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2010 VW Golf

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  • The Golf TDI is supposed to sit higher, something like 15 mm, which is still lower than the gas Golf. The interior of the GTD has better supported seats and the front grill is a different pattern and trimmed in red. The engine of the TDI is 140 hp while the GTD is supposed to get 180.
  • I can't wait to drive this thing. I hope I'm not too tall for it (6'3"). Is back seat room miniscule or can it fit 2 adults for an hour long ride?
  • i'm short but i know folks with the mk5 who are 6'4" and have plenty of head room. the mk6 is even better for head room. the back seats are pretty spacious from what i've read so i think it should be plenty comfortable.
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 29,021
    VW cars are more comfortable for us tall fellows than anything out of Japan. I have a 6'7" friend that drives a New Beetle and a Town Car. He likes the head room better in his Beetle. I sat in the GTI and it had great seats and plenty of head room. IMO Civic and Accord are the worst for head room.
  • What will the stock wheels look like? Anyone know?
  • These are the 17" Porto wheels that will come stock on the TDI.

    http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/43359-4/IMG_5725.JPG
  • The Golf TDI is supposed to sit higher, something like 15 mm, which is still lower than the gas Golf. The interior of the GTD has better supported seats and the front grill is a different pattern and trimmed in red. The engine of the TDI is 140 hp while the GTD is supposed to get 180.

    actually its 170, and only the gti gets the red trim. the gtd will be a different color.

    the GTD is basically a GTI diesel.

    and its not coming to the states. they MAY offer the gtd interior and suspension settings, but it wont have the power of the real GTD as its supposed to be a stand alone model, not just a comsetic exercise.
  • After waiting for the new Golf to come to the states, and after admiring the 2010 model on a recent trip to Europe, I'm very disappointed in the U.S. specs.
    You cannot get a gasoline 5-door model with a manual transmission.
    Furthermore, the gas version of the 2010 Golf does not have the center armrest storage. You have to upgrade to the TDI to get these features.
    Sigh.
  • ike3ike3 Posts: 81
    I share your disappointment too. Blame it on the importer, VWOA. Check out the vw.ca site, which is the Canadian version. Their importer includes the front arm rest as standard in non-TDI Golf's, 3 or 5 door version. So, I would guess you can have it installed by your dealer as an option in the US version. I was disappointed that only
    one color choice was allowed...black, and that's it. Why not a choice, such as beige
    or gray? As far as TDI is concerned, overpriced and limited availability. I'll stick with
    the gas model, thank you very much VWOA.
  • Checking the Canadian specs on the 5-door 2.5 just infuriates me more! Thanks for sharing.
  • puffin1puffin1 Posts: 276
    When I bought My Type S Acura the Canadian version came with heated seats, mine didn't.
    Well,I went to look at the VW Golf Friday and the TDI was around $24k and no way were they going to budge.I thought it was way over priced.
    So,if I buy I get the gas 3dr HB Golf manual.
    What do you think I'd get for real milage?
    I think that this economy is going to still remain the way it is and next summer there will be more deals.
    However, the places Iv'e been to you have to get a salesman off his duff to help you. :sick:
  • Puffin

    You saw a Golf TDI in person already? Where do you live? And they seemed firm on MSRP you say? Did you test drive one? More details, puffin.
  • how is the tdi version overpriced?

    its just as expensive, if not less, than comprable hybrids, and only slighlty more expensive (or right on par) with the decked out top level versions of other compacts.

    and its far nicer on the inside to boot.

    your dissapointed with an armrest? so get the add on and pay the extra. the rabbit didnt get one either in base 2 door guise, this is nothing new. if its new to you, you have been out of it my friend, and this is all typical vwoa stuff.

    how can you be impressed with a car, then totally underwhelmed because it doesn't include an armrest? thats a bit nitpicky right? if its THAT important, you will shell out the extra dough.

    i fail to see how the tdi is overpriced. its so well equipped. and unlike top level versions of the nissan sentra, mazda 3 and honda civic, it offers a substantial fuel economy advantage, even if you are paying more for fuel.
  • considering candadian prices are out the roof, 24k for a tdi is a steal. thats what they cost in the states. there are civics that cost that much here.

    im really not getting this tdi is overpriced crap.
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
    A 2009 Civic Hybrid is $27,350 in Canada, plus there is a choice of the Golf City starting at $15,300 which is an absolute bargain, so I have no sympathy for the complaints of Golf TDI prices in Canada.
  • I sent an email via vw.com complaining about VW not offering a well-equipped 5-door manual with the 2.5L engine. I told the VW people they lost a sale. Here is the response:

    Thank you for contacting the Volkswagen website. We appreciate your
    interest in the 2010 Golf VI!

