Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!





2011 Hyundai Sonata

13940424445174

Comments

  • My dealer found a black GLS with a gray interior and option 2 (power seat, auto headlights).

    So I'm going to head over there tomorrow and pick it up!

    While my first choice was harbor gray, black is pretty nice to my eyes.
  • napsfannapsfan Posts: 23
    edited March 2010
    This is just a small thing, but nicely done nonetheless. I notice that when I play my music over Bluetooth from my Blackberry Storm (which really works great, by the way), that I have to crank up the volume quite a bit higher than with the FM stations. But then it does indeed sound crisp and clear and great. But I was worried that I'd be blasted as I changed back to FM.

    Nope. The audio system remembers your "previous volume setteing" for the AUX and the RADIO settings SEPARATELY, so it automatically sets the volume back lower for FM. So it plays both the FM stations and the MP3 music at the right volumes, respectively, and it is "safe" to switch between modes.

    A detail, but a nice little piece of engineering common sense. I imagine other cars do the same thing these days, but none of the cars I had ever owned, that's for sure.
  • syitalian25syitalian25 Posts: 303
    From the Edmunds review :

    "But with the new six-speed automatic transmission (which has no such throttle-dampening), we're betting the Sonata would close in on the Volkswagen CC as well as the VW Passat, which are good for acceleration to 60 mph from a standstill in 7.3 seconds and a quarter-mile of 15.2 seconds at 92.0 mph."

    Also see my video in the SE - about 7.2 seconds - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR9C0RXF9dY

    "We had no such qualms about the 2011 Hyundai Sonata SE we've previously driven, so it may be that the higher-rate springs and extra rebound damping on that model offer a better overall compromise between ride and handling. The SE, you'll recall, also has a different wheel/tire package, with P225/45R18 tires on lightweight cast-aluminum wheels."
  • meikmeik Posts: 63
    I tested it between XM Radio an HD Radio... It didn't work in that way on mine. Maybe because both were "Radio" stations? I will test it between Radio and iPod tomorrow. Thanks for the info.
  • pochirajupochiraju Posts: 19
    hello all,

    i am planning to buy a new car and debating if i shud buy 2011 sonata. my main issue is the less resale value of the car. please can you advice more about the resale value of sonata.

    thank u
    sandy
  • please can you advice more about the resale value of sonata.

    I bet the 2011 Sonata will have a higher resale value than previous versions.
  • dodgeman07dodgeman07 Posts: 574
    Don't worry about mikemartin. He's a Hyundai hater that has been bad mouthing the 2011 Sonata all along.

    Edmunds reviews are typically a joke and this one is no exception. They test a car that's widely available for $19K and totally spanks the competition in every respect, they have to find something to complain about.

    Like has been mentioned a dozen times already, Edmunds should have tested an AT version with Option Group 2 (16" alloy wheels, power driver seat, driver's lumbar support, auto headlight control, chrome door handles and leatherette inserts) that STICKERS for $21.6K and can be had for $20K now!

    It's really no contest. The Sonata wins hands down.
  • mikemartinmikemartin Posts: 205
    edited March 2010
    Edmunds reviews are typically a joke and this one is no exception. They test a car that's widely available for $19K and totally spanks the competition in every respect, they have to find something to complain about.

    That's just hilarious. Edmunds was objective in its review and now "Edmunds reviews are typically a joke and this one is no exception."

    What other Edmunds reviews are "jokes" in your esteemed opinion?

    Edmunds reviews are actually pretty comprehensive and objective, in reality, and they found MANY "SOMETHINGS" to complain about with the 2011 Sonata (read the review).

    Don't be an Edmunds hater who badmouths Edmunds because you don't share their opinion.

    Thanks.

    Sandy - My best advice to you is that if you don't need a car immediately, wait for the inevitable rebates and incentives that will flow once the 2011 Sonata is in full production cycle, and DO NOT let many of the car salesmen who seem to hang out in these forums allow you to think that prices have anywhere to go but down.

    This is a new model, with a lot of buzz, and the hype never lasts in these situations. History has proven this in every such situation.

    1.5k off of MSRP is not that much relatively speaking, even at the 20k price level. Many cars sell for 2.5k to 4k off sticker in the 20k to 25k price range.

