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2009 GRAND CARAVAN/T&C FEED BACK

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  • etpetp Posts: 153
    I strongly disagree with that statement. However, do not increase your tire pressure above the max cold inflation on the side wall without doing so at your own risk. I have been running 44-51 PSI for 10 years with out problem on 7 different vehicles. Visit the prius forum if you need the truth on this. It is just the opposite of what shipo said BTW.
  • etpetp Posts: 153
    http://www.advanceautoparts.com/english/youcan/asp/ccr/ccr20030101gm.asp

    Tire Pressure | Back To Top
    The first place to start any mileage self-help program is to purchase a tire gauge, keep it handy, and use it often. Most vehicle manufacturers recommend tire inflation pressures that are a compromise of comfort and safety. In the vehicles owners manual are listed a range of tire inflation pressures usually to compensate for loaded and unloaded conditions. One of the most important changes you can make is to keep your tires inflated at the highest recommended level. If the manual gives only a single inflation pressure, read the information on the sidewall of your tires concerning maximum safe inflation pressure and add 3-5 pounds of air making certain not to exceed the stated maximum inflation pressure noted on the tire. Keep a close eye on your tires for uneven tire wear. Greater tread wear in the center means too much pressure. If this happens, rotate the tires and slightly reduce air pressure.
    Step
    6Tire inflation is the final factor to note. Lower pressure causes increased side wall flexing. Under inflated tires can add 6% to your fuel consumption, which could easily translate into burning an extra gallon of gas with every fill up if you’re getting around 20 MPG. You really notice the effects of tire pressure on energy use when peddling a bicycle. One reason why road bikes have thin high pressure tires is that the rolling resistance is far less than with a mountain bike. In fact, the Malibu Triathlon has different divisions for mountain and road bike riders. Tires tend to lose air pressure more in the winter, 1 pound of pressure for every drop of 10 degrees Fahrenheit so check them more frequently when the air chills. Air Alert makes a set of four self-calibrating tire LED tire valve caps that start to flash when your tire pressure drops 4 pounds per square inch. They are available with free shipping for $29.99 from Amazon.com
    http://www.hybridcars.com/forums/right-tire-pressure-or-overinflation.html
  • etpetp Posts: 153
    Mine used oil the first 2K and then not a drop anymore. I just bumped up my prius tires to 50PSI/side wall reads 51PSI. However my Colorado, Civic hybrid, and 3 other Dodge Caravans in the family all run at 44 PSI. Your tires will last longer and run cooler as well as get better MPG. You will also get a little firmer ride but not like my Prius. If you like a soft ride run them at 38-40 PSI.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Disagree all you want, that doesn't mean what I say is incorrect. The following is a link that references a very interesting dissertation written by a tire engineer. As an engineer myself, my opinion is that his words make a huge amount of sense, especially so when compared to a bunch of folks mixing fact and fantasy on a Prius message board. :shades:

    http://forum.chryslerminivan.net/showthread.php?t=13075

    Best regards,
    Shipo
  • etpetp Posts: 153
    Old, you may want to go to walmart and get two jugs of 0W30 mobil 1//there is a $10 rebate on each jug with a limit of two rebates. The price in the store was $22. Do an online search for the rebate.
  • etpetp Posts: 153
    Old, we need some more 2009 GC/TC owners as you are. We are getting to many posts by people who don't even own a 2009 or are in the process of buying a 2009. I wanted this to track issues with just the 2009 through all the bankruptcy and government warranty programs. The 4.0/6speed was the best combo on the lot.
    As far as dealer service on our 2009 GCs and TCs it looks as that is very dealer specific so far at 3 different dealerships. My mixed driving MPG continues to move up (23.5) and my great initial MPG on the highway (two long trips) has dropped to around 25 or less ( was 27.3). My Prius is up to 54-58 in mixed driving. AC on really hits my MPG on the Prius. Sold my last Honda on Tue. So just two vehicles in my stable at this time. We definitely prefer the GC for trips as we can load up the grand kids and take them to Disney. If I ever wear these tires out ( before I give it to my son) I will check out the LRR Michelins that just came out.
  • oldold Posts: 13
    Hi ETP,

    No, I did buy the 09 4.0/6spd combo. We had it for a couple months now. So far no real major problems. Your mileage is excellent. We are not getting those yet. But we have about 2600 or so miles on it.
    the Van is definately great for long trips to the beach house.
    the 4.0 really has a nice exhaust sound to it and has suprising power to it. Keeping up with fast drivers is no problem.

