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All-New 2010 Legacy/Outback

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  • Bought brand new from the dealer on March 19, 2010, mileage todate: 1,700 miles.

    From the start already noticed that when backing up and shifting from Park to Reverse, majority of the time there will be a rather big jolt accompanied with a clunking/thudding noise. The problem is more pronounced on an incline surface.

    When shifting to Neutral and to Drive, there will be a little clicking noises.

    Never had this problem with previous 1995 and 2005 Legacy 2,5i and 2006 Outback 2.5i.
  • etan797733etan797733 Posts: 8
    edited July 2010
    Sorry, first time posting, thought I lost the previous message #1126 thus reposting this message.

    Bought brand new from dealer March 19, 2010, mileage todate: 1,700 miles.

    From the very beginning already noticed that when backing up and shifting from Park to Reverse, there will be a rather big jolt accompanied by a big clunking noise. This problem is more pronounced on an incline surface.

    When shifting to Neutral and to Drive, there will be little clicking noise at each stage.

    Didn't get the time to bring the car to the dealer yet.

    The engine noise is also rather loud after starting,

    Never had all these problems with previous 1995 and 2005 Legacy 2.5i and 2006 Outback 2.5i.

    Anybody has the same problems?

    Drove the car long distance for 300 miles on July 4th weekend. The drive was smooth and got 31 mpg.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,578
    Yours is the first I have seen of it, yet I strongly suspect you should have it looked at ASAP. It is entirely possible that something was just not assembled properly and you truly have a manufacturing defect, which is the whole point of the warranty. It is disappointing that you are experiencing the problem, but great that it manifested itself so early on so that you can have it addressed now for (hopefully) trouble-free ownership going forward.
    2010 Subaru Forester, 2011 Ford Fiesta, 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup, 1974 Ford Pinto Wagon
  • Thanks for the valuable advise. Will have it checked ASAP.
  • Recall ID # 10V283000 - STEERING:COLUMN - Get Details
    Recall Date: JUN 24, 2010
    Component: STEERING:COLUMN
    Model Affected: LEGACY
    Potential Units Affected: 73698

    Recall Date:JUN 24, 2010

    Model Affected:2010 SUBARU LEGACY

    Summary:SUBARU IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2010 OUTBACK AND LEGACY PASSENGER VEHICLES MANUFACTURED FROM FEBRUARY 16, 2009 THROUGH APRIL 12, 2010. THE WIRING IN THE STEERING COLUMN ELECTRICAL ROLL CONNECTOR LOCATED BEHIND THE VEHICLE'S STEERING WHEEL MAY DEVELOP STRESS CRACKS AND EVENTUALLY BREAK. IF THIS WERE TO HAPPEN CERTAIN ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS MAY NOT OPERATE AS INTENDED.

    Consequence:POSSIBLE CIRCUITS AFFECTED ARE THE DRIVER'S FRONTAL AIRBAG, PADDLE SHIFTER FUNCTION, CRUISE CONTROL, HORN CONTROL AND RADIO FUNCTIONS INCREASING THE RISK OF A CRASH.

    Remedy:DEALERS WILL CHECK LOT NUMBER OF THE STEERING ROLL CONNECTOR. THE ROLL CONNECTOR WILL BE REPLACED WITH A NEW ONE IF THE LOT NUMBER SHOWED ANY AFFECTED RANGE OF THE FAILURE OCCURRENCE. THIS SERVICE WILL BE PERFORMED FREE OF CHARGE. THE SAFETY RECALL BEGAN ON JULY 7, 2010. OWNERS MAY CONTACT SUBARU AT 1-800-782-2783.

    Potential Units Affected:73698

    Notes:SUBARU OF AMERICA, INC. WVR-28
    Recall ID # 10V196000 - ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:COOLING SYSTEM:HOSE - Get Details
    Recall Date: MAY 07, 2010
    Component: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:COOLING SYSTEM:HOSE
    Model Affected: LEGACY
    Potential Units Affected: 29443

    Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2010/subaru/legacy/recalls/index.html#ixzz0tmFizd- WX
  • birdboybirdboy Posts: 158
    FYI Just received a call from dealership informing me that technicians are coming in to fix the on going steering wheel vibration, excessive road feel, and shimmy at high speeds that I have had since I bought the 2010 outback in February. They are going by a list and have reached my vehicle.I am happy that SOA has kept their promise to me and that they have followed through with informing me. I just hope that this fix will be the end of this problem.
  • Does SOA designate the specific dealership that you have to go to or you can just go to any other dealership to have the problem fixed?