    At this time, there are no plans to offer the Golf VI 4-door with the
    2.5L engine in a manual. We apologize for any disappointment this may
    have caused.


    Since VW is supposed to project a sporty, upscale, European image, isn't it a shame that I'll probably now buy a Subaru 5-door with a manual???
  • uh, just because they dont sell a manual transmission doesnt meant the car is no longer sporty. just because it would be a tad sportier with one doesn't mean its lost all sporting pre-tensions.

    besides, they are a company that just so happens to offer the sportiest mass produced transmission available: the dsg. sure its not offered on the 2.5, but you are making it sound like the golf is just a drag to drive now. if you are totally dependent on manual trannies to for your driving enjoyment, there is a plethora of other cars out there for you. honestly, 4 door 2.5 manual transmission drivers represent a very small specfiic demographic.
  • Cars with automatics can seem sporty, but I'm among the few who think an automatic takes a lot of fun and a sense of control out of driving. If I wanted an automatic, I would be shopping in another automotive category. Call me old-fashioned, but after enjoying having a clutch and a stick-shift in every car I've owned since 1983, from Toyotas to Saabs, I'm unwilling to "settle" for a slushbox and let a computer shift for me.

    I've seen specs on this new Golf posted on VW's Euro and Canadian websites and think VW is cutting corners and eliminating customers who strongly prefer to shift their own gears. I could get a boring-looking Jetta with 5-speed manual, but as a city dweller with only one car, prefer that 5-door body style for its versality and sportiness.

    We had a 2000 Golf 1.8T, loaded with a 5-speed, and it was a blast to drive.

    Looking forward to see the new GTI specs, but not the plaid upholstery, higher sticker price and higher insurance rates.

    As for your suggestion to check out a "plethora" of other cars with manual transmissions, what is your definition of "plethora"?

    I don't want a stripped Toyota, a ubiquitous Honda, Focus, etc. I wanted an affordable German car again -- especially after the 2000 Golf.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,447
    Any car is a drag to drive with an automatic. My brothers 530i is boring to drive with an automatic, and my Accord is fun to drive with a stick shift.

    VW dropped the ball on this. No excuse. They don't need seperate epa testing just because of two more doors. The 4 door is the more practical car, why not match it with the more practical transmission. Just plain silly. Look at sales of the Jetta wagon - mostly TDI because the people that want the efficient body (most room) also want the efficient engine.

    Honda did something similar with the super effecient Civic from a few years back (hx?). They only offered it on the two door - a super efficient engine only available on the least efficient body style. I would have snatched up a 4 door in a heartbeat, but a two door was not even on the radar.

    The thing is people looking for two doors can always opt for the 4 door, but those of us with kids that need 4 doors cannot consider a two door. If anything the limited availability options should be on the two door.
  • "...but not the plaid upholstery".