    No need to rush.
  • pochirajupochiraju Posts: 19
    hello all,

    i am planning to buy a new car and debating if i shud buy 2011 sonata. my main issue is the less resale value of the car. please can you advice more about the resale value of sonata.

    thank u
    sandy
  • redhat381redhat381 Posts: 24
    The best estimate for resale value is published by ALG (Auto Lease Guide, I think), and they estimate that the 2011 Sonata will have 54% residual value after 3 years. That's excellent. I think only the Accord's higher at 55 or 56% if I remember correctly. You might want to trace some of the discussions that took place earlier, starting from post #322.
  • dodgeman07dodgeman07 Posts: 574
    What other Edmunds reviews are "jokes" in your esteemed opinion?

    Most of them. Wait until the real reviews come out and find out for yourself. Edmunds picked a model very few people will buy and still found little to dislike. They were probably upset Hyundai wouldn't give them a car so the bought the cheapest one they could find. :P

    You get on here and run your mouth about how bad Hyundai products are all day long. Your comments are worthless so why don't hang up keyboard and/or get a clue. It's clear you hate Hyundai. That has been demonstrated by every post you've made in this thread. :mad:
  • dodgeman07dodgeman07 Posts: 574
    Sandy: If you like the Sonata then negotiate the best deal you can get when you're ready to buy. You should be able to get close to 10% off MRSP.

    And whatever you do don't listen to this mikemartin clown. His comments and advice are worthless. If you want to wait and buy a 2011 next year, then you could certainly get another $500-$1,000 off today's prices but by then the car will be a year old and worth much less anyway.
  • mikemartinmikemartin Posts: 205
    edited March 2010
    A select few of you who are apparently upset about the Edmunds review that found a lot to fault with the 2011 Sonata should not blame me.

    In fact, you shouldn't blame Edmunds, either.

    You should politely state your objections and disagreements with Edmunds review like real men, and go about your business, rather than whine and cry.

    Sandy, the 2011 later this year, and the 2012 Sonata will almost certainly have much higher cash on the hood for consumers.

    Don't listen to salesmen trying to rush you. They don't have your interests in mind.

    You should also test drive the 2010 Sonata, as it can be had for as little as $14,700 new, and some reviews state a preference for the 2010 model year.
  • syitalian25syitalian25 Posts: 303
    edited March 2010
    The way I read the review is that they basically didn't like the manual transmission (only in 2% of the cars) and some minor complaints about the electronic steering. Why don't you ready the driving impressions from the Edmunds page (look for the link to your right)

    Driving Impressions

    With its well-balanced chassis, the 2011 Hyundai Sonata provides both a supple ride and sure-footed handling. In this sense, it rivals similarly sporty family sedans such as the Altima and Mazda 6. The steering is well-weighted at normal driving speeds and lightens up considerably at low speeds (to ease parking maneuvers) -- perhaps too much for enthusiasts, though this is a minor gripe at best.

    With its spirited performance, the 2.4-liter four should be enough to make most people forget that there's not a V6 option; it pulls willingly and smoothly right up to the tach's redline. Gearshifts from the automatic are seamless and it steps down when needed for quick passing or merging. Shift quality with the manual transmission, however, is disappointing due to some jerkiness during upshifts.

    Interior Design and Special Features

    Fit and finish of the cabin is very good, even though the Sonata uses more hard plastic trim on the doors than most rivals. The controls operate with a feel and precision befitting a more expensive car. The Limited trim level is particularly upscale, with its wood grain accents and padded door panels.

    Now classified as a large car, the Sonata boasts enough room to allow four adults to stretch out and enjoy the ride. As with most cars, five will fit, though the rear middle passenger won't be as comfortable as the others. The trunk's capacity is at the top of the class, with 16.4 cubic feet of capacity.
  • shabadoo25shabadoo25 Posts: 216
    Someone asked a few pages back about the voice command and changing radio stations. According to the manual, you can say one of these 2 things:

    "FM Frequency 96.5" OR

    "FM 1 Preset 3"

    I'll be posting more about the car later.
  • bobadbobad Posts: 1,587
    Now classified as a large car, the Sonata boasts enough room to allow four adults to stretch out

    "Now" classified as a large car? The Sonata has been classified as a large car since 2005. :blush:

    Makes you wonder what else Edmunds reviewers don't know.
  • You should also test drive the 2010 Sonata, as it can be had for as little as $14,700 new, and some reviews state a preference for the 2010 model year.

    I test drove the two models, the 2010 first and the 2011 directly thereafter. There's no comparison - the 2011 is better by far. Much better power, much better handling, much more comfortable front seat, much nicer interior. The only area where I found a similarity is in quietness of ride - both were very quiet.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,769
    Also, although there are only 12 owner reviews to date, I don't recall seeing a 9.9 rating on ANY car here at Edmunds before. Of course, it's early... but most buyers find something to which to apply "buyer's remorse." ;)
  • fushigifushigi Posts: 1,248
    Sandy, while resale value of the new design should be higher than the last generation, you should determine how much the resale value factor actually matters in your situation.