    So far, my 2010 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium does not have the steering wheel vibration problem yet. The problem is with the jolting and clunking when shifting from Park to Reverse, which is very very rare even for any old old cars.

    Don't know if anybody has the same problem as mine.
  • matt1320matt1320 Posts: 20
    Our '10 OB 2.5i CVT Premium goes clunk when shifting from P to R too. Thankfully, no front end vibe. So far, the other 3 recalls have checked out OK, no repairs/replacements necessary. More recalls to come???
  • Good for you with the recalls, Matt. Too bad you also have the shifting problem. Did the dealer check on the shifting problem? What did they say?

    I have already e-mailed the Customer Care Dept. of SOA in New Jersey about the shifting problem, they immediately responded and told me to bring the car to the dealership for check up. Didn't get a chance to do that yet.

    So far haven't received any notification yet for any of the recalls in the Long Island, New York area. My only problems are the jolting and clunking when shifting from P to R, and also loud engine noise when first started, altho after a while the noise subsides but still a little loud as compared with other cars, e.g.Camry, Accord, etc. So far, don't have the steering wheel problem yet.

    Hopefully, SOA will issue recalls for the shifting and engine noise problems soon.
  • gmginsfogmginsfo San Diego, CAPosts: 113
    This may well have been noted already, but the latest issue of "Drive" says that folding mirrors are standard on the 2011 Outbacks. Good move, Subaru!

    I never felt the need to look into the H6 when I bought my 2010 Outback last New Year's Eve, because getting the CVT was my chief motivation. At 32+ MGP on the freeway, I've no regrets, power or otherwise.
  • gmginsfogmginsfo San Diego, CAPosts: 113
    One of the major selling points of the 2010 Outback I bought was that it had a manual rearview mirror. The auto/compass one in my 2003 Forester died in its last year and actually never worked to my satisfaction. Simple = beautiful!
  • gmginsfogmginsfo San Diego, CAPosts: 113
    edited July 2010
    At just shy of 6,5800 miles, I thought I'd report in. Have had no major problems at all but a consistent nagging minor one: the tire low air pressure light comes on about every 10 days and the two rear tires always need a couple of pounds added. I've checked the tires and don't see anything that could cause leaks, so I wonder if this is in the pressure monitoring system. Anyone else experienced this?

    I've also been using the downshifting feature of the CVT to slow the car, which is something I never thought I'd be doing. I'm careful to do so only when the shift arrows allow for it, but is this really as harmless to the tranny/engine/suspension as it's claimed to be? I'm downshifting at reaonable speeds - 60 to 5th, 40 to 4th, etc. - but can't help feeling that the sometimes perceptible impact on the engine might make for problems down the line.

    Likes: mileage, tunes, looks (I get more compliments on this car than any other I've ever owned, but then there are a Pinto, Renault 12, and VW in my past), and cargo space.

    Dislikes: smaller sunroof than the one I got spoiled by on my 2003 Forester, lack of flipout cupholders at rear of console, lack of folding mirrors. Oh, and those three service bulletin letters I've received and am waiting for the 7500 mile service to deal with.

    Overall, I'm very pleased with this car and am glad I sprung for the Outback instead of getting another Forester.
  • Hi,
    Looking for help on this, my '10 Legacy limited will connect 50% of the time. The other times I have to search for my Legacy connection with my Blackberry Pearl. Also, I find the sound out of the one central speaker in the center counsel is tinny and not loud enough at highway speed.

    Any suggestions on improving these two things?
  • repoman1repoman1 Posts: 64
    I have a 2010 Outback Limited with NAV. After a heavy rain all of the speakers except the two front stop working. This happens the next morning after the rain. It is parked in a garage overnight. This has happened three times and every time the speakers did not work in the morning but after the car sat parked at work all day they worked again. I tried to get it to the dealership in the morning last time but they were short techs and could not look at it. Anyone have same problem? Any ideas?
  • Repoman1,

    This is just a wild-a** guess, but the first thought that popped in my head was to wonder if your car had the moonroof, and if a clogged or blocked moonroof drain tube was somehow leading to water dripping down on some wiring for the rear speakers. Do you see any other signs of moisture inside of the car, after a rain.

