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2011 Hyundai Sonata

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  • nyg4444nyg4444 Posts: 2
    haha sorry... i guess that is important... I live in California :shades:
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,897
    edited August 2010
    See, that's what I mean. Chicago sales tax is 9.75%. I live in a suburb which charges, I believe, 7.5%. Over $500 sales tax difference on a $25k car. I think LA has a somewhat similar situation where the sales tax is higher than surrounding suburbs/counties. That's why listing out the whole deal is a lot more helpful on a national forum.
  • njgreggnjgregg Posts: 39
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  • jliles528jliles528 Posts: 3
    edited August 2010
    Hello,

    I am in the market for a new car, since the lease on my 2008 Honda Accord EX-L (4 cyl, no nav) will be ending soon. I test drove the Sonata Limited and was very impressed. It's the top contender so far, but now I am trying to decide whether going for the navigation system is worth it or not. I can't seem to find a manual for the nav system anywhere, so I was hoping some of you who own the car equipped with it could answer some questions for me. Since I will be leasing again, I cannot make permanent modifications to the vehicle after the sale, so aftermarket options would be very limited.

    How sophisticated is the voice control? Are you easily understood? I am also very interested in what other aspects of the car can be controlled by voice. I've read some audio functions can be controlled by voice but I've seen no details of exactly what you can do. Can you tell the system to tune to a particular radio station, for example?

    Are the audio controls easy to use while driving?

    Does the routing make sense? My garmin sometimes sends me on bizarre routes that actually take longer than the route I'd normally use. Is the POI database large? Does it let you avoid certain types of routes like toll roads? How well does XM traffic work?

    Can a passenger use the system while the car is in motion?

    One of the things that appealed to me was the addition of the backup camera. How well does that work? Is it video only or (like on some cars) is there an audible signal as well as you get closer to an object?

    How well does bluetooth audio streaming work? Can you see the number of the person calling on the nav screen if your phone is paired?

    I would really appreciate any help that you can give me. While I normally wouldn't buy the nav system because I have a portable one, the extra features available might make it worth the cost for me.

    If anyone has a link to the nav/audio system manual in PDF form I would also really appreciate it. On the Hyundai site it seems you already have to own the car tpo be able to download it. Seems silly to me, because this info would answer a lot of questions for prospective buyers like me.

    J
  • johnwhojohnwho Posts: 19
    edited August 2010
    jlilies528 -


    How sophisticated is the voice control?

    About the same, for Nav, as my previous Garmin 850.

    Are you easily understood?

    About the same once you've "trained" it. Also varies depending on background noise level.

    I am also very interested in what other aspects of the car can be controlled by voice. I've read some audio functions can be controlled by voice but I've seen no details of exactly what you can do.

    Voice can control to some extent: FM/AM radio - XM radio - CD - MP3 - USB MP3 - USB Image - iPod - the Nav system - Phone (when paired)

    Can you tell the system to tune to a particular radio station, for example?

    Yes - both AM and FM (Ex. "FM frequency 99.1" should tune to FM 99.1)

    Are the audio controls easy to use while driving?

    Yes. Channel pre-sets up/down, vol up/down/, and mode change can be done on the steering wheel.


    Does the routing make sense?

    Mostly. I've had a Garmin and a Mio and all three have minor routing quirks. I'm not sure any Nav system is "quirk free".

    Is the POI database large?

    Even after I updated the maps on the Garmin it still wasn't 100% in my local area, and neither is the Sonata Nav. I'm not sure the number of POi's, but if it helps, the Nav System is by https://www.mapnsoft.com/default.asp

    Does it let you avoid certain types of routes like toll roads?

    Yes.

    How well does XM traffic work?

    If you are in an area that it covers, it will give an audible and video display of a traffic problem/delay. The XM site shows the coverage areas in the US.

    Can a passenger use the system while the car is in motion?

    Yes. So can the driver, so be careful.

    One of the things that appealed to me was the addition of the backup camera. How well does that work?

    Full color video with what they term a "Parking Guide system". Ask your dealer to demonstrate.

    Is it video only or (like on some cars) is there an audible signal as well as you get closer to an object?

    Video only

    How well does bluetooth audio streaming work?

    Some folks say it is great while others report it being problematic. Mostly the problem may be with the device your are "pairing". I've got a iPod Touch that connects very well with the Hyundai cable and have no reason to use the Bluetooth aspect so can't help you with this.

    Can you see the number of the person calling on the nav screen if your phone is paired?

    The incoming call will cause the "phone" screen to be displayed, if I recall. Don't recall it showing up on the Nav screen. You can "answer" the call by pressing the "call" button on the steering wheel. You can then go back to the Nav screen if you need it and continue with your phone call.


    I would really appreciate any help that you can give me. While I normally wouldn't buy the nav system because I have a portable one, the extra features available might make it worth the cost for me.

    If anyone has a link to the nav/audio system manual in PDF form I would also really appreciate it. On the Hyundai site it seems you already have to own the car tpo be able to download it. Seems silly to me, because this info would answer a lot of questions for prospective buyers like me.


