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2011 Hyundai Sonata

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  • midas69midas69 Posts: 118
    Just hit the gas and go. That's why we have insurance!!!

    Seriously, it's no worse than other cars on the road, for me. For me is the key. The Sonata has a lot more head room than most cars. So, for me, I usually have to scrunch down to see out the side windows on any car I have. It's no worse in the Sonata.

    But when you talk about the blind spot, you're typically talking about the area around the C pillar. It's not that bad. Again, no worse than almost any other car out there in it's class. I felt it was much worse in the Fusion I test drove.
  • shabadoo25shabadoo25 Posts: 216
    I may be alone on this, but I don't like camel-type interiors at all. However, I like it even less on the darker cars.

    You have the dark exterior and the dark dashboard and side panels and then the camel cloth starts. It looks incongruous and out of place.

    If you decide to get a GLS, pay the $900 and get aftermarket leather from the dealer.
  • sanfromvasanfromva Posts: 11
    You're right about people being elated to get 2K less than MSRP. Some reviews that came when I googled their name mention "their website prices are bogus and include rebates you won't qualify for". I haven't tried them yet so can't form an opinion yet.
  • chronochrono Posts: 149
    Another good review, I'm not sure we need to keep a tally because looks like 99% of the reviews are positive.

    http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/reviews/healey/2010-03-11-test-drive-review-- hyundai-sonata_N.htm

    So were other key elements:

    •Steering was firm, quite so in the SE, and kept the car pointed straight until the driver commanded otherwise. So simple; so rare among cars.

    If you like over-boosted power steering, the front-wheels-on-ice steering feel, Sonata's not your car.

    •Suspension also was generally firm, again very much so in the SE, and cornering response was commensurately satisfying. No sweat handling tight, twisting freeway off-ramps approached at high speed.

    •Brakes were delightful. Push 'em a little, slow a lot. Nothing spongy, vague or tentative. Very nice.

    Classy interior and smooth-operating, firm-feeling controls were more like you'd expect in a near-luxury car. Even just operating the turn signal stalk or pulling the shift lever into gear could generate a tiny shiver of delight.


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    The 2011 Sonata accomplishes a mighty pair of feats.

    It gives buyers a huge amount of refinement, driving enjoyment, comfort and style for not a lot of money.

    And it forces other automakers to confront, and match or trump, Sonata's package of attributes, which may be the new benchmark for midsize (roughly) family sedans: four-cylinder engine with direct injection and at least 200 hp, 35 mpg or more rating on the highway, six-speed automatic (instead of the five-speeds most still use) and a $20,000 starting price.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,727
    I like camel and especially camel/black if it's done right. It can look cheap if not done right. I got a ride home from the dealership today in a silver blue 2010 Sonata with the camel cloth interior and I thought it looked pretty sharp, with the contrasting black dash and other black trim. And it makes the cabin more airy feeling than a dark interior.

    Another possible problem with camel cloth is it will show dirt (but not lint) more than black or grey. So I wouldn't have camel if I had small kids etc. I don't have that problem anymore.

    I actually prefer cloth over leather. It's more grippy and feels warmer in the winter (bun warmers help of course) and cooler in the summer (and the Sonata doesn't have seat coolers). Plus I really don't need/want all the bells and whistles (and extra cost) of the Limited; the GLS is plenty of car for me. With aftermarket leather, I'd worry they'd mess up the OCS and side airbag system. Also I don't think $900 aftermarket leather would include bun warmers, would it? That is a necessity for cold climates as in MN.
  • napsfannapsfan Posts: 23
    I've only had the 2011 for a week, but like you, I am still getting adjusted to the visibility which is not as good in the Sonata compared to my previous vehicle (a minivan, not a fair comparison :) Plus I am newer to bifocals, which doesn't help. I believe it is "not too bad" and that I will learn how to adjust. But like you, I do notice that the narrower roof lines does impact visibility a bit and will take some getting used to.
  • shabadoo25shabadoo25 Posts: 216
    As I always say, to each his own. To me, light colored interiors are for girls or rental cars. With the LTD, I don't have to worry about the seat being too cold--it comes with the heated seats.