    I'm not sure what to make of the fact that your car is inside a garage overnight - although I suppose it is possible for a delayed effect. I wouldn't think that road spray while driving could get anywhere near to the speaker wires.

    (What I don't know is the routing of the wires for the rear speakers, and/or subwoofer. I don't know if the wires are up in the roof area, and then come down the B-pillars between the front and rear doors, or if the wiring is basically at floor level.)

    You could potentially debug this more thoroughly by pulling your head end unit, and checking for continuity in the wires, while/when the problem occurs. And potentially you can double-confirm that it is rain-associated, by trying to cause the problem yourself with a hose providing the water.
  • Repoman1,

    This is just a wild-a** guess, but the first thought that popped in my head was to wonder if your car had the moonroof, and if a clogged or blocked moonroof drain tube was somehow leading to water dripping down on some wiring for the rear speakers. Do you see any other signs of moisture inside of the car, after a rain?

    I'm not sure what to make of the fact that your car is inside a garage overnight - although I suppose it is possible for a delayed effect to exist. I wouldn't think that road spray while driving could get anywhere near to the speaker wires. But perhaps the delayed effect is still consistent with slow dripping from the moonroof area.

    (What I don't know is the routing of the wires for the rear speakers, and/or subwoofer. I don't know if the rear speaker wires are up in the roof area, and then come down the B-pillars between the front and rear doors, or if the wiring is basically at floor level.)

    You could potentially debug this more thoroughly by pulling your head end unit, and checking for continuity in the wires, while/when the problem is occuring. And potentially you can double-confirm that it is actually rain-associated, by trying to cause the problem yourself with a hose providing the water.

    Just some food for thought...
  • repoman1repoman1 Posts: 64
    I've tried hosing it down and could not cause the problem. It only happens after very heavy rain, like 2 inches or more in 4-8 hours. I haven't seen any moisture in the vehicle. I'll check the sunroof drains.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,694
    http://www.autoblog.com/2010/07/24/report-subaru-issues-recall-stop-sale-on-2010- -11-outback-and-l/

    809 cars involved.

    So only 809 manual-equipped new-gen Legacys and Outbacks have been sold? Amazing (and depressing).

    Bob
  • saedavesaedave Chicago, ILPosts: 685
    So only 809 manual-equipped new-gen Legacys and Outbacks have been sold? Amazing (and depressing).

    Bob, you could be correct, but it is not clear that 809 units were the entire production.

    Dave
  • easypareasypar ColoradoPosts: 186
    I'd have to say it's "affected" not "sold". While it's possible that only that manual equipped units have been sold it doesn't seem likely. Isn't the manual the only trans available for one engine option?

    easypar
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,694
    You're right. It probably didn't effect the "entire" 6-speed manual production.

    Bob
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,578
    No, the 6-speed is available on the Legacy/Outback and Legacy/Outback Premium with the 2.5L engine (in lieu of the CVT).

    I wonder if this is related, at all, to the intermittent power loss reported by some manual owners?
    2010 Subaru Forester, 2011 Ford Fiesta, 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup, 1974 Ford Pinto Wagon
  • birdboybirdboy Posts: 158
    I am asking anyone out there to share with me their experiences with driving the 2010 2.5 outback at speeds greater than 70MPH. I have a distinct vibration and shake in the wheel. This only happens at high speeds. I also notice that there is a lot of road feel even at lower speeds. Is this road feel common or typical of Subaru.?
    My car has been in the shop 3x so far for this issue. Thus far , Subaru has balanced my tires, did a road force balance, and just last week installed a body vibration kit.
    The vibration is less since the kit was installed , but still there at 70-75 mph. I am curious to know what your experiences are as I have no comparison. Is this normal? When I am driving at a speed of 70 on a relatively smooth road, NYS thruway, and rest my hand lightly on the wheel , my hand can be seen slightly shaking or quivering. There is also a lot of road feel.
    Thank you for nay and all responses.
  • prigglypriggly Posts: 642
    The car should not shake at any speed.

    The suspension of the new Outback is defective.

