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2010 VW Golf

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  • The plaid seats may seem novel, but what about after 6-months or 36-months? My dream Golf would have my mandatory manual transmission, Sirius radio and LEATHER seats.
  • Sounds good to me too. I want to drive one of these today! Hurry up vw.
  • ike3ike3 Posts: 81
    Responding to you eldaino2. I don't have an issue with the lack of standard equipped
    armrest in the 2 door Golf VI. I just noted it, responding to another writer in this forum.
    It isn't a deal breaker for me, I would pay the dealer to install the armrest and be done with it.
    Now, regarding the pricing of the TDI in 5speed or DSG, I stand by my previous comment. Overpriced. I don't see the value, unless one is driving alot of miles per year. I do 7 to 10 thousand miles a year. For the amount of driving I do, it doesn't make sense to spend an additional $3,000+ just to get an engine that will give me
    10-13 mpg more. Yes, I know the seats are better and so forth, but the gas model
    is a better value. Certainly compared to the topped trim levels of Sentra, Civic, and Lancer. Corolla is also a good value, with those heatable mirrors and provided armrests...and better gas mileage than Golf gas models. But the driving satisfaction in the Corolla vs the Golf...there is no comparison there. If one wants
    an appliance with good gas mileage...Corolla is the way to go, not Golf. But I believe most here want a great driving experience, good to great gas mileage, good reliability and a good value. Golf VI is a bit pricey, but those of us here will pay for it. The TDI though..I draw the line there. The Golf VI is not above criticism, which is why I posted the original comment last week. I happen to like it alot, but spending that kind of money to get 40+ mpg bragging rights is not on my radar. For some, money is no object. That's fine,
    and one can choose from the TDI to the Prius for the high mpg's. But unless one is driving over 20k miles a year, the savings aren't going to add up to make up for the high cost of procuring and maintaining the TDI.
    I guess we can agree to disagree on this one.
  • Let's hope the center armrest console part is offered through the dealer as an accessory for the 2.5 Golf models. I've gotten used to having that center armrest (especially in manual transmission cars) as a necessity not a luxury. Seems insane that it's not standard at this price point.

    I again reiterate that I wish VW would rethink offering the 2.5 Golf 5-door with a manual transmission and some of the upmarket equipment that are available to Canadian customers -- such as a satellite radio and even navigation.

    If VW is positioning itself as a sportier and more upscale brand than Toyota/Honda/Subaru/Ford, let's see evidence of that with the transmission offerings and the standard and optional equipment.
  • Ike 3,
    The diff is not $3000 for the TDI as there is a federal tax credit of $1300 for the six speed and $1800 for the DSG.
  • rcinmdrcinmd Posts: 139
    I compared a base 2010 Golf to a base 2009 Rabbit this past weekend at a local dealership.
    At a glance, I could not see any differences in equipment to speak of.

    Why then is there a 10% price hike? $1600.....
  • ecotrklvrecotrklvr Posts: 519
    I've always understood the meaning of the word "overpriced" to mean that the price is artificially high. In this case, I don't think that's so.

    It's taken VW tens of millions of dollars of development to bring it into being - it's as good as anything from MB or BMW. It costs a fair bit more than the gassers for VW to build and certify the TDI engine for US EPA and CARB, train their own repair departments, and provide a powertrain that will handle all that sweet sweet torque. In Europe it's a HUGE seller. Here, where diesel fuel is truly overpriced, they're selling all they can make. And that means that neither your nor I need to give our blessing to others to buy them, either. Where else can we get an engine anywhere as sweet as the TDI? Maybe the 2.0L TFSI? Another brilliant engine. And they get a decent premium for that one as well.

    So, yes it's more expensive. But IMHO, not unfairly so.

