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2011 Hyundai Sonata

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  • fushigifushigi Posts: 1,234
    Since you're quoting metric consumptions, I'll preface by saying I'm responding using what applies to the US. Here, auto makers do not get to determine the published fuel economy ratings. The US government's EPA does (see http://www.fueleconomy.gov). While those who drive with a lead foot - lots of harsh acceleration, high-speed highway driving, etc. - may have problems achieving the EPA estimates, if you drive with light or moderate acceleration and don't drive exceedingly fast you can almost always beat EPA estimates. Temperature plays a role (colder = worse) as well as gas quality (regular v. premium, winter v. summer blend, etc.), tire type & inflation, and how loaded/weighed down the car is.

    Another factor is engine newness; oftentimes an engine won't return maximum fuel economy until it's been fully broken in. This can take from 2,000-5,000 miles so it's possible your fuel economy will improve even further.

    Congratulations on your new Sonata! It sounds like you're already getting more for your money than you hoped for.
  • pianotupianotu Posts: 10
    Would you be so nice to post a picture of the gray interior you have? Personally I thought the black leather is already somewhat gray-ish looking. From my understanding, the gray leather is actually much lighter in color.

    What a great deal you got! Congrats! Did you ask for the specific color/interior combo when you were negotiating? I'm still waiting for the camel interior to become more available before asking for quotes.
  • moontrainmoontrain Posts: 83
    Does your car have NAV for that price?
  • batch5batch5 Posts: 13
    edited April 2010
    Oops, sorry forgot to mention, no NAV.

    Also, will post pics soon but I've seen that pictures don't really do the gray interior justice. Nonetheless will get them up by hopefully today.

    We did settle on the color combination beforehand so, yes, we did ask for that when talking to the dealers.
  • moontrainmoontrain Posts: 83
    edited April 2010
    No NAV means less $2100. So with NAV it would be $25300. My Limited retailed for $28300 loaded and I am getting for $23550 plus TTL. They are also giving me $4300 for my 05 Elantra in fair condiction.
  • batch5batch5 Posts: 13
    Wow..23.5K for a limited with nav...now that is a great deal!
  • yoonnyyoonny Posts: 33
    From a person that went from 07 TSX to 11 Sonata LTD, I find Sonata as good as TSX overall and that the price premium on the TSX is not worth it. In terms of long term value, both Sonata and TSX have 3 year residual value of 57% - 58%, depending on what model. That's an indication that Sonata's value will keep up as well as. Plus, Sonata's street price is usually discounted more than the TSX. Also, use of regular gas, higher gas mileage, 10yr warranty for Sonata all adds up if you keep the car for a while.

    Although Hyundai's dealership experience may not be as good as Acura's but that's not a dealbreaker.

    I've been also getting really turned off by the design direction of Acuras/Hondas and feel that Hyundai/Kia are moving ahead of others and finally becoming the leaders in innovation and design. Pretty impressive.
  • Anybody in here familiar with the hybrid tax credits that have been going on for a few years? I just realized that the Sonata Hybrid should qualify for the full credit ($3,600 I believe?), but that unless Congress extends the program, you'll have to buy the car by 12/31/10 to be eligible. If I understand correctly, that means that (unless we hear differently from Uncle Sam) there'll be only a small window in December where the Sonata Hybrid will be available and we'll be able to get the tax credit. That might make or break my decision; if the hybrid is priced competitively (which it will be), we might expect to see OTD prices (after the credit) that are actually comparable to the prices we're currently getting for the 2.4 GDI! I'm thinking: MSRP might hit $30k for a loaded Limited, but street price even at introduction should be $1-2k less in many areas, and then if you subtract $3,600 from that... you're right around $24-25k OTD. Oh, and that's with a panoramic moonroof and even better fuel economy than the 2.4 GDI. Is my logic sound? Can we expect Congress to extend the program past 2010, allowing us to wait a little longer for the street price to drop further?
  • Thanks for the inputs on the pricing batch! I did some checking again, and found something similar on USAA. If anyone uses that bank they have a car buying service similar to AMEX to prenegotiate a price. I will be going into the dealer today with the following info for a White Limited, Tan interior, no Nav.

    MSRP is $26,015 + $385(wheel locks,ipod connector,floor mats) = $26,400 w/o TTL
    USAA price is $23,808 + $330(locks,ipod,mats) - $500 military credit = $23,638 w/o TTL.

    That's a $2,762 savings off MSRP. Supposedly, invoice is $24,958.

    Hope this helps anyone else shopping. Happy Hunting! :shades:
  • lightfootfllightfootfl Posts: 442
    edited April 2010
    I have seen many reports of mileages (MPG), and 0-60 speeds, etc.. but I haven't seen any regarding the top speed of these models. Does anyone know what they are capable (assuming legal ?) of achieving? I don't imagine any of them are going to be running in the 140mph range as are some of the older units, with the 6 cyl. Just wondering, and I know they are only 4 cyl units.
    Thanks for any replies.
    van
  • meikmeik Posts: 63
    Well, it is good to see someone who want to compare 2011 Sonata to the upper class cars, Infinity in this case.

    I totally can see your point about improvement and agree with some of them. IMO, they don't need a Sonata Ultra, they just need a new base Azera with nice features at nicer price. ;)
  • lightfootfllightfootfl Posts: 442
    Just encountered what I would call a bad battery. Mine is original, and I just went out to go for an errand type ride, and the only thing that happened is, that old fashioned clicking type sound...seems like waaay old times.. Anyway, my question is, does anyone have any suggestions, regarding a new battery?? ie Name, costs, etc...