    This defect is well documented on the internet.

    My advice to you is to dump this defective car or learn to live with it.

    Subaru does not give a rat's **s.
  • There is extensive discussion of this issue at www.subaruoutback.org, in the section for 2010-2011 Outbacks. There is also a brief thread devoted to it here in the Carspace forums. It also seems to affect Legacy's also.

    I don't want to belabor the issue here, when there is so much other discussion elsewhere, but a few things to mention:

    - for some reason, it only seems to affect some cars, although the percentage of affected cars is very unclear. It is also not totally clear if the problem can develop "down the road", or if new cars either have it, or don't have it. I would say that in most cases, it seems to be present from the beginning (usually experienced in the 70-75 mph speed range).

    - Various remedies have been applied to affected cars - the usual first step is road-force wheel balancing. But some cars also received a heavier spring insert inside of the steering rack (which reportedly provides some level of reduction of the symptoms, and may also make the steering feel a bit less "light"). One person on the subaruoutback.org forum apparently received a replacement steering rack, and a few people have reported receiving new bushings of some sort, in the front suspension.

    - The only official TSB on the subject came out belatedly in May 2010, more or less summarizing the above partial remedies.

    - For the past couple of months there have been reports/rumors that Subaru was working on a "real fix", whatever that may mean, and that a TSB for the "real fix" was supposedly due to come out in July (this month). But this hasn't happened yet, and it is not clear that it will happen. (The reports of this "fix in progress" aren't just internet rumors - I think some of this has come from conversations that some affected owners have had with Subaru corporate people.)
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,578
    edited July 2010
    As for "road feel," Subaru used to be very good at that, and it is one of those things that makes a car enjoyable to drive. The newest iteration of the Outback (and Forester) reduced road feel dramatically (and, in my opinion, disappointingly), but it is not, thankfully, completely gone (as you would find in a typical GM or Toyota).

    The steering vibration, though, is a separate issue.
    2010 Subaru Forester, 2011 Ford Fiesta, 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup, 1974 Ford Pinto Wagon
  • saedavesaedave Chicago, ILPosts: 685
    The newest iteration of the Outback (and Forester) reduced road feel dramatically (and, in my opinion, disappointingly), but it is not, thankfully, completely gone (as you would find in a typical GM or Toyota).

    Wes

    But they are safer for the average driver than older models. I could confidently change lanes with my 1997 Legacy GT with only a touch to the wheel, but my partner wig wagged down the road when he was driving. The self centering and lighter touch on my new Forester XT are both better than on my previous Outback 3.0R.

    I have noticed a lot of lazy drivers recently who don't turn the wheel far enough and fast enough for the attempted manuever. Subaru recent steering changes may particularly help such drivers.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,578
    Sadly, that assessment is likely correct. I have grown accustomed to it on my '10 Forester, but I sure don't enjoy it. Interestingly, even my Forester has more road feel than my '69 Chevrolet C20 pickup, so that trend is not a "new car" phenomenon! :D

    I thoroughly enjoyed the steering on my '96, '07, and '08 Outbacks - I thought they were nicely, if not perfectly, balanced.
    2010 Subaru Forester, 2011 Ford Fiesta, 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup, 1974 Ford Pinto Wagon
  • dcm61dcm61 Posts: 1,472
    ... even my Forester has more road feel than my '69 Chevrolet C20 pickup, so that trend is not a "new car" phenomenon!

    That brings back memories of driving my Dad's '68 Ford F100 with manual steering and three on the tree on the hilly/windy Saw Mill / Merritt Parkway through NY & CT.

    The steering box had tons of play and the shifter not only had a long throw (way longer than Chevy), but it also tended to jam going into 2nd. Now that was a workout. :surprise:

    Oh, but that 360 V8 w/ Holley 4 barrel just purred. :)
  • shuneeshunee Posts: 1
    I have a 2009 Forrester. My radio works but reception is not good in Asheville area. It worked well in Milwaukee, WI. I believe that radio or antena are weak compared to others because 1) my wife's 2010 VW Jetta has perfect reception of all the stations that I am interested in and 2) our realitor had satellite radio on her Outback in order to listen to radio.

    Anyone had this experience? Is it the radio or antenna?

    I am going to try to increase length of the antenna to see if that helps.
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