    A question: In the service book, I believe it states change oil every 6000 or 6500 miles.
    When we turn on the van, it tells us to change oil soon. We called the dealer and they said you need to change every 3000 miles.
    How often do you change your oil? I don't want to mess with the Lifetime powertrain warranty, so I want to make sure we follow the proper maintanence schedule. Thanks
  • etpetp Posts: 153
    I try to change mine every 3k but if it slips to 5k no big deal. I also use Mobile1 from Walmart and take the jug in and have then use my oil. I noticed my change warning came on also and it is too early for a change. I think they forgot to reset it at my last change. I believe that 3k is for heavy duty stop and go driving conditions
    I change all my vehicles every 3K but 5K should be ok if you use synthetic.

    Yep this 4.0 is a hot engine to say the least and the 6 speed rocks. My daughter bought the non touring TC and she notices the difference in the ride and handling.

    Did you get the touring GC?
  • etpetp Posts: 153
    ENGINE OIL
    WARNING: New or used engine oil can be irritating to the skin. Avoid prolonged or repeated skin contact with engine oil. Contaminants in used engine oil, caused by internal combustion, can be hazardous to your health. Thoroughly wash exposed skin with soap and water. Do not wash skin with gasoline, diesel fuel, thinner, or solvents, health problems can result. Do not pollute, dispose of used engine oil properly. Contact your dealer or government agency for location of collection center in your area.

    When service is required, Chrysler recommends that only Mopar® brand parts, lubricants and chemicals be used. Mopar® provides the best engineered products for servicing Chrysler vehicles.

    Only lubricants bearing designations defined by the following organization should be used.

    Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE)
    American Petroleum Institute (API)
    National Lubricating Grease Institute (NLGI)
    Association des Constructeurs Européens d' Automobiles (European Automobile Manufacturers Association) (ACEA)

    API CERTIFICATION AND LICENSE SYMBOL


    Use an engine oil that is API Certified and Licensed to display the certification mark. MOPAR® provides engine oils that meet or exceed, Material Standard MS-6395 requirement.

    SAE VISCOSITY


    Engine oils are designed to improve low temperature starting and vehicle fuel economy. Refer to the engine oil filler cap for the preferred engine oil viscosity grade for each vehicle . SAE viscosity grades are used to specify the correct viscosity oil for an engine. Use only Multi-Viscosity oils. These are specified with a dual SAE viscosity grade which indicates the cold (5W) to hot (20, 30) temperature performance range of the oil.

    ACEA CATEGORIES
    For countries that use the ACEA European Oil Categories for service fill oils, use engine oils that meet the requirements of ACEA A1/B1, A2/B2, or A3/B3.

    CONTAINER IDENTIFICATION


    The Engine Oil Certification Mark was developed and trademarked by the API to refer customers to those engine oils preferred by the automobile manufacturers. This symbol means that the oil has been certified and licensed by the American Petroleum Institute (API). This certification mark will only be found on the front of the oil containers . Those oils that do not display the “Mark” on the front of the container should not be used.

    Chrysler only recommends API Certified engine oils that meet the requirements of Material Standard MS-6395. Use Mopar or an equivalent oil meeting the specification MS-6395.

    SYNTHETIC ENGINE OILS
    There are a number of engine oils being promoted as either synthetic or semi-synthetic. If you chose to use such a product, use only those oils that are certified by the American Petroleum Institute (API) to display the “Certification Mark” and show SAE viscosity grade recommended for each vehicle. Follow the service schedule that describes your driving type.

