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2011 Hyundai Sonata

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  • craigmricraigmri Posts: 243
    Casey,

    Actually, The first day of full production of the 2011 was January 4th....How would I know this? I did the factory tour that day. I promise you the 2010 stopped production just before Christmas.

    Craig
  • steven39steven39 Posts: 636
    as most everybody knows,the last few years sonata models have been plaqued by a "thunk" issue involving the sonata suspension.i hope for huyndai's sake that they have worked this problem out for the 2011 model sonata.
  • Your knowledge is more reliable than mine. I based mine on Dawn Kent at the Birmingham News. She wrote an article ,stating that the 2010's were done and the 2011's were being assembled but were at 40%. There were photos of people checking the quality of the 2011 autos as they came down the line. You can go to the Birmingham News site and type in "2011 Hyundai Sonata" and it gives a lot of info along with photos. My favorite reporter is Cosby Woodruff of the Montgomery Advertiser.My Ca contacts still haven't received an order window although they expected one last week. Anyone heard any thing concerning prices [ except under $2000 ]. I am like a kid the night before Christmas.
    Casey
  • Here is the article by Dawn Kent. I went back to check if my memory was correct and it was : Casey

    http://blog.al.com/assembly-lines/2009/12/redesigned_sonatas_now_rolling.html
  • m6userm6user Posts: 3,048
    You just read the date in the article wrong. It was dated Dec. 17th not Jan 17th.
  • No,actually the date of Dec 17,2009 is what I was basing my statement on. Dawn said the 2010 models ceased to be mfg on 12/17/09 and the assembly of the 2011 models was started. It really doesn't make any difference as to whet I said or meant. My question remains. What will the price be on the 2011 sonata. In my last statement, I wrote in the parenthetical citations , the price of the 2011 as under $2000 [a boo-boo] when I actually meant to write under $20,000

    Casey
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,784
    Hold on another couple of weeks. Hyundai is making a big splash on the 2011 Sonata with the Super Bowl. At that point the cars should be trickling in to dealers. So I think we'll see pricing announced very soon. We'll also see the March car issues come out in the next couple of weeks, and I would be really shocked if we didn't see reviews of the car in some of those--again to coincide with rollout of the car in NA.
  • rdm925rdm925 Posts: 46
    Hello, I checked out a 2011 Sonata sedan at the Detroit auto show yesterday. It was a pre-production SE model. I sat in it and looked it over. I'm very impressed and will seriously consider it as my next car. I'm looking forward to read the future road tests and comparsions by the auto mags and blogs. I hope it is sporty and responsive. That's what I like about my current 2007 Mazda 6i 5-door. :shades:
  • m6userm6user Posts: 3,048
    I don't believe the Sonata will nearly as sporty and responsive as your Mazda, even the Sonata SE model. It may be more responsive than the current version of the Sonata but I'm pretty positive it won't approach what you're used to with your 6. I'm hoping it steps up a notch from it's current handling but I'm not expecting a sports car feel by any means. They have different marketing goals.
  • splxsplx Posts: 8
    2011 Sonata with a base engine (200hp) may not be sporty and responsive as your Mazda 6, but i'm quite certain that a turbocharged 2011 Sonata (coming end of this year) which produces around 280hp will be very sporty and responsive.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 3,048
    It's only 198hp in the GLS/Limited, the SE has 200hp but who's counting. I was really referring to the handling not the power(my I4 is no speed demon) which you may be equating to responsiveness :confuse: . They may adjust the handling across the line for the turbo but I doublt it....it will probably just have more power like they did with the V6. They may tweak SE some more. This is all guesstimate on my part, I have no inside info.