    Still waiting to drive a '10 Golf TDI. Lease is up in Feb. Look like a pretty sweet ride...
  • Does anyone know when we'll see the Golf TDI start to show up at dealers? I saw a new 2 door gas Golf driving in our neighborhood yesterday in NJ.
  • I called a few dealers in my area (Wisconsin) and was informed that their first batch of TDIs is due in November 8 or 9. Not sure if the same holds true for every dealership, however.
  • ike3ike3 Posts: 81
    rcinmd, this is news to me. That is pretty outrageous. And yet, not even an armrest on the 2 door base US model for this year either. I sat in one today, a 5 speed, with only the "winter package" added. Ithought that price looked kinda high, now that I'm thinking about it.
    Whatever happened to the $16,990 price we saw just 3 years for the very same model
    as a 5 speed, 2 door? Inflation, true. US dollar being weaker, sure.
    Where's the value? Does it retain its value after 3-4 years like a Civic? Corolla?
    Just asking, that's all.
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
    Does it retain its value after 3-4 years like a Civic? Corolla?

    VW as a brand has a higher retained value than Honda or Toyota.
    Model specific I can say that TDI retained value for Golf is predicted higher than Civic or Corolla, for the gas Golf I can't say.
  • dwpcdwpc Posts: 159
    I've looked at the Fit, Civic, and Insight. The gas Golf (and TDI Jetta) is a quantum leap above them in driving, handling, comfort and features. The competition are cheaper; stripped down and utterly cheesy in comparison and (Insight excepted) get much lower mileage. I'm also calculating my fuel cost on $5/gal gas, which I think is only a year or two away. I'll have to wait another month to drive a TDI Golf, but after driving a Jetta, my mind is 95% made up. By the time you add even a moderate option pkg to the Hondas, the price difference is cut in half or more. Comparing only price, size and mileage, is ignoring a lot.
  • I heard the same from the two dealers in Denver. Early November.

    Interestingly, both dealers I called already had info (trim/ transmission / color / packages) on their first few allocations which would be arriving.

    One had an automatic TDI 4 door on the way nov 8thish.
    The second dealer had a couple of DSG TDIs enroute and a Manual 4 door which I snapped up with a $500 deposit later that afternoon. The dealer thought it was possible it might show up earlier than that... end of October. but who knows...

    I do know it was manufactured September 21, 2009 and have the vin. So it will be curious to see the lead time from manufacture date to delivery.

    What happened to the days when the next year models were out earlier every year (Sept, Aug, July June) ? Did we wrap around finally?
  • Update on this... The car arrived today (Oct 16) in Houston von Deutschland. Eta 7-10 days to clear port and make it to Colorado. So roughly four to five weeks from manufacture to delivery if anyone is interested in lead times.
  • wow, you must be one of the first. let us know how you like it!
  • for you the gas model does make more sense.

    but then again, you drie significantly less than even the average american. (15-17k a year)

    i on the other hand drive at least 28k a year, so the tdi makes a bit more sense to me.

    i can see everyone is bummed out about the stick thing on the foor door...call me crazy but i think there is more to enjoying driving a car than rowing your own gears. (crazy huh?)

    but in typical overtly exaggerative carspace fashion, i think you guys saying 'vw dropped the ball' is a bit much. maybe they dropped the ball FOR YOU, but dont classify the golf6's sucess based solely on what a group of people on the effing internet think vw should offer. ( i bet if we could tally up how many vw golf 4 doors were sold with m/t's, the number would be nothing to write home about.)

    as far as the price hike goes....that happens with a lot of cars. but the golf has been enchanced with a lot of things here and there that the pevious model did not have. have you guys seen the interior? its leaps and bounds ahead of the rabbit, which was already nice to begin with. that an all the added insulation and special glass they have used costs something.

