues if I left the headlights on all the time? I'm not used to having to turn them on and if I just left them on all the time, that would be really convenient for me. What do you think? Would that pose any problem for the car?

    Thanks again.
  • sas9sas9 Posts: 28
    When you load CD's into your player, does the navi screen show the CD name or anything other than NO DATA FOUND?

    I have the upgraded JBL system and navi.

    Thanks all.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    You can leave the headlights on all the time if you wish with no complications.
  • Hello there. We are bringing 10 Toyota Prius to Brazil in an independent project since the factory still do not make this model here. The car has a new concept so I would like to ask, what are the main concerns from technical point of view. We have to worry since we will not have official technical support from the factory.
    Does the car present mechanical problems often?
    What are the most common problems?
    Is it easy for mechanics to solve problems out?
    Only trained mechanics can see over electrical problems?
    This is more a business oportunity: Do you know of any company interested in offering training courses for our guys here? We may buy the whole package either we send our people to the US or someone comes to train our staff here?
    Contact me at victor.leyton@ouroverdetl.com.br

    Wair for your commmentaries.

    Victor
  • Are you buying 2010 or 2009 models. I think that makes a big difference. I have a 2004 (same as 2009) which has had no real problems other than TSB's that were applied, at no cost, by my nearby Toyota dealer. Some of those were major.(anew fuel system, a new display and dashboard innards etc., other were minor.
    While the 2010 model is superior in performance and mileage, I would recommend using 2009 models. They will be cheaper to purchase, there will be few if any TSB's and they are very reliable. You might consider one 2010 to respond to complaints or performance issues that might occur with 2009 models. For example, I live in the mountains and there is a performance issue climbing LONG, STEEP, STRAIGHT mountain passes. I think the 2010 will do significantly better in those circumstances but I still use my 2004 to make that trip three or four times a year.
    To answer your questions. My 2004 does not have frequent problems of any sort so that the rest of the questions don't matter but if I were driving in Brazil, I would take a 2009 not a 2010.
  • Hi Steve, thanks for your answer. Yes, we are bringing 2010 models. Conditions here in Brazil are different from those in the US, to begin with, our fuel has 25% of ethanol that means the combustion rates will certainly be adjusted or the car will have to run only on special pure gas, which is more difficult to obtain. What knid of fuel do you use?
  • When I purchased by '10 Prius, the dealer forced to purchase $200 floor mat said it's required and they couldn't see the car without the mat, is it true?

    The $200 mat is really thin and crappy, can I request to pay a little extra to upgrade to all all-season mat (may even costs less)?
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    Probably not. Toyota has taken the All Weather mats off the market....
  • carnaughtcarnaught Posts: 1,580
    When I purchased by '10 Prius, the dealer forced to purchase $200 floor mat said it's required and they couldn't see the car without the mat, is it true?

    What a load of horse doo...
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    They 'couldn't' because the GM or the owner wouldn't let them sell the car without the mats. Same difference, couldn't / wouldn't.
  • sas9sas9 Posts: 28
    I have a one month old '10 and have only washed the car myself. I'm careful not to get water in any of the vent areas close to the hood of the car so water won't get under the hood. (is this even necessary?)

    Where I live in LA, there are mostly hand wash carwashes to go to if I wanted to have someone else wash my car. They won't be as careful as I am washing the car. Would this be risky or okay for my Prius?

    Thanks for your feedback!
  • Not to worry. The Prius is perfectly at home in all kinds of wet. I have 110K miles on an '04 and have many times experienced foul weather with no surprises. I would also say that carwashes have been routine with nary a problem.
  • chadxchadx Posts: 153
    It's a car. There is zero reason to be "careful" when washing it. You can not and will not hurt it buy spraying water all over it. What do you do when it rains out? Park it and ride your bicycle? :P Ha.
  • sas9sas9 Posts: 28
    Thanks Chadx - my concern was when you go to a "Hand Wash", they are rubbing water and soap with sponges all over the car which could lead to water leaking into areas where there are batteries, etc. It seemed different to me than driving in the rain... thanks for letting me know.
  • chadxchadx Posts: 153
    Nope. A hand car wash wouldn't really be any different than driving, or parking, in a good downpour. To take it a step further, the jets of an automatic high pressure car wash puts way more force than a hose during a hand wash or thunderstorm downpour and those haven't caused anyone any problems. No warning to stay out of high pressure car washes in the owner's manual is there? (I don't know. I'm asking that in seriousness). I can't imagine there would be.

    Anything that would fry is out of harms way just like a non-hybrid. Even from car washes that have a spray bar for underneath the car. Ever drive through a 2 - 4 inch deep puddle? The force of the water being thrown up your tire splitting that puddle is pretty extreme and a large volume. Just listen to the sound from the force of the water hitting the bottom of your car. I haven't heard any examples of Prius dropping dead from hitting puddles. They are designed as an all weather vehicle. No need to worry. Wash and drive to your hearts content!
  • carnaughtcarnaught Posts: 1,580
    I would think that the manufacturer would make the consumer aware if this theoretical problem was a real problem.
  • msj09msj09 Posts: 31
    Has anyone driven the Prius V with 17" tires and one of the other levels with 15" tires? Was there a difference in handling? Noise? MPG? I will be doing 90% hiway driving and 10% suburb/city driving. Is either better for this type of driving mix???
  • Does anyone have this accessory?

    My car did not come with it but I would like to have it installed, and although the Toyota web site advertises it as a $499 accessory, my dealership says they have to charge $399 + $265 labor!

    I know I can get one installed much cheaper elsewhere, but I like the idea of the VIP version because its integrated right with your Smart Key FOB, so there's no extra FOB. I would also prefer Toyota to do the work just because I've heard stories of after-market car starters causing problems in cars.

    Any suggestions?
  • Why do you want a remote starter? The 2004-2010 Prius have keep the coolant warm for 2-3 days with a thermos under the hood. I'm not sure you can leave the heating controls on after the main switch is off.
  • I want a remote starter for these cold New England months so I can start my car from my second floor apartment and by the time I go out to my car it is defrosted and warm. It's not only a time saver, but you don't have to do as much scraping, and you get in a nice warm car. Also, the car doesn't let you lock it when it's on and take the key with you so the times I've run down to start it and then go back in my apartment, the car is unlocked which I'm really not comfortable with.

    They do offer the VIP remote starter as an accessory to this car (and they integrate it right into the smart key) so I know it's possible, but this version is very pricey so I just wanted to see what other people were doing out there.
  • I gave that to my daughter's Yukon for Christmas a few years ago. It is great but I'm not sure it will work the same way on my Prius.
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