    I've read a lot of different numbers on the output of the turbo for the Sonata. I would think around 250-260 but anythings possible. If you have a reliable source that the 280hp is definite and that that they are going to up the "very sporty" factor in the handling department - please let us know.
  • rdm925rdm925 Posts: 46
    Hi m6user, you are possibly right. The test will if they concentrate on handling and response. I was impressed with the design and style. However with the fasback roof the trunk opening is small. They should consider a 5-door and Mazda should bring out a 5-door in the 6 line again. :shades:
  • m6userm6user Posts: 3,048
    I really think they have concentrated on a lot of things and going all out on the handling doesn't seem to be high on their list. Styling, interior, powertrain, fleet mpg, middle of road ride(no pun intended here) seem to be where they spend their dollars.

    They try to attract the average midsize family car buyer with the Sonata and they are trying to grow their sales. I don't think trying to be like Mazda is part of their strategy.

    A 5dr would be nice but I think there are so many crossover vehicles now that have great hauling ability and are more carlike that people that really need something like that buy a CUV or whatever. I personally think that is why Mazda got out of building them. They would rather have people buy their CX7 with a higher profit margin.
  • jnrusjnrus Posts: 2
    On my invoice statement for the 2010 V-6 Sonata Limited I just purchased, it states the V-6 engine is american made. Anyone know who makes the Sonata V-6? I'm curious since my V-6 looks like a Chrysler Product In layout and location of attached parts. Any guess who makes it and if it is made to Hyundai design and specs or is it a Chrysler design and specs?
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,784
    This is not really on topic, since the 2011 Sonata won't have a V6. But the V6 in the 2010 Sonata is made by Hyundai in its Alabama factory and is a Hyundai design.
  • splxsplx Posts: 8
    the V6 (LAMBDA 3.3) is assembled in USA but designed and developed in South Korea by Hyundai.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 3,048
    Thanks for the links. Like I said, I have not seen anywhere how much horsepower the turbo will have that Hyundai is going to use in the Sonata.....just guesses like the article says "perhaps".. If I had to guess, I would say around 240 to 250 hp. That would give some nice grunt from the torque and still keep MPG under control. They are not making an "Evo" type of car....it is a family sedan.
  • http://paultan.org/2008/11/21/new-hyundai-20l-theta-gdi-turbo-engine/

    Hyundai has developed a new turbocharged gasoline direct injection version of its Theta family engine. The Theta family is essentially a derivative of the GEMA World Engine project, a joint venture between Hyundai-Kia, Chrysler and Mitsubishi. It comes in 1.8, 2.0 and 2.4 liter sizes.

    Derivatives of the GEMA engine found in cars sold in Malaysia include the Kia Optima 2.0, the Naza Citra II Rondo, the Mitsubishi Lancer and the Lancer Evolution. There have already been two turbocharged applications of GEMA derivatives in the market, a 2.4 liter turbo by Chrysler and a 2.0 turbo by Mitsubishi found in the Lancer Evolution.

    Hyundai claims their Theta Turbo GDI engine has a capacity for up to 286 horsepower so far. Other than gasoline direct injection, it also features continuous variable valve timing. Various states of tune will probably be available – perhaps 200hp, 240hp and 286hp versions depending on the car its installed in.
  • This may be interesting to you, go to this site.

    Hyundai Motor Manufacturing Alabama; LLC.
    under it click on tours, by manufacturing plant choose (manufacturing
    process) and then scroll down and watch video.

    I bought the SE V6 several months ago, nice vehicles!!

    good luck with yours
  • m6userm6user Posts: 3,048
    Hellooooh, that link was posted a couple of posts back but thanks for posting it again. Like I said, I know what the engine may be possible to produce and all that. All I'm saying is that, to my knowledge, Hyundai has not announced how much hp they are going to produce off this engine for the Sonata. I highly doubt they will put out 280+ hp. That would probably require premium fuel, get lower mpg than they want for CAFE and possibly suck some sales from their Genesis line.
  • splxsplx Posts: 8
    In its place is a turbocharged 2.0L GDI that will offer more power than the outgoing 3.3L V-6. That motor, under the hood of the current Sonata, generates 249 hp and 229 lb-ft of torque. "We're well beyond that," Krafcik said.