    For instance, if you tend to replace your cars every 3-5 years, resale should factor into the equation. But if you tend to hold onto your vehicles for longer, like 8+ years, it's much less of an issue and can actually work against you. My example: I bought a sedan in 1999. The comparably equipped Camry was $3,000 more. 10 years & 150K miles later and my sedan has depreciated a fair bit but the Camry had as well and the trade-in price difference was only $2000. So while the Camry had a higher resale value, it would actually have cost $1000 more to own over the life of my ownership.

    The point is, resale value as a percentage of new car cost doesn't matter. What matters is how much the vehicle depreciates in dollars (and that depreciation should use the actual sale price - not MSRP - as a starting point). And even then, that's not the whole story. There will be differences in how much the cars cost to insure, how much maintenance they take, whether repairs are covered under warranty (i.e. warranty length), and so on. Use a tool like Edmund's TCO as a baseline and create a spreadsheet to tabulate the costs of the cars you're considering.

    Finances aside, don't forget to find a car you can live with. Comfortable seats, adequate storage space for people and your stuff, the features you need/want (bluetooth, decent stereo, moon roof, leather, room for child seats, etc.), the fuel economy & safety ratings you desire, and so on. You'll never be happy with your ownership experience if you buy something that isn't quite what you need.

    IMO, you should put the Sonata on your list of vehicles to look at. Compare it to the others in it's class; check out the Midsize Sedans 2.0 thread here in the forums and look at the messages for the other models you're considering. There are lots of good cars to choose from.
  • lancep97lancep97 Posts: 36
    Hyundai did provide Edmunds with the test car. Very last sentence of the review states:

    The manufacturer provided Edmunds this vehicle for the purposes of evaluation.

    One review from a guy driving the car for a short period of time doesn't seem to be the best advice to use when determining if the car is right for you. I much rather hearing real owners reviews in this forum who drive their cars everyday.
  • So you picked up your car? How do you like it?
  • osaka75osaka75 Posts: 88
    Perfect post, Fushigi.
  • chronochrono Posts: 149
    From edmunds review ->

    It's more fun to drive than the ubiquitous Accord and Camry ..

    With its well-balanced chassis, the 2011 Hyundai Sonata provides both a supple ride and sure-footed handling. In this sense, it rivals similarly sporty family sedans such as the Altima and Mazda 6. The steering is well-weighted at normal driving speeds and lightens up considerably at low speeds (to ease parking maneuvers) -- perhaps too much for enthusiasts, though this is a minor gripe at best.

    Sounds like the previous road tester was just being picky .. maybe he was bummed he had to review the GLS instead of the SE.
  • dash5dash5 Posts: 418
    Here's edmunds review summary:

    http://www.edmunds.com/hyundai/sonata/2011/review.html

    What Edmunds.com says

    The previous Sonata was a solid contender, but for 2011, the Hyundai Sonata vaults itself to the top of the class.
  • shabadoo25shabadoo25 Posts: 216
    I have to say so far, I love it. It was so worth waiting for the black/black combo.

    I will post a comprehensive review after I have experienced everything with the car. Voice command is my lunchtime project. :)
  • meikmeik Posts: 63
    shabadoo25, Can you test what napsfan said in his/her post #1244?

    I tried it but it didn't work. I tested between XM and Radio, Radio and iPod, iPod and XM. Mine didn't remember volume setting on each Mode. I have Limited w/o Nav though.

    enjoy your new ride.
  • shabadoo25shabadoo25 Posts: 216
    Will do. I can verify it works between phone and XM, but not on anything else.
  • napsfannapsfan Posts: 23
    Can you test what napsfan said in his/her post #1244?

    I tried it but it didn't work. I tested between XM and Radio, Radio and iPod, iPod and XM. Mine didn't remember volume setting on each Mode. I have Limited w/o Nav though.


    Hi again. I can try it again tonight also. Note that I just tried this between AUX (which was Bluetooth connected to my Blackberry) and FM. I had not tried to do a more thorough test (this was just more of an observation of that one specific example, which was very evident going back and forth and looking at the displayed volume level on the scrren). But I will also confirm tonight, to make sure I was not hallucinating from the new car fumes ;)

    (Note: Mine is a Limited with no nav)
  • shuale_ejsshuale_ejs Posts: 79
    edited March 2010
    Does anyone know the march lease rates for the 2011 Limited
    (i.e. Residual Value and Money Factor)?
Sign In or Register to comment.