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2011 Hyundai Sonata

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  • bobadbobad Posts: 1,587
    Come on Hyundai, you can do this. Give it to us now!

    You know, Hyundai already has a 2.0T option for the Genesis Coupe. Wonder if the engines are identical? If Sonata sales start to lag, I wouldn't be surprised if the 2.0T got fast tracked.
  • hmma007hmma007 Posts: 19
    There will be some improvements associated with the turbo models that will make members of the Hyundai family very happy...... I wish I could share them with you... I'll just say the turbo Sonata is very, very, very fun to drive.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,682
    No, the engines aren't identical. The turbo in the Sonata will be GDI and will make a lot more power than the Genesis' 210 horses.

    I don't see Sonata sales lagging any time soon, but who knows...
  • larry134larry134 Posts: 40
    Good for you, white is a very nice color. My silver came with a grayish black pin stripe which looked good on the car and with no extra charge for the stripes and guards I keep both. By the way, what the hell does nitrogen in the tires benifit over good old american air.
  • larry134larry134 Posts: 40
    Update for MPG. Just took my car to Danbury Ct. about 50 miles, 37mpg to Danbury, 43 mpg back home. Just goes to show that trip to Danbury was mostly up hill while drive home was just the opposite. Set cruise at 63 MPH. Wonderful!!
  • jsmit86jsmit86 Posts: 116
    Hey hmma007 -

    I'm very pleased with my Limited, although the turbo would have been nice.
    Can you give us any insight to the reports of an improved horn?

    When I use it.... :blush: embarrassing!
    I know that there won't be a recall, but if Hyundai comes out with a new horn, I would gladly pay for the upgrade. It's really the only downer on an otherwise great experience.
  • shot_mosshot_mos Posts: 24
    Akio Toyoda admits "Hyundai is coming up" with the Sonata and questions his company's old model of building beige cars like the Camry.
  • audirs4audirs4 Posts: 13
    edited May 2010
    I'm not sure why anybody would complain about buying a car on a busy Saturday afternoon and it taking 4 hours.

    Customers are 1/2 the problem and they want to haggle just as much and try to get everything they can and squeeze people.

    And the dealer wants to sell as many add ons as possible. So everybody has their part in the car buying process.

    Go in their on Tueday at 10 am,. and you'll probably get in and out a lot quicker.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,952
    what the hell does nitrogen in the tires benifit over good old american air.

    I dont' know but I hear they have pretty decent air up in Canada too! ;)

    I have two vehicles with nitrogen in tires bought/installed at Costco. There was no extra charge but I'm sure it's built into the overall price as everything is. Didn't really have any feelings on it one way or the other at the time but I am now a convert. Tires on the SUV went on in Sept 08 and on my truck in Mar of 09 and I think I've added air to a couple of them once. I check occassionally as well as insist they are checked at oil changes. Pretty amazing as I used to have to add air regularly with the old tires. Maybe it's the tires, maybe it's the way they were mounted versus the original equipment but it's been a very nice experience not to have to add air hardly at all.

    From what I've read, the nitrogen molecules are bigger so they don't seep out as easy. Pure nitrogen is also supposed to make your tires run slightly cooler which helps in tire wear and doesn't attract or retain moisture as well as the oxygen does. Not selling nitrogen and don't think it's worth anywhere near what some crappy dealers want to charge but for a few bucks a tire I think it's well worth it.
  • rysterryster Posts: 476
    When I purchased my '11 Sonata, it was 6:30PM on a Thursday and it took 3.5 hours. I was the only new customer there at the time. There was one other couple who were picking up a car they bought the day before, and even after they left it was a good 2 hours before I was finally done and out the door.
  • bobadbobad Posts: 1,587
    From what I've read, the nitrogen molecules are bigger so they don't seep out as easy.

    That's the theory. However, air is already 80% nitrogen. When tires leak down, oxygen and trace gases with small molecule size leak out first. After you add air 2 or 3 times, you should have over 98% nitrogen and other trace gases with bigger molecules.
  • shot_mosshot_mos Posts: 24
    edited May 2010
    Can you give us any insight to the reports of an improved horn?

    I think they're retrofitting and using these guys:

    Hyundai's New Horn Supplier
  • denp3denp3 Posts: 99
    edited May 2010
    Took mine to Fairfield CT, about 55 miles away, 2 in the car, got 42 mpg, going back got 36 mpg, so going back was more hills. Not bad. See what happens next trip down.
  • jsmit86jsmit86 Posts: 116
    edited May 2010
    Funny... :P

    ......
    but not helpful ;)
  • tuckerdogtuckerdog Posts: 29
    edited May 2010
    Odd about the door. Do you think it may have had something to do with the recall that occurred right after the Sonata was introduced? I seem to recall that it was about a door latch issue.