    ENGINE OIL ADDITIVES/SUPPLEMENTS
    The manufacturer does not recommend the addition of any engine oil additives/supplements to the specified engine oil. Engine oil additives/supplements should not be used to enhance engine oil performance. Engine oil additives/supplements should not be used to extend engine oil change intervals. No additive is known to be safe for engine durability and can degrade emission components. Additives can contain undesirable materials that harm the long term durability of engines and emission systems by:

    Increasing the level of Phosphorus and Sulfur in the engine oil. The API Certified Engine Oils control the Phosphorus and Sulfur contents of the oil to levels that reduce the contamination effect on the vehicles emission control system.
    Altering the viscosity characteristics of the engine oil so that it no longer meets the requirements of the specified viscosity grade.
    Creating potential for an undesirable additive compatibility interaction in the engine crankcase. The engine oils contain a performance additive system carefully developed to optimize the oils performance in the engine. The addition of supplements may cause the oil to thicken prematurely, cause excessive deposit build-up and potentially shorten engine life.
  • etpetp Posts: 153
    MAINTENANCE SCHEDULES - NAFTA
    The oil change indicator system will remind you that it is time to take the vehicle in for scheduled maintenance.

    On Electronic Vehicle Information Center (EVIC) equipped vehicles “Oil Change Required” will be displayed in the EVIC and a single chime will sound, indicating that an oil change is necessary.

    On Non-EVIC equipped vehicles “Change Oil” will flash in the instrument cluster odometer and a single chime will sound, indicating that an oil change is necessary.

    Based on engine operation conditions the oil change indicator message will illuminate, this means that service is required for the vehicle. Have the vehicle serviced as soon as possible, within the next 500 miles (805 km).

    NOTE: The oil change indicator message will not monitor the time since the last oil change. Change the vehicles oil if it has been 6 months since the last oil change even if the oil change indicator message is NOT illuminated.
    Change the engine oil more often if you drive the vehicle off-road for an extended period of time.
    Under no circumstances should oil change intervals exceed 6,000 miles (10,000 km) or 6 months, whichever comes first.


    Oil change indicator - Reset
    The vehicle is equipped with an engine oil change indicator system. The “Oil Change Required” message will flash in the EVIC display for approximately 10 seconds after a single chime has sounded to indicate the next scheduled oil change interval. The engine oil change indicator system is duty cycle based, which means the engine oil change interval may fluctuate dependent upon your personal driving style.

    Unless reset, this message will continue to display each time you turn the ignition switch to the ON/RUN position. To turn off the message temporarily, press and release the Menu button. To reset the oil change indicator system (after performing the scheduled maintenance) perform the following procedure:

    Turn the ignition switch to the “ON” position (Do not start the engine).
    Fully depress the accelerator pedal slowly three times within 10 seconds.
    Turn the ignition switch to the “LOCK” position.

    NOTE: If the indicator message illuminates when you start the vehicle, the oil change indicator system did not reset. If necessary repeat this procedure.

    At Each Stop for Fuel
    Check the engine oil level about 5 minutes after a fully warmed engine is shut off. Checking the oil level while the vehicle is on level ground will improve the accuracy of the oil level reading. Add oil only when the level is at or below the SAFE or MIN mark.
    Check the windshield washer solvent and add if required.
    Once a Month
    Check tire pressure and look for unusual wear or damage.
    Inspect the battery and clean and tighten the terminals as required.
    Check the fluid levels of coolant reservoir, brake master cylinder, power steering and transmission and add as needed.
    Check all lights and other electrical items for correct operation.
    At Each Oil Change
    Change the engine oil filter.
    Inspect the brake hoses and lines.
    CAUTION: Failure to perform the required maintenance items may result in damage to the vehicle.

    REQUIRED MAINTENANCE INTERVALS
    Perform Maintenance Every Maintenance Items
    (Where time and mileage are listed, follow the interval that occurs first.)
    Miles Kilometers Months
    6000 10000 6 Change the engine oil and engine oil filter.
    Rotate tires.

    12000 20000 12 Change the engine oil and engine oil filter.
    Rotate tires.
    If using the vehicle for any of the following: Dusty or off-road conditions. Inspect the engine air cleaner filter, replace if necessary.
    Replace the air conditioning filter.
    Inspect the brake linings, replace if necessary.
    Inspect the CV Joints. Perform the first inspection at 12,000 miles (20 000 km) or 12 months.
    Inspect the exhaust system. Perform the first inspection at 12,000 miles (20 000 km) or 12 months.

    18000 30000 18 Change the engine oil and engine oil filter.
    Rotate tires.