    The camel interior, the wine interior, cloth seats and the red/silver blue pearl exteriors aren't for me, but I'm glad they have something for every aesthetic sensibility.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 3,006
    I'm not questioning the theory or the physics. I'm asking if anyone knows if there is a big difference between the ride and handling characteristics of the GLS vs. the Ltd. To my knowledge, there were no reported major differences between the previous version GLS/Ltd.

    I totally agree that it would be nice(and logical) if the more expensive Ltd had better ride/handling. I'm just wondering if anyone can actually notice it.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,727
    There WAS a significant difference in ride on the 2006-10 GLS vs. Limited if only because of the 16" vs. 17" wheels on the cars. I noticed a slightly firmer ride and more tire noise with the LX/Limited vs. the GLS with taller sidewalls. I've driven over a dozen of those cars over the years in GLS and LX/Limited trims. It's possible (likely?) there will be a similar difference with the 2011, but I haven't driven it yet.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 3,006
    That's what I'm trying to determine from owners of the 2011. Is there a significant difference or a very minor difference? Obviously, if I were to be ready to buy something right now I would be test driving the heck out of both but for research I'm looking to owners.

    I guess it can be different for different people. When I test drove the GLS and Ltd back in 2007, I didn't notice a major difference in the handling between the two. The SE was noticeably different and rightfully so. But that was on a couple of test drives and a salesperson gabbing so loud pointing out interior features it was hard to concentrate on the drive.
  • shabadoo25shabadoo25 Posts: 216
    I don't know how many people are going to be able to help you with your request, as it is unlikely that someone test drove both of those models. Cost conscious shoppers most likely test drove only a GLS and feature-oriented shoppers most likely test drove only the Limited.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 3,006
    There was just someone a few posts back that was crossshopping the two of them. She was going to maybe buy the GLS or lease the LTD? I test drove both back in 2007 so I know there are a few people. But you're right, may not be able to get a definitive answer here.
  • When I'm truly in the market for a new car (sometime this year, I think, but I like to drive cars more or less 'til they die), I'm 99% set on a 2011 Sonata Limited. I'm looking forward to seeing the Venetian Red / Camel leather in person :-D

    As for cloth v. leather, normally I would agree with you that cloth grips better, but having sat in a Limited at the Chicago Auto Show I was very surprised at how grippy the leather was. Maybe that'll wear down and get smoother over time, but I definitely did not feel like I could just slide across the seat (like, for example, in my dad's 2004 A6). I look forward to taking a test drive to see how it holds one's body in place in turns, but I would guess the answer is "quite well."

    Having also sat in an SE with gray interior and a GLS with the camel cloth interior, I definitely agree with others who have said the camel cloth feels much more upscale than the gray cross-woven cloth. It's firmer, smoother and doesn't feel like it'll lose its elasticity over time. Even though I'm set on the Limited (seat warmers are a very high priority for me as well, not to mention the better audio system), I agree that the GLS feels like a LOT of car for the money even in its most basic trim! :-D

    Now I just have to wait for my '96 Bonneville with 146k miles to need a major repair.........
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,727
    edited March 2010
    You initially said "ride and handling". I was talking about the ride. The two trims have the same suspension, both for 2006-10 and 2011 (same between GLS and Limited I mean, not same between generations), so handling shouldn't differ much except as determined by tires.

    As for a definitive answer, that will depend on YOUR preferences. And the only way to tell for sure is to drive the cars, when you're ready.
  • mprice78mprice78 Posts: 2
    My wife and I test drove both the GLS and the Limited, and ended buying a Limited. Neither of us noticed a difference in handling between the two. We were originally interested in the GLS with a popular equipment package, but the dearship didn't have any GLS's on the lot when we first went to look. When we came back a few days later, after looking at various other cars, they had a GLS in stock. The handling and suspension felt the same, but since we didn't drive them on the same day it would be really hard to recognize a minor difference from the wheels.

    We decided we liked the features on the limited enough to pay a little more than we originally wanted, plus I was able to get them down to $24k. I found another dealer in PA with a price of 23.3, but our dealer is in town and offers free oil changes and tire rotations for life.
  • ctandcctandc Posts: 2
    Purchased a 2011 Sonata SE two weeks ago for my wife's primary car. I've never seen her so excited about a new car, and she's had several. She absolutely loves it. I can tell you this:

    We test drove the GLS. It's got a nice ride, but I don't like the vague input / feedback from the steering in the GLS. 99% of all people would never notice it, but as I've owned and built a lot of good handling cars over the years, I did. We also drove the limited. the only difference in ride quality / handling in the Limited vs the GLS that I noticed was the Limited had a bit harsher ride than the GLS..due to the wheel size difference I'm sure.