    Thanks, van
  • gary045gary045 Posts: 81
    Consumer Reports rates the Everstart Maxx battery near the top at number 2 and 3 for only $75. Sold at Walmart.

    Also a good pick is the Duralast Gold at $90.
  • I buy Duralast batteries from Autozone; depending on what "level" of battery you get they'll replace it free if it goes bad within 1-3 years (one of mine did, they tried to recharge it and it wouldn't work so they looked up when I had bought it and just gave me a new one to walk out the door with) -- not to mention many credit cards offer "double warranties" that could stretch that out to 2-6 years. I have no idea whether these are better quality batteries, but I'd rather have a mediocre battery with a good (and convenient) warranty than a good battery with a difficult/nonexistent warranty.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,972
    edited April 2010
    This forum is about the 2011 Sonata. You might want to try the main Sonata forum under "maintainence and repair". You'd probably get a lot more info. I personally like Sears batteries and have good luck with them over the years for replacement but there are so many out there I'm sure everybody has a favorite.
  • denp3denp3 Posts: 99
    edited April 2010
    I am going to try and get one thrown in on my deal.
    Also want mud guards. I know I can get mud guards from Shark Racing for $45.00.
    Don't know if they have cargo nets.
    What color exterior and Interior do you have? Just curious.
  • denp3denp3 Posts: 99
    What color exterior? Are you happy with the gray interior?
    I have a Harbor Gray with gray interior coming in tomorrow.
    Hope I like the gray interior.
  • gary045gary045 Posts: 81
    Now that you mentioned the Diehard Sears battery, also available at Kmart.
    It's rated number 1 if cost is no problem.
    Diehard Platinum costs $190, more than double other very good batteries.

    Diehard Gold costs $110 and is rated lower than the $75 Walmart battery in case anyone is interested.
  • pianotupianotu Posts: 10
    Thank you VERY MUCH for the pics and fast response! It looks great and it helped answering my question on the difference between black and gray leather interiors. Can't wait to shop for my own!

    Happy driving!
  • syitalian25syitalian25 Posts: 303
    Very nice pics. I have the SE w/gray interior and the leather seems a few shades darker on my car than on the Limited. Just a thought if anyone is thinking of getting the SE. I am happy with the color, although I would also strongly consider black.
  • akumaakuma Posts: 70
    does anyone know why the new 2011 Kia Optima (in SX trim) will be so much better optioned than the Sonata? it will have things like power passenger seat, heated and cooled front seats, memory driver seat, heated steering wheel, HIDs with auto leveling, auto up and down windows for both driver and passenger, air-conditioned and lighted glove box, illuminated door scuff plates (like the Genesis), sun visor extensions, panoramic sunroof, and Microsoft UVO. and it's expected to still be around $1,000 less than a comparable Sonata. and it looks better too IMO.
  • capplacappla Posts: 29
    Anyone have any pictures of the SE w/ black interior they can share?
  • jparks8jparks8 Posts: 19
    To my surprise, when I stopped for coffee at Tim Horton's at 09h00, two couples ad one single male circled my new Sonata 2011 for a better look. One couple came to my table to ask me questions. And, I bought a Harbour Grey car so it wouldn't be noticed in hopes that the thieves would steal someone's red sports car rather than my car.
  • shabadoo25shabadoo25 Posts: 216
    If you like that option package and the looks better, buy one.

    It does not look better than the Sonata IMO.
  • syitalian25syitalian25 Posts: 303
    edited April 2010
    Where are you getting the info about the Optima's features? I saw one at the NY Auto Show and I can tell you it had nearly none of those features except maybe one-touch down windows and some basic stuff like that. Definitely no cooled seats or heated steering wheel on any models I've seen. Hyundai/Kia is generous, but I doubt they are offering all those features for $25K with the same engine from the Sonata. And it also definitely does not look better IMO, although not a bad looking car either the Sonata is gorgeous. It seems that the Optima basically has most of the features as the Sonata, for about the same price.

    Cars.com
    The 2011 Optima continues Kia's recent trend of offering a lot of standard features, such as power windows, dual exhaust, 16-inch steel wheels, air-conditioned glove box, tilt/telescoping steering wheel, USB, Bluetooth and steering-wheel controls. If you get an LX with automatic transmission, cruise control and an eco-driving reminder are added as standard.

    The EX trim adds 17-inch alloy wheels, fog lights, heated side mirrors, chrome and body-colored door handles, UVO entertainment system, rearview camera, push-button ignition, dual-zone climate control with rear vents, auto-dimming rearview mirror and auto up/down front windows.

    SX adds auto-leveling high-intensity-discharge headlights, LED rear taillights, rear spoiler, side sills, 18-inch black alloy wheels, leather seats, upgraded LCD gauge cluster, steering-wheel paddle shifters, and metal pedals and door scuff plates.
  • lightfootfllightfootfl Posts: 442
    You are right about that, I should have gone to that site, dunno why I didn't think about it. Guess frustration and old ? age had something to do with it. Sorry,
    van
  • poodog13poodog13 Posts: 320
    And, I bought a Harbour Grey car so it wouldn't be noticed in hopes that the thieves would steal someone's red sports car rather than my car.

    Wow, selecting color based on likelihood of theft? Time to either move or invest in a Lo-Jack!
  • garcia81garcia81 Posts: 2
    I have the same car white and black i am loving everyday more verynice and good looking car!!!
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