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0-60. on vw GTI (4 banger) '96-98

gduk3gduk3 Posts: 9
edited March 17 in Volkswagen
i was wondering whats the 0-60 on a gti 4 banger.
whenever i ask someone, all they would say its
slow... can someone tell me with numbers? also i
read an article that said when the golf GTI 4banger
reaches over 55mph, you have to worry about more
things than just the speed. what did they mean by
that??? i would really appreciate it if some can
help me here. thanks.
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  • oh yeah another thing. the only reason im wonder about the std GTI and not the vr6 is because of insurance. i've heard that the GTI vr6 insurance is higher than the std GTI. is it true? if so, is it a big difference. by about how much?. thanks
  • Sure, the VR6 will be more expensive to insure.
    It depends on your age and driving record though.
    I'm older and have a clean record - and my VR6
    is very economical to insure.... the 4-cyl GTI isn't a "real" GTI, it's a Golf GL with a Fuba antenna, a couple of cosmetic cues, and a GTI badge. They are slow as molasses (9.7 0-60 I believe.. arrgh!).
  • nedzelnedzel Posts: 787
    The Golf is just too heavy for the 4 cylinder. that was true of the MkIII Golf and is even more true with the new Mk IV. On the other hand, my 2000 GTI GLX really scoots ;-)
  • I drove(beat the hell out of) the 8v golfs Beatles and Jettas all day long at Driversfest this summer. At the end of the day when I got in my GTI VR6 it was like moving from a Geo Metro to a 1,500 hp 1/4 mile car. If you are looking to buy a VW, go back 2 or 3 years and buy a used GTI VR6 or Jetta GLX vr6. Insurence is no thing major. It's maybe $150 more a year than my old 94 Accord EX.

    -Mabe
    1995 GTI VR6
  • judasjudas Posts: 217
    until the 4 cylinder turbo hits the US (If thats where you live). It'll be cheaper than the VR6, lighter, better weight bias, and it's THE engine if you want to modify your car. 250 HP out of the 1.8T is about 2500 bucks. With just a chip exhaust and intake you'll be able to get it to 200 HP.
  • gduk3gduk3 Posts: 9
    are the reliability any good on vw's?
    i've heard negative stuff about it...is it true?
  • In Europe, VW's had an EXCELLENT reputation, except those junky Corrados/Golfs G60 supercharged.
  • The VR6 is a wonderful engine, true.
    But the 4 banger is just fine albeit not as powerful! I just sold my '98 after 30k wonderful miles. I don't know if I got lucky with a extra good as-built or the K & N filter helped alot.
    True, the VR6's will leave you behind but these 4's are much maligned by boy racers. Set your ego aside and try one. You'll save thousands. If you race all the time on tracks get a real racer. These cars on the road however are quite satisfactory. This from a Saab Aero and SC400 owner. I'll miss it. Especially the 40+MPG road trips with the air on!
  • only1harryonly1harry Posts: 1,136
    The problem is that the Golf is too heavy.
    The new Golfs averages about 2800lbs!!
    There is nothing wrong with the 4 cyl. 115hp engine. It has decent torque and it would work great in a 2400lb Civic but it's just underpowered for the total weight of the car.
    If the Golf were to weigh around 2500lbs it would be almost a whole second faster 0-60.. or low 9's. The average I 've seen is 10sec+ now..
    Take a 2260lb Civic hatchback with 106hp. 0-60 is 8.7-8.9s. A 2410lb Civic LX sedan w/same HP does it in 9.1-9.5s (I always give the low's & high's that I 've seen).
    I 'd say if they 're going to keep the current design and weight they need to up to the motor to put out around 20hp more for it to have decent acceleration.
    As far as the turbos go, many manufacturers don't export the turbo versions to the US. US insurance companies charge a heavy premium for turbos and turbos don't usually sell too well in the US. They 've done their market research..
    I wish they 'd bring some of those cars over here!
    Take the turbo charged Subaru Impreza WRX in Japan, 220hp! The RX7 twin turbo which is still produced over there, etc. etc. Although I think the GTI 150hp version would sell good here. But we get the VR6 (174hp) version so it's not bad.
    In Europe they 've had the Civic hatchback with the Integra GSR 170hp and call it VTi. They 've had it for years and comes with a sports suspension.. How come they didn't bring that little 2360lb pocket rocket over here? I can go on & on..
  • I have a '98 Golf GL and I love the acceleration. It is true that it is not as fast as the V6 or the turbo but it is still an incredible experience to drive. The motor pulls strongly and smoothly from 2000rpm to redline without a hickup in between. Freeway on ramps are no problem and passing is a quick 'drop it into 4th and go' situation. If you are not someone that needs to win every stoplight race, you don't need to pay the extra money. The incredible handling of the Golf is still there, the shifting is precise, and the car just feels fast. Don't buy into this "get all the horsepower you can afford" crap. This car goes and handles great and is all that you need. 80mph runs to Denver don't even tax it. Added bonus: 33mpg in mixed driving. Don't get me wrong, I like to run with the big boys now and then but for having fun in everyday driving, this car is it.
  • ramonramon Posts: 825
    Also the VR6 would bring the Golf to 3000lb car. And it would be alot more nose heavy thus hampering overall handling. A 1.8t would be jus tnice IMHO. I fyou want a VR6 engine, I suggest skip the Golf and ge tthe Jetta. At least you have hte extra trunk to help balance the rear a bit. Well unless you just want to go straight....
  • i put a mach 10 space mission ship engine and some rocket boosters into my '91 tercel, not to mension a 52 gallon nitrous oxide detane tank, with time placement valves along side a dual flux capacitor with time travel controls. Let me tell u ive blown away many gtis and golfs not to mension ferraris. i use lamborghini engines to motorize my power windows and door locks.
  • thats neat that your car can time travel. i tried to modify my car for time traveling but it was unsuccessful. well i have a vw golf gl its not that fast but im good friends with tiger woods. he has one too. he likes it because he plays golf and his car is named golf. get it "golf". we both take turns driving each others car. its fun because sometimes late at night we drive through the golf course. well i just lowerd my car to the ground its so low that it scrapes the ground when i drive and makes alot of sparks. people like to see that.
  • cinemafiacinemafia Posts: 57
    Well I guess Tiger Woods traded in his Golf for a Buick...have you seen the commercial? I mean c'mon do you really think a multi-millionaire golf pro would be driving around in a fricking Buick?