    Oh man - I think that is really nice looking. Very "guys cabin" feel to it. I love it personally. Wish they'd option it on the regular golf tdi.
  • The plaid seats may seem novel, but what about after 6-months or 36-months? My dream Golf would have my mandatory manual transmission, Sirius radio and LEATHER seats.
  • Sounds good to me too. I want to drive one of these today! Hurry up vw.
  • ike3ike3 Posts: 81
    Responding to you eldaino2. I don't have an issue with the lack of standard equipped
    armrest in the 2 door Golf VI. I just noted it, responding to another writer in this forum.
    It isn't a deal breaker for me, I would pay the dealer to install the armrest and be done with it.
    Now, regarding the pricing of the TDI in 5speed or DSG, I stand by my previous comment. Overpriced. I don't see the value, unless one is driving alot of miles per year. I do 7 to 10 thousand miles a year. For the amount of driving I do, it doesn't make sense to spend an additional $3,000+ just to get an engine that will give me
    10-13 mpg more. Yes, I know the seats are better and so forth, but the gas model
    is a better value. Certainly compared to the topped trim levels of Sentra, Civic, and Lancer. Corolla is also a good value, with those heatable mirrors and provided armrests...and better gas mileage than Golf gas models. But the driving satisfaction in the Corolla vs the Golf...there is no comparison there. If one wants
    an appliance with good gas mileage...Corolla is the way to go, not Golf. But I believe most here want a great driving experience, good to great gas mileage, good reliability and a good value. Golf VI is a bit pricey, but those of us here will pay for it. The TDI though..I draw the line there. The Golf VI is not above criticism, which is why I posted the original comment last week. I happen to like it alot, but spending that kind of money to get 40+ mpg bragging rights is not on my radar. For some, money is no object. That's fine,
    and one can choose from the TDI to the Prius for the high mpg's. But unless one is driving over 20k miles a year, the savings aren't going to add up to make up for the high cost of procuring and maintaining the TDI.
    I guess we can agree to disagree on this one.
  • Let's hope the center armrest console part is offered through the dealer as an accessory for the 2.5 Golf models. I've gotten used to having that center armrest (especially in manual transmission cars) as a necessity not a luxury. Seems insane that it's not standard at this price point.

    I again reiterate that I wish VW would rethink offering the 2.5 Golf 5-door with a manual transmission and some of the upmarket equipment that are available to Canadian customers -- such as a satellite radio and even navigation.

    If VW is positioning itself as a sportier and more upscale brand than Toyota/Honda/Subaru/Ford, let's see evidence of that with the transmission offerings and the standard and optional equipment.
  • Ike 3,
    The diff is not $3000 for the TDI as there is a federal tax credit of $1300 for the six speed and $1800 for the DSG.
  • rcinmdrcinmd Posts: 139
    I compared a base 2010 Golf to a base 2009 Rabbit this past weekend at a local dealership.
    At a glance, I could not see any differences in equipment to speak of.

    Why then is there a 10% price hike? $1600.....
  • ecotrklvrecotrklvr Posts: 519
    I've always understood the meaning of the word "overpriced" to mean that the price is artificially high. In this case, I don't think that's so.

    It's taken VW tens of millions of dollars of development to bring it into being - it's as good as anything from MB or BMW. It costs a fair bit more than the gassers for VW to build and certify the TDI engine for US EPA and CARB, train their own repair departments, and provide a powertrain that will handle all that sweet sweet torque. In Europe it's a HUGE seller. Here, where diesel fuel is truly overpriced, they're selling all they can make. And that means that neither your nor I need to give our blessing to others to buy them, either. Where else can we get an engine anywhere as sweet as the TDI? Maybe the 2.0L TFSI? Another brilliant engine. And they get a decent premium for that one as well.

    So, yes it's more expensive. But IMHO, not unfairly so.

    Still waiting to drive a '10 Golf TDI. Lease is up in Feb. Look like a pretty sweet ride...
  • Does anyone know when we'll see the Golf TDI start to show up at dealers? I saw a new 2 door gas Golf driving in our neighborhood yesterday in NJ.
  • I called a few dealers in my area (Wisconsin) and was informed that their first batch of TDIs is due in November 8 or 9. Not sure if the same holds true for every dealership, however.
  • ike3ike3 Posts: 81
    rcinmd, this is news to me. That is pretty outrageous. And yet, not even an armrest on the 2 door base US model for this year either. I sat in one today, a 5 speed, with only the "winter package" added. Ithought that price looked kinda high, now that I'm thinking about it.
    Whatever happened to the $16,990 price we saw just 3 years for the very same model
    as a 5 speed, 2 door? Inflation, true. US dollar being weaker, sure.
    Where's the value? Does it retain its value after 3-4 years like a Civic? Corolla?
    Just asking, that's all.
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