    and btw, the plaid interior on the gti is EPIC, and holds up just as well as any other interior material would. if you dont care anything about the GTi's history or heritage i can see not liking it, but if thats the case maybe you should consider something else. that inteiror is awesome and has loads more personality than anything else in its class. (or above)
  • Picked it up yesterday... in a foot of snow. (Denver got a total of 20"-24" of the white stuff or so in the past two days.) That dealer also got two DSGs which were also sold before arrival. They're apparently not getting any more TDI's until December.
    I've been the airport a few times already (long story & drive), and done a fair amount of city driving. Cumulative mileage so far is 39mpg, though I do a bit of hypermiling, and I've not been pushing it at all yet, since the owenr's manual recommends some easy does it break in procedures for the first 1,000 miles. Not to mention the snow packed roads in many parts of town. Still, even at 60-70% throttle once it's warm, it pulls very nicely... Feels a lot like a friends V6 '02 Passat I've driven, but handles much better. It's great in snow, slush or hardpack... not the best on 3" icy hard-pack topped with 6" of slush/snow however... The antislip stuff seemed to do nothing on that combo... I miss my bliztek tires on my '02 tdi I traded in . Also nice in the snow: the electric assist heater in the AC unit. Gets warm fast!
    The interior feels like an Audi... (minus leather... of which I'm not a fan anyways) Nice job VW. The iPod interface is a bit flaky when leaving an iPhone plugged in between turning the car off and then on again a few minutes later (It gets confused between BT audio streaming and the MDI dock connector... ) Generally though, it's a pretty brilliant integration... much better than the aftermarket one my roommate got in his truck... It's only slow with the iPod when scrolling by dragging the scrollbar. But otherwise it's very uncluttered, complete, intuitive and nicely matches all the other instrumentation.

    Only complaints so far:
    1) The rather cute-sie Toyota sounding horn. Not sure if this is just the sound it makes when arming the alarm or not... as I've only used the real horn once. I think it was louder when using it via the steering wheel, but I'm not entirely sure. . (Epidemic of drivers deciding to turn in front of me on red without looking despite the slick conditions. People. *sigh*)
    2) Unlocking remotely is just as touchy as it was on the MKIV for opening the trunk and unlocking doors other than the drivers side. (Double click and press and hold not the best tech for a key fob. )

    Other differences from the MKIV I've only seen mentioned in one review:
    1) No internal trunk release... but unlocking the car suffices for external access.
    2) No internal Fuel tank release... I like this better, since on the MKIV this was the ONLY way to open the fuel cap and I was always forgetting to pop this. Now you just push in on the fuel door and it pops out.
    3) Back windows also have an Auto Roll up and Down feature, in addition to the front windows.
    4) AC vent in the glove box. (Remember this vaguely from a Passat ad a few years back... apparently it's trickled into the rest of the VW line. )

    I'll post more once the snow melts and I get a chance to put it through it's paces. So far very happy though. Much improved from the MkIV TDI I with slushbox that I traded in. Power when you want it... and fuel economy most of the time. Finally an aux-in / ipod integration as well!
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 13,559
    as you might guess from my "name", I understand the frustration of not being able to get a stick in every model.

    but, VW obviously knows their customers, and they aren't going to be giving up many sales. You might not buy, but likely, there arent too many others like you.

    my guess? The 4 door 2.5 is the "boring family truckster" model, and that traditionally gets sold overwhelmingly with an AT.

    sadly, these days, most of the stick buyers either get the cheapee strippo models, or the bigger engined sport models. So, you want a clutch, you get the turbo or a 2 door.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • eliaselias Posts: 1,828
    bingosabi, thanks for posting all the details. btw, i think your car is probably lacking a trunk release because it is lacking a trunk. (it's a hatchback, right?)
    I'm particularly interested in whether I can carry long skis/snowboards as well as at lesat two passengers in a golf TDI. (It's possible in a jetta TDI.)
  • I put another review up on my blog which has a few more details as I've started to figure out some more stuff about the car and get some more miles on it.

    http://bingosabi.wordpress.com/2009/11/02/golf-review/

    The 2002 TDI Golf I traded in had an interior rear hatch release, actually... Thought technically not a trunk, that's is what I meant. Anyways I figured out in the settings menu how to make the hatch unlock with a single click on the key fob rather than a press and hold which was never particularly reliable, and additionally how to unlock all doors (and hatch) when removing the key from the ignition.

    I'll try to pull my ski's out later today and try it out. There is a pass through to the "trunk" area in the center "seat" I'm sure it's enough room to allow for two adults in the back and some snowboards.. nordic ski's might be too long to fit however... (What I intent to test later for ya.)
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