    24000 40000 24 Change the engine oil and engine oil filter.
    Rotate tires.
    If using the vehicle for any of the following: Dusty or off-road conditions. Inspect the engine air cleaner filter, replace if necessary.
    Replace the air conditioning filter.
    Inspect the brake linings, replace if necessary.
    Inspect the CV Joints.
    Inspect the exhaust system.
    Inspect the front suspension, tie rod ends and boot seals, replace if necessary.

    30000 50000 30 Change the engine oil and engine oil filter.
    Rotate tires.
    Replace the engine air cleaner filter.

    36000 60000 36 Change the engine oil and engine oil filter.
    Rotate tires.
    If using the vehicle for any of the following: Dusty or off-road conditions. Inspect the engine air cleaner filter, replace if necessary.
    Replace the air conditioning filter.
    Inspect the brake linings, replace if necessary.

    42000 70000 42 Change the engine oil and engine oil filter.
    Rotate tires.

    48000 80000 48 Change the engine oil and engine oil filter.
    Rotate tires.
    If using the vehicle for any of the following: Dusty or off-road conditions. Inspect the engine air cleaner filter, replace if necessary.
    Replace the air conditioning filter.
    Inspect the brake linings, replace if necessary.
    Inspect the CV Joints.
    Inspect the exhaust system.
    Inspect the front suspension, tie rod ends and boot seals, replace if necessary.

    54000 90000 54 Change the engine oil and engine oil filter.
    Rotate tires.

    60000 100000 60 Change the engine oil and engine oil filter.
    Rotate tires.
    Replace the engine air cleaner filter.
    Replace the air conditioning filter.
    Inspect the brake linings, replace if necessary.
    Change the automatic transaxle fluid & filter if using the vehicle for any of the following: police, taxi, fleet or frequent trailer towing.
    Flush and replace the engine coolant at 60 months if not done at 102,000 miles (170 000 km).

    66000 110000 66 Change the engine oil and engine oil filter.
    Rotate tires.

    72000 120000 72 Change the engine oil and engine oil filter.
    Rotate tires.
    If using the vehicle for any of the following: Dusty or off-road conditions. Inspect the engine air cleaner filter, replace if necessary.
    Replace the air conditioning filter.
    Inspect the brake linings, replace if necessary.
    Inspect the CV Joints.
    Inspect the exhaust system.
    Inspect the front suspension, tie rod ends and boot seals, replace if necessary.

    78000 130000 78 Change the engine oil and engine oil filter.
    Rotate tires.

    84000 140000 84 Change the engine oil and engine oil filter.
    Rotate tires.
    If using the vehicle for any of the following: Dusty or off-road conditions. Inspect the engine air cleaner filter, replace if necessary.
    Replace the air conditioning filter.
    Inspect the brake linings, replace if necessary.

    90000 150000 90 Change the engine oil and engine oil filter.
    Rotate tires.
    Replace t
  • etpetp Posts: 153
    5 YEAR INSPECTION - LIFETIME POWERTRAIN WARRANTY
    The following steps outline the dealer inspection procedure required every 5 years for vehicles covered under the terms of the Lifetime Powertrain Warranty. Refer to the appropriate warranty information for additional terms and coverages applicable to the Lifetime Powertrain Warranty.

    1. Lift the vehicle on a suitable hoist.
    2. Check all Powertrain components for leaks or physical damage. Note any concerns.
    3. Lower the vehicle and check the level and condition of the engine oil.
    4. Connect a diagnostic scan tool and check for any Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC).
  • etpetp Posts: 153
    FLUIDS, LUBRICANTS, AND GENUINE PARTS

    ENGINE
    Component Fluid, Lubricant, and Genuine Part
    Engine Coolant MOPAR ® Antifreeze/Coolant Five Year/100,000 Mile Formula HOAT (Hybrid Organic Additive Technology)
    Engine Oil (3.3L and 3.8L Engines) Use API Certified SAE 5W-20 Engine Oil, meeting the requirements of Chrysler Material Standard MS-6395. Refer to your oil filler cap for correct SAE grade
    Engine Oil (4.0L Engine) Use API Certified SAE 10W-30 Engine Oil, meeting the requirements of Chrysler Material Standard MS-6395. Refer to your oil filler cap for correct SAE grade
    Oil Filter (3.3L and 3.8L Engines) MOPAR ® Engine Oil Filter (P/N 04105409) or equivalent
    Oil Filter (4.0L Engine) MOPAR ® Engine Oil Filter (P/N 04884899AB) or equivalent
    Spark Plugs (3.3L and 3.8L Engines) RE14PLP5 (Gap 0.050 in [1.27 mm])
    Spark Plugs (4.0L Engine) ZFR5LP-13G (Gap 0.050 in [1.27 mm])
    Fuel Selection (3.3L and 3.8L Engines) 87 Octane
    Fuel Selection (4.0L Engine) 87 Octane Acceptable — 89 Recommended