    The SE, which we waited on to come in?

    GREAT feedback and handling. Much tighter feedback and response and doesn't totally sacrifice ride quality. Great car. Hyundai got this one right.

    Build quality, looks, power, economy and most important to us...interior and trunk room.

    Can't beat it with a stick considering we paid a tick under $22K for a SE with floor mats, wheel locks and Ipod cable.
  • phill1phill1 Posts: 315
    You not alone and I agree whole heartedly! I usually prefer "lighter colored vehicle interiors be it tan-beige or grey over black-charcoal. In the 2011 Hyundai GLS however, to me the Tan interiors looks like cheap after-market seat covers that will (snag & pill up) while the darker charcoal interiors looks more expensive and durable. You would think in the same GLS model line, the material look and feel would be identical except for the color, not so here. I don`t want Leather, too hot for SO FL. The color combinations of exterior vs interior in the GLS series eliminates unfortunately, the 2011 Sonata for consideration. Ordered a 2011 Ford Fiesta SE Hatchback with candy red metallic paint with light stone & charcoal grey interior.
  • phill1phill1 Posts: 315
    Well, if lighter color vehicle interiors are intended for rental fleets or women, guess its my (feminine side) showing. I for one am tired of drab black car interiors matched with almost every exterior color. Not much imagination color coordinating with being "always safe in black". I prefer matching exteriors colors with a similar shade of the same color for interior. Since that has become a very rare possibility, I`ll opt for a lighter neutral color like tan or beige or a lighter gray to compliment the exterior color. Dark charcoal or black is too drab plus shows lint,dust, dog hair, etc. The tan fabric in the 2011 Hyundai Sonata GLS IMO is ugly and cheap looking compared to the charcoal color fabric used in the same series! That was a deal breaker for me!
  • m6userm6user Posts: 3,006
    In addition, Hyundai will also launch a turbocharged Sonata sedan, equipped with company’s 2.0L four-cylinder turbo engine with horsepower rating ranging between 235-240 horsepower. Make sure you visit our blog on April the 2nd to find more information on the soon-to-be-released new Sonata models.

    The above was copied from Hyundaiblog.com and is the first time I've seen a fairly reliable source state that the HP rating on the 2.0 Turbo to be in the Sonata is going to be around 235-240. Most estimates I've seen have been between 250-260. Even Hyundai execs in their press release video said something like 250+. Don't know what to make of it. I'ts possible they may be tuning this engine to return the hp of the previous V6 matched with a little less body weight to come up with even better MPG ratings than the DI I4. This would have the plus of having a lot more hp, much more torque and even higher MPG ratings! With a combination like that I don't imagine it would be hard to get people to pay a lot more for it. Just a thought.
  • shabadoo25shabadoo25 Posts: 216
    Since I have 3 dogs, I'll tell you right now that dog hair shows with any interior.

    I just came from a vehicle with grey cloth, and it looks ok. However, the black accents of the 2011 just look better with the black leather IMHO.

    As for your choices, more power to you. I know I would find myself personally shocked if I ever saw a candy apple red vehicle with anything other than a female driving it.
  • bobadbobad Posts: 1,587
    If you like over-boosted power steering, the front-wheels-on-ice steering feel, Sonata's not your car.

    I've heard that Sonata's power steering boost is adjustable with the right scan tool.
  • abigmuttabigmutt Posts: 37
    edited March 2010
    As for your choices, more power to you. I know I would find myself personally shocked if I ever saw a candy apple red vehicle with anything other than a female driving it.
    ...