    I would recommend you go to your Sonata dealer and ask to look at one of the Nav System Manuals. That should answer many of your questions. I haven't found it in pdf either.

    Hope that helps.
  • I heard a blurb on TV this afternoon saying that the federal government (I don't know if it's the DOT, NHTSA or some other department) is going to "open a case" on steering problems on the 2011 Sonata. They said that this is NOT a recall (at least not yet) but there has been a sufficient number of complaints brought up that they feel it warrants further investigation. I can't remember all the numbers for sure, but I think they said it only affects cars built before March of 2010. I think they even mentioned the number of vehicles affected, but I didn't catch that number. It will be interesting to see how this story develops.
  • ral2167ral2167 Posts: 641
    Not sure which is worse... a camry that goes 50 mph over the speed limit on its own, but that you can steer, OR a sonata that stays at the speed limit but steers on its own. Accord owners are chuckling, either way, eh? I still maintain you all owe mommyt one big apology.
  • And I can't find a steering problem! I consistently get 5.6L/100 km on the highway which is better than printed. Love the car.

    I do have a slight concern. With the manual, I got standard steel tire rims and hubcaps. When the snow falls, I intended to buy snow tires and put them on the steel rims and purchase alloy rims for the sumer tires. The problem is I can't find 16"/6.5 alloy rims available anywhere including the Hyundai dealer! I would prefer an after-market rims but that size is rare or never made.
  • schdyschdy Posts: 233
    It appears that apologies are in order for Mommyt. According to my Dealer a specific number of GLS models manufactured in a specific month may have either a manufacturing or componet defect causing the PS problems seen and reported here and in other Forums. I was advised to continue driving with no fear of having this problem and Hyundai will be quick in resolving this issue.
    According to the article the problem arises around 650 miles of driving or less.
    Just sit tight!
  • I still maintain you all owe mommyt one big apology.

    Apparently you missed the following text in the article:

    "There have been no injuries or accidents reported to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration or Hyundai regarding the steering issue, government and company officials said."

    If that's true, then it would add additional credence that mommyt's story continues to be difficult to believe. Additionally, mommyt indicated that the wheel jerked to the side and could not be moved back. Not exactly the same as a decoupling issue, where the wheel would presumably move freely but have no effect on the actual steering.
  • I thought that we would hear by now when the turbo's are coming out....I was hoping to see it on the Sonatas and on the Tucsons...
  • LASHAWNLASHAWN Posts: 303
    From what I've read a total of 16,300 Sonatas are being evaluated, but there have only been 2 incidents(vehicles have been repaired) reported. Hardly worth mentioning in my book, but maybe their just being cautious.
  • I am currently driving the Passat and one feature that I really like on it is the ability to tighten up the steering when the car is traveling at high speeds that makes you feel like you;re in a sort of a capsule. I believe the Accords have the same feature, but I did not feel the 2011 Sonata did when I test drove it. Did I just miss it?

    Thanks..
  • This 'problem' Has NOTHING To Do With The 'mommyt' event.
  • mazda6dudemazda6dude Posts: 283
    edited September 2010
    I bought a new 2011 Hyundai GLS automatic. I have close to 600 miles on it. From the day I bought it while driving back from the dealership, there was a pull to the right, so I got the front tires cross rotated. There still seemed to be a pull a little to the left and right. So then I got the front tires rotated to the back and the back tires to the front. The car still has no control at highway speeds. The steering has no feel or control.

    It feels like as if the car is all over the place. The car cannot go straight at all. What could be the problem? Any feedback would be highly appreciated. I am constantly adjusting the steering so that the car goes straight. The steering wanders. Is this normal?
  • chuck1chuck1 Posts: 1,405
    They go over 50 mph for all drivers over 60 who have memory lapses of how to out a car in neutral.

    FYI........
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,897
    And why should they have to put them in neutral in the first place?
  • jlflemmonsjlflemmons Posts: 2,240
    Have you let the dealer check the alignment, or the manufacture date to see if it falls into the period of vehicles that are being inspected for loose couplings in the steering shaft?

    Regarding those steering shaft couplings. Everybody uses them, all brands. From reading the information released by various sources, and the tightly identified span of vehicles affected, I would wager that on some day, on a specific line at the factory, there was an assembly torque wrench that was malfunctioning. These couplings have very specific torque settings, and while they do have some overhead for excess tightening, you can sure strip one out. And if they are not fully torqued down, they can allow play between the two shafts. Been there, done that.

    On the dark side, you don't want one of those things to come off. They hold the various shafts between the steering wheel and rack together. On the bright side, they really have to be screwed up (broken) for that to happen. More common is that they are loose and allow excess play in the coupling. Either way, if Hyundai can identify what time period and "lot" of vehicles went down that line, they are being very responsible and correct in checking those cars. Easy to correct, and not expensive at all.
  • mazda6dudemazda6dude Posts: 283
    edited September 2010
    After getting my front tires crossed and then moving the front tires to the back and back tires to the front, I took a highway test drive. The car still pulls to the right. I have a feeling, its either the alignment or mechanical issue. I will take into the dealer soon and see what happens. Its frustrating, but lets see what happens. Could be a case of torque steer?
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