    ENGINE - EXPORT
    Component Fluid, Lubricant, and Genuine Part
    Engine Coolant MOPAR ® Antifreeze/Coolant Five Year/100,000 Mile Formula HOAT (Hybrid Organic Additive Technology)
    Engine Oil - Gasoline (Non ACEA Categories) Use API Certified SAE 5W-20 engine oil, meeting the requirements of Chrysler Material Standard MS-6395. Refer to your engine oil filler cap for correct SAE grade. SAE 5W-30 engine oil approved to MB 229.31 or MB 229.51 may be used when SAE 5W-20 engine oil is not available.
    Engine Oil - Gasoline (ACEA Categories) For countries that use the ACEA European Oil Categories for Service Fill Oils, use engine oils meeting the requirements of ACEA C3, and approved to MB 229.31 or MB 229.51. SAE 5W-30 engine oil approved to MB 229.31 or MB 229.51 may be used when SAE 5W-20 engine oil is not available.
    Engine Oil - Diesel (without Particulate Filter) Use SAE 0W-40 Diesel Engine Oils confirming to API (American Petroleum Institute) Quality CI-4 or CJ-4. For countries that use the ACEA European Oil Categories for Service Fill Oils, use engine oils meeting the requirements of ACEA C3 and approved to MB 229.31 or MB 229.51.
    Engine Oil - Diesel (with Particulate Filter) Use SAE 5W-30 Diesel Engine Oils confirming to API (American Petroleum Institute) Quality CI-4 or CJ-4. For countries that use the ACEA European Oil Categories for Service Fill Oils, use engine oils meeting the requirements of ACEA C3 (LOW ASH) and approved to MB 229.31 or MB 229.51.
    Oil Filter (3.8L Engine) MOPAR ® Engine Oil Filter (P/N 04884899AB) or equivalent
    Oil Filter (2.8L Diesel Engine) MOPAR ® Engine Oil Filter (P/N 5003558AA)
    Spark Plugs (3.8L Engine) RE14PLP5 (Gap 0.050 in [1.27 mm])
    Fuel Selection (3.8L Engine) 91 Octane
    Fuel Selection (2.8L Diesel Engine) 50 Cetane or higher (Less than 15 ppm Sulfur)

    CHASSIS
    Component Fluids, Lubricants and Genuine Parts.
    Automatic Transmission Mopar ® ATF+4 Automatic Transmission Fluid
    Brake Master Cylinder Mopar ® DOT 3, SAE J1703 should be used. If DOT 3, SAE J1703 brake fluid is not available, then DOT 4 is acceptable. Use only recommended brake fluids.
    Power Steering Reservoir Mopar ® Power Steering Fluid +4 or Mopar ® ATF+4 Automatic Transmission Fluid

    CAPACITIES
    Description U.S Metric
    Fuel (approximate)
    All Engines 20 Gallons 76 Liters
    Engine Oil-With Filter
    3.3L and 3.8L Engine (SAE 5W-20, API Certified) 5.0 Quarts 4.7 Liters
    4.0L Engine (SAE 10W-30 API Certified) 5.5 Quarts 5.2 Liters
    Cooling System *
    3.3L, 3.8L, and 4.0L Engine (MOPAR® Engine Coolant/Antifreeze 5 Year/100,000 Mile Formula) 13.4 Quarts 12.6 Liters
    * Includes heater and coolant recovery bottle filled to MAX level. Add 2.9 Qts (2.8 L) if equipped with a rear heater.
    Power Steering System
    Power Steering 2.5 Pints 1.2 Liters
    A/C Refrigerant System
    Front A/C Only 1.75 Pounds 0.79 Kilograms
    Front and Rear A/C 2.44 Pounds 1.11 Kilograms
    Automatic Transmission
    Automatic Transaxle - 4XTE Service Fill 4.0 Quarts 3.8 Liters
    Automatic Transaxle - 4XTE Overhaul Fill 9.7 Quarts 9.2 Liters
    Automatic Transmission 62TE Service Fill 5.5 Quarts 5.2 Liters
    Automatic Transmission 62TE Fill 9.0 Quarts 8.5 Liters