    "Shocked", eh? my first thought was "what kind of life does this person lead?" when they are so easily shocked.
    I am about to buy a red 2011 Sonata; at first I had other color choice but after traveling around town to the 4 dealerships so I could test and SEE all the colors/models, I changed my order to a red one. Based on the other available color choices, mostly. despite the nice new design, all the other colors still made it look like "an old man's car". But when i saw the red one, it changed my whole impression of the car. That color combined with the new styling took it right out of the "geezer" category for me. Maybe that's why the ads & commercials that emphasize the radical, sporty & youthful nature of the Sonata many times use the red colored model.
    I haven't bought a new, red car for many years but after many dark-colored luxury cars and numerous light-colored mini-vans & family sedans, the mischievous, risk-taking side of me is back, I guess.
    (or as shabadoo25 might opine) my feminine side is showing through.
    ...
    Thank goodness we all have different tastes, or else we'd all be waiting in line for that black-on-black or grey-on-silver color combo, eh? I could never live with black leather interiors, first because they seem conservative and in the summer, hot. Also because I'd always feel like I'm a chauffeur on my way to the airport to pick up a client. Or, if it also had black exterior, I'd feel like I'm part of a funeral procession. Other color combinations, especially with cloth seats, I feel like I'm driving a company car. But red ..... nothing about it says conservative, company-car, chauffeur or funeral. It just says "fun" to me, whether a woman or a man is driving it.
  • shabadoo25shabadoo25 Posts: 216
    Well, the Venetian Red in the Sonata isn't "candy apple." It's more muted than that. It sounds like you have owned a variety of other colors, and want a change of pace. As I always say, different strokes for different folks.

    Now, as for any man that would buy the Silver Pearl (baby blue), that's a whole 'nother story! :P
  • phill1phill1 Posts: 315
    Well, since we are both Dog Lovers, I won`t be picking a fight with you...lol! I have two Golden Retrievers myself. As for my color choice, Candy Red Metallic, have you seen a new 2010 Ford Taurus in that color? Its not only an extra $180 premium paint color upgrade, but looks very sharp and expensive. Girly color? Anything other then a drab color maroon is feminine? Its not shocking Pink! I`ve seen a lot of hot fire red Ferrari sports cars that don`t look too sissy! Maybe its not too late to cancel the order and rethink my choices. Perhaps silver grey or battleship grey with black interior might boost my testosterone levels a bit.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 3,006
    You'll be a real man then. ;)

    I'll have to tell my dad who was wounded in the south pacific during WWII that he is a girly man for having a red car.
  • shabadoo25shabadoo25 Posts: 216
    As I've always said, to each his own. One man's picasso is another's pile of junk.

    Heck, I don't even understand why they make this car in baby blue outside of North Carolina, but I'm sure they'll sell plenty of them.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,727
    edited March 2010
    Medium red / cranberry / candy apple red is one of my favorite colors. I love it on the new Sonata. (Oh, look to the right--there it is!) I don't know I'd like it as much on the more boring 2006-10 Sonata though. And I would even get the tan interior in that red Sonata. Guess I won't qualify for "macho man of the year." Not that I care. I am pretty comfortable with my state of "maleness" to drive pretty much anything. I even owned a silver blue Jetta for awhile. It was used and was the right price. My oldest son made a remark about it being a "girlie" car. I wrote him out of my will.

    (OK, I didn't do that... just told him I would.)
  • Actually I think all the colors are pretty nice. :)

    When I first saw pictures of the 2011 Sonata online I thought the indigo blue and red looked fabulous, especially the blue. But the closer I got to making the purchase the more I wondered whether the blue was "too much" since I'm going to be 60 in a few months.

    The next time I was at the dealer, the salesman asked me if I was sure I wanted the indigo blue. I then realized that I wanted something a little less flashy, and indicated that Harbor Gray was my number one preference, with black and Pacific Blue if gray wasn't available. Two days later he told me he had a black with the options I wanted. I could have waited for the Harbor Gray but decided that black was pretty cool and went with it.

    I have no regrets - I love the black color. I feel like I'm driving a Mercedes Benz.
  • swingmanswingman Posts: 54
    non-red 2011 sonatas look like old geezer cars? How do you figure? Just trying to fire a shot back at the guy calling the red one a girlie car?

    Not sure what color has to do with it. I would think style would have more influence on whether or not a car qualifies as a geezer car.

    Everyone has their own tastes in car color but unless it's pink or purple, I wouldn't call any color girlie. On the flip side, most colors (other than two tone brown) aren't geezer colors IMO
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