    Read more: http://wot.motortrend.com/6582100/auto-shows/2009-la-2011-hyundai-sonata-feature- s-turbo-four-price-under-20k/index.html#ixzz0dUKpIUGL

    yeah, there is no clear evidence that the engine will produce around 280hp, but
    considering this article, the turbo charged engine for 2011 Sonata should be in range of 260 ~280.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 3,048
    No, I the articles that were linked before definitively stated that they can produce 286 hp from the engine. The question is: How much hp will the Sonata end up having. I hadn't seen that quote before and if it's true then your estimate of 260-280 may be right on. Beating the torque of the late V6 won't be hard as the turbos always have tons of torque but I'm still am of the opinion that it will be no more than about 260hp, maybe 265 but that is just an educated guess as yours is. We'll see. If they do get 280hp and keep good mpg and still use regular gas that would be something unless they price it too high.
  • You may be right about the new Sonata's handling, but judging from reviews of the new Tucson you might be wrong. Many reviewers really like the new firm ride, others think it's a little harsh, but pretty much all reviews have agreed that the handling is quite nice, with great dynamics (e.g. body roll control, etc).
  • carbuntcarbunt Posts: 40
    As someone who recently toured Hyundai's Alabama plant and saw the 2011 Sonata, Hyundai is being real cagey about the final numbers but all I can tell you is that the 250-265 horsepower range with the turbo is right in the ball park. :)
  • m6userm6user Posts: 3,048
    I would be shocked if the new '11 Sonata's handling is anything close to a Mazda6 from the 2003-2008 time frame. It may be closer to the new Mazda6 which has softened their ride a little bit but probably still will be slightly softer. If it's not, then I will have been wrong which has certainly happened before. We are all guessing here as nobody has driven one yet. I'm making an educated guess. Just because the Tucson may be a little tighter ride doesn't mean the Sonata is suddenly becoming a sport sedan. That's like saying the new Chevy Equinox rides firmer than before so obviously the new Impala will be a sports sedan now. Could be but highly unlikely. At least I'm willing to go out on a limb and state my opinion, wrong as it could be, and I'll be the first one to admit it if I'm wrong.
  • Jason5Jason5 Posts: 440
    Thought I was "hooked" on a 2010 or 2011 Mazda 6 with the 2.5 as an second vehicle to my larger SUV. When I first saw the 2011 Sonata teasers (and off-shore sites) I wasn't sold on the styling but the powertrain certainly got, and continues to hold, my attention. I've seen several post saying the turbo would be 2.4 and I can't help but think that it would a better choice than a more high strung 2.0 liter turbo. Guess we'll have to see.
    Someone PLEASE send up a flare on here when you see on a lot and give the location. I certainly will!
  • marvin6marvin6 Posts: 72
    I, too, believe there is a good chance the turbo will be the 2.4 simply because that engine (2.4) is made in Alabama. It wouldn't make a lot of sense to have an engine plant in the factory that assembles the cars, then import other engines for those cars. But who knows? I was initially interested in a sonata until I saw no V6 option and I wrote it off. With a turbo, I may hold off on purchasing until the 4 cyl turbo is on the market.
  • Jason5Jason5 Posts: 440
    Guess we'll see Marvin.... I understand your concern but I can't imagine that with 200hp and a six speed automate--the new Sonata would be slow. I'd wager 0-60 in less than 8 seconds. Looking forward to seeing the tests when they come out!
  • marvin6marvin6 Posts: 72
    My primary concern was not the 0-60 times. I live in a hilly area and was more concerned about the automatic constantly shifting in 5th gear (or 6th in the case of the new transmissions). I have written off 4 cylinders because it's like work to drive my 4 cyl accord and I was looking for something that could pull hills without having to "work the car". I know accords are horrible for road noise, but the other 4 cyl cars I have test driven were not even options I would consider as the engines were noisy. I swore off 4 cylinders, but will wait for the turbo 4 to come out from hyundai and give it one more try.
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