    Anyway, I once owned a '66 AMC Rambler that could travel at three and four sevenths the speed of light...well, as long as I didn't roll the windows down that is.

    But my current car, an '89 VW Cabriolet, can get up to about 316 mph with the 24 cylinder, 120 valve, 16 liter Behemat engine I stalled under the hood. Well actually it's not exactly under the hood, in fact it's so big compared to the car I had to remove the hood and the fenders and it completely blocks the windshield so I can't even see where I'm going. One time I was doing 210 mph. in a school zone and...well you'll see it in the papers.
  • only1harryonly1harry Posts: 1,136
    someone has been smoking something..
  • cinemafiacinemafia Posts: 57
    I smoke ganja
  • tutoo7tutoo7 Posts: 10
    Right now I have a GTI 1.8T and i added a chip to it. Im telling right now it is easily as pwerful or evem more powerful then the vr6.
  • dantleydantley Posts: 1
    Why not chip the VR6? Then who will be more powerful?

    '00 GTI VR6 (tropic orange)
    '00 Boxster S (artic silver)
  • judasjudas Posts: 217
    Probably still the 1.8T actually, the gains from chipping the VR6 (And most stock naturally aspirated engines) are fairly minimal, all it has to work with is timing, fuel delivery, etc. And VW already did a pretty good job with it. With just a chip you might be able to get another 5 or 10 horsepower. With the 1.8T it can up the boost pressure, so you can easily get another 35-50 HP with just a chip. No doubt about it, if you want modifications the 1.8T is THE engine to go with. For 1900 bones you can get a chip and an upgraded turbo that bumps you up to 225-235 HP. For that amount of money you're not going to be able to get anywhere near that with the VR6.
  • ramonramon Posts: 825
    I second that Judas. The vr6 when chipped can get about 190hp. That's all it can do. Also the 1.8T probably handles better due to lighter frontal weight compared to the heavy 2.8l VR6. In anycase, the 1.8T is the best buy for Golfs right now.
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