    CAPACITIES - EXPORT
    Description U.S Metric
    Fuel (Approximate) 20 Gallons 76 Liters
    Engine Oil with Filter
    3.8L Engine 5.0 Quarts 4.7 Liters
    2.8L Diesel Engine 7.0 Quarts 6.6 Liters
    Cooling System *
    3.8L Engine (MOPAR® Engine Coolant/Antifreeze 5 Year/100,000 Mile Formula) 13.4 Quarts 12.6 Liters
    2.8L Diesel Engine (MOPAR® Engine Coolant/Antifreeze 5 Year/100,000 Mile Formula) 14.5 Quarts 13.8 Liters
    * Includes heater and coolant recovery bottle filled to MAX level. Add 2.9 Qts (2.8 L) if equipped with a rear heater.
    Power Steering System
    Power Steering 2.5 Pints 1.2 Liters
    A/C Refrigerant System
    Front A/C Only 1.75 Pounds 0.79 Kilograms
    Front and Rear A/C 2.44 Pounds 1.11 Kilograms
    Automatic Transmission
    Automatic Transaxle - 4XTE Service Fill 4.0 Quarts 3.8 Liters
    Automatic Transaxle - 4XTE Overhaul Fill 9.7 Quarts 9.2 Liters
    Automatic Transmission 62TE Service Fill 5.5 Quarts 5.2 Liters
    Automatic Transmission 62TE Fill 9.0 Quarts 8.5 Liters
  • etpetp Posts: 153
    I have the complete service set so if you need anything just ask.
  • etpetp Posts: 153
    I buy the cheapest gas I can find! That is the first time I noticed 89 octane.
  • oldold Posts: 13
    Hi Thanks for your post.

    This line:
    REQUIRED MAINTENANCE INTERVALS
    Perform Maintenance Every Maintenance Items
    (Where time and mileage are listed, follow the interval that occurs first.)
    Miles Kilometers Months
    6000 10000 6 Change the engine oil and engine oil filter.
    Rotate tires.


    Shows you only need to change the oil every 6000 miles. I'm wondering why it's telling me to change the oil soon at 2600 miles.

    With my Acura, I'm suppose to change every 7500, and the maintenance light comes on at around every 7000 or so.
    Dodge must've forgot to update it..??

    I don't think I've had a car where I had to change the oil every 3K miles in a very long time. It seems they're making em' now-a-days with longer intervals between changes.
    But with that, you still change every 3K to 5K? force of habit maybe? :)

    I'm not sure if I have the Touring or not. It does not say Touring, so I'm guessing it isn't, but it seems to have all the bells and whistles:
    Nav, DVD, auto windshield wipers, side window shades, swivel seats, turn signal warning, power doors, tailgate, leather, power pedals, heated seats, Infinity speakers, that's all I can think of for now. I'm not sure what extra stuff the Touring has.

    and yeah, we only put in 87 Grade and get it at the local Exxon or Costco where it's the cheapest in the area. That's the first I've seen 89 as well...Seems to run fine with the cheap stuff :)
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Per a number of reports from a different board, it is a fairly common occurrence for the OLM (Oil Life Monitor) to recommend an early oil change for the first service. Beyond that, things settle down and more closely align with the language in the manual.

    Best regards,
    Shipo
  • etpetp Posts: 153
    Old, Most cars companies are reducing their oil change intervals because of problems they want to avoid. Oil gets dirty no matter how good the oil is. As far as the first change at 2600 miles warning that is weird. I changed mine at 2400 because it was convenient to do it at that time and I had a big trip coming up and needed to change it early the first time anyway. Mine came with 6 free change coupons so it is only the synthetic oil I bought that cost me. Check, you may have a free first oil change. My daughter did and did not know it. Call the service manager and sales manager and they will hook you up man. That warning has be wondering though! What is the manufacture date on the sticker or door?
  • etpetp Posts: 153
    http://www.toolsource.com/dipstick-nag1-transmission-p-100198.html

    $59 was ok, just a little miffed that some new vehicles have no way of checking the fluid levels unless you pay the dealer.