    They told me this car was traded from another dealer in another state. The other dealer did whatever was supposed to be done to correct the early door latch problem, but apparently did it incorrectly. They fixed it. I just think it should have been caught before the car was turned over to me.

    I want to say, I may be leaving the impression I'm not happy with this dealership. On the contrary. When compared with all the others I shopped ( not just the other Hyundai dealers, but the Nissan, Honda, Toyota, Subaru, Mazda & Ford ), these guys were by far the best. Now they weren't perfect. But had I bought another car at another dealer, would things have been better??? We'll never know.

    BTW, that service department has a mechanic/technician named Jeff that knows more about Hyundai than most dealers would have if you combined all the mechs into one. He may not seem friendly all the time, but he is awsome to watch work, and is an artisan when it comes to turning wrenches. Most of the guys in the service department have been there for many, many years.

    I'll be asking for him when I take it back for the noise problem. Thanks

    Are you out here in RR? You know that is one of the bigger Hyundai dealers in the U.S.? Penske owns it.


    I'm in GT.i>
  • tuckerdogtuckerdog Posts: 29
    I'm not sure why anybody would complain about buying a car on a busy Saturday afternoon and it taking 4 hours.

    Customers are 1/2 the problem and they want to haggle just as much and try to get everything they can and squeeze people.

    And the dealer wants to sell as many add ons as possible. So everybody has their part in the car buying process.

    Go in their on Tueday at 10 am,. and you'll probably get in and out a lot quicker.


    The only real haggling that took place was over the price of my trade. That took all of 15-20 minutes. What took all afternoon was waiting for a turn with the finance guy. Well over two hours waiting just to get a chance to sign the paperwork. If Saturday is so busy, they need to get a 2nd finance guy on duty. Most of the rest of the time was them prepping the car.

    10 A.M. Tuesday, we're working.
  • mikemartinmikemartin Posts: 205
    I'm glad I have waited thus far in getting a new car.

    In fact, I may just buy a used one, if I do at all, and I'll probably pass on the Sonata.

    I have been watching the forums over at hyundaiforums for a while, and there are many, many complaints about rattles in dozens of places on the 2011 Sonata.

    Two things drive me crazy about cars and undermine my confidence in feeling that I am driving a piece of quality oriented engineering: suspension noises and rattles.

    The 2011 is far from unusual in terms of even new cars displaying rattles on less than perfect roads - I've seen Accord, Fusion, Altima and Toyota Avalon owners complain of rattles more and more lately.
  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,415
    Nitrogen in the tires is another dealer assist...they don't make much money on a new car sale, no matter what, so sale add-ons are important. Years ago, it was undercoating. Then it was rustproofing. Then it was "clearcoat (wax)." Or how about fake wood appliques for the interior? Whether or not these things had any utility, you were often charged through the nose (hundreds of dollars extra), and here and there, the dealer made a few bucks more.

    It is a fact that air is mostly nitrogen, and it is a fact that most tires that have working valves and a decent rim seal when installed do not need to have air added regularly. So if they throw "nitrogen" in the sale (like sometimes they did with "clearcoat,") take it. But don't pay more than a couple bucks extra for something you can get free or almost free if you check.
  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,415
    Most new cars, no matter the make, are pretty much rattle free. You will of course find the odd example of most makes that has a rattle. (You will also find that in some rare cases the rattle is caused by something the owner is carrying somewhere in the car.) Rattles are not a big issue in most new cars in recent years. If you have one, the dealer needs to isolate it and fix it.
  • xmechxmech Posts: 90
    OMG... the nitrogen monster is back! I'm 99% sure the only reason N2 started being used in tires was when they us split-rim wheels, that have a greased o-ring between, like on airplanes. They use much higher pressures and reach higher temperatures, and I guess there is enough oxygen in them to react with the grease and kablooey! It has happened.

    Can't speak for truck and other split-rim applications. I imagine it could be a safety issue there, too.

    Maybe if you REALLY race (Not think you're racing) the tiny difference in heat expansion ( if any) could make a tenth of a second difference in your lap time, maybe...if you are that good, and that consistant. But I don't think it'll make an appreciable difference when you're flooring it to beat the other guy with a fart muffler to the next red light.

    I would never waste my money on it. Sorry for the rant...happy roads! :shades:
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