    I plan on a dump and fill around 20K.
  • oldold Posts: 13
    Thanks for the info Shipo, I'll be sure to get this oil changed soon then.

    Also ETP, thanks for the suggestion on the first free oil change. I'll check with my dealer.

    I'll also check the manufacture date and let you know. thanks again!

    btw, my last mileage check was 17.6mpg, mixed driving. lots of AC on.
  • Feedback -
    2009 4.0L SXT

    Wife's van is getting around 19.0 mpg. (She's got a poor mileage driving style, prone to excessive idling, foot in the gas all the way to a red light, etc.) I also did not see the 89 octane recommendation, van seems to run well on 87. I will have to see if it has more power on the 89 octane fuel.

    If you have ideas to share...
    And at 1700 miles all the green VFD information in the instrument cluster (odometer, information center) has gone dark. Worked fine but then died overnight and would not work in the morning. Tachometer still seems to work, so perhaps I can drive it to the dealer.

    Here's to hoping it's not a :lemon:
  • I'm getting a dismal MPG - 19 MPG highway and 14 MPG city. I have the 25th Anniversary package + 4.0L engine. Tires are at 35 PSI. Any ideas what is happening?

    I got the oil change message at 2600 miles, got the free first oil change as well.

    Now I'm getting 'hood ajar' sometimes. Go figure.
  • etpetp Posts: 153
    It looks like they are doing these at 3k as my new sticker reflects that on the windshield. Also I changed from 5W30 full synthetic to 10W30 free crap bulk oil at the dealer and my HWY MPG went back up to 27.1 -28.2. 45-55 MPH is your best mileage BTW since I checked this today. My mixed city driving MPG went down with the bulk crap to 20-22 MPG was 24.5 MPG. So I will try another mixture with 0W40 and see what happens when my free coupons run out. It seems the synthetic 10W30 and 5W30 definitely improves my trip to work MPG but the 5W30 hoses my HWY MPG. Without more evidence it is hard to say for sure but it looks like the 4.0 needs a heavier oil at high speeds. When I change to 0W40 that may give me a clue. Maybe not!But the 44PSI in my tires does help my MPG in all driving conditions. When these tires wear out I will be switching to the Fuel miser tires / LRR that have a 51 PSI cold max pressure rating.. They will handle the high pressure better than my present tires.
    http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Spec.jsp?make=Goodyear&model=Assurance+Fuel+Max&ve- - hicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&partnum=265TR7AFM&tirePageLocQty=%26partnum%3D- - 265TR7AFM
    http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Energy+Saver- - +A%2FS
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  • etpetp Posts: 153
    Just completed two more trips and I got 14.2 in very heavy stop and go city driving and 16.8 in city driving. 27.2 to 28.1 on the HWY with two adults and baggage as well as 45-65MPH.
  • 455ho455ho Posts: 2
    Was reading the posts on the GC &TC minivans and I felt that I should comment. I just want to say thanks to all of the happy owners of these vehicles. I work for the company at the plant where they are built and I can tell you that our plant is always at the top of the corp's quality list. These things have been pumped out of here since '83 at a consistent rate and for good reason. We have done the best we possibly could through all of the cost cutting (since Daimler took over) and we still put out an outstanding product. Just want to say thanks for buying our product!
  • etpetp Posts: 153
    Best vehicle I have ever owned including my Prius. It is phenomenal how good the mileage is on this vehicle and the 4.0/6speeds performance. My daughter has one just like it and I would not hesitate to get another. If you have a family and need more than 4 seats this is it folks//period!
  • etpetp Posts: 153
    PS// back up to my normal mixed driving to work at 22-24 MPG and 27.5-28.5 HWY at 44 PSI.
  • How good is it to put (40-42 psi) into the tires for the 2009 GC. Kinda scares me for that higher mpg. Thanks
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