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Honda Civic (coupe/hatchback)

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  • This is a great site! I used to drive a 1990 Honda Accord LX and just sold it with 287,800 miles on it. My friend however still has her accord with 340,000 miles on it. I used to drive my old car between 65 and 70 MPH and let me tell you it is no fun while everybody pass you on the left.
    Heck, I even have a trucker pass me on the freeway. In the last 100 thousand miles or so I began driving 80 mph constantly on my Accord. I got around 26 to 27 miles a gallon on the old car.
    Now with my new Civic 2001 I am driving it a little bit harder. I guess I am used to the fast speed.
    Say anyone here is experience with a hard start up? I mean when I turn the key the engine will not turn over till the 3rd try. I can hear the alternator cranking but the engine will not fire up. I also have to add 1 quart to my coolant reservoir since I got the car 3 weeks ago. I hope I don't have a coolant leak somewhere. I am paying close attention to the coolant reservoir to see if i need to add more in the next couple of week.
  • mpgmanmpgman Posts: 723
    I'm looking at Accord and Civic along with the VW Golf in diesel and gas variety. What kind of mileage do you get with your Civic? Auto or 5 speed? Which model? Thanks.
  • I am driving a 2001 Honda Civic LX / auto/ 4 doors. The sticker on the window when I bought it new it say 38 MPG on highway. It depends on how you drive it too. There are several earlier post in here that talk about how much MPG they got with their civics.
    I only use Shell 87 Octane on my car. So far my average is between 36 to 37.5 MPG and I only drive about 90% to 95% on highway. (210 miles a day commuting). The rest is just city street.
    Hope this help mpgman!
  • scoppascoppa Posts: 1
    I just bought a 97 Honda Civic EX last week and am regretting it. It seems to get poor gas mileage (around 22) and doesn't have much pick-up (its automatic and I'm used to manual). I used to have a CRX that I loved and ran into the ground, but this seems like a different breed. I'm thinking about turning around and selling it and buying a VW golf. Anyone have any comments?
  • carladycarlady Posts: 35
    We have a topic to help answer that very question: VW Golf or Honda Civic DX HatchBack. See you there!

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  • only1harryonly1harry Posts: 1,136
    That sounds pretty low. It 's very possible it needs a tune-up?
  • Which Golf model are you talking about? What's your price range? If you want to zip around, you'd have to get at least the 1.8 turbo. This one can get expensive.
  • If I were going to buy a used civic...1996 and later...what would you recommend? And how much should I be paying?
  • only1harryonly1harry Posts: 1,136
    It all depends on the mileage. Go look at the kelley blue book prices on line (forget the url). If you want a little pep go for the EX model but you can't go wrong with the DX or LX. They 're all very dependable. I got a '97 DX HB with 121k mi. and I beat on the car a lot. Kelley blue book says about $5400 retail for good condition (not excellent) and $4200 dealer trade-in. Expect to pay $7-8k for a '96-97 DX/LX (106hp) coupe/sedan with around 60k mi. EX (127hp) would be around $8500-9500 but that baby will run like new. Try not to go to a dealer to buy one. Look in the paper and buy from the original owner if you can. If you go to the dealer make sure you come down at least $1,000 from the asking price because they 're ripoffs.
  • If anyone is interested, I unfortunantly must sell my 2000 DX hatchback. I can't afford the loan. :-(

    It is black, 5-speed, AC, Pioneer CD, has 18,100 highway miles (99% are highway) and the remainder of the warranty.

    I am asking $12,000.
    You can e-mail me at lilienthala@post.uwstout.edu if you are interested, or just post here.

    I don't want to get rid of it; I love the car, but must pay off loans.
  • only1harryonly1harry Posts: 1,136
    That's what I got, my mine is a '97 black 5sp w/AC. Got 122k miles on it with no problems so I can attest to its reliability. I 'm still on the original rear brakes and have only done 1 tune-up at 80k mi. I 've replaced the front brake pads once at 83k mi. The muffler and axle back pipe will probably be the next maintenance item but they have about another 10k mi. to go before they get bad. The CAT-back pipe is still in very good condition which surprises me since it's not stainless steel but regular steel and I thought it would 've rusted by now. A new battery is probably another thing I should replace (still good though) but these are regular maintenance items that most cars have gone through already if they had 122k mi. on them like mine.
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  • WOW. dealership service centers have the propensity to SUCK in the biggest way. what a bunch of liars.

    I called the Honda dealership in Newton Mass, and they wanted to charge me $380 for 30,000 mile service (as recommended in the owner's manual).

    I wound up going to the Honda dealership in Everett Mass, and paid $280.
  • DON'T BUY A CIVIC

    I had 98 Honda Civic DX hatch back.

    The thing was absolute piece of junk. The clutch gave out twice in 5 months (my 78 Camaro Z28 has the origional clutch). The hood vibrated at idle. The dash rattled around like an old K-car. Fit and finish is very poor. The seats were very uncomfortable for long rides. The gas mileage on the highway is terriable if you go over the speed limit. The driver's door stopped working. Engine started making strange noises. There was more but I think you get the idea. Traded in the piece of junk after just 6 months to get 96 Ford Mustang GT which has be very reliable transportation but a little expensive on the gas. Don't get suckered by the over rated reputation for quality.
  • I have a 99 Civic Hatchback, it's my second Civic Hatchback, and it's the BEST car I've ever owned.

    NOTHING rattles or vibrates

    GREAT MPG, especially highway driving at 70mph.

    The driver's door works fine.

    My first Civic went 150,000 on ONE CLUTCH

    The seats are very comfortable

    Fit and Finish are top quality

    The engine is smooth and quiet

    z28man, I think you must have purchased a rare lemon.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,626
    Never heard of ANY of his complaints. Probably a Honda hater who has never owned one.
  • only1harryonly1harry Posts: 1,136
    a Honda hater. To have all those problems with a Honda in 6mos is just mind boggling unless that car had fallen off a crane or the truck that transported it, then I guess it would be possible.
    2 clutches in 5mos? what a joke, yeah right. How do you switch from a 4cyl 106hp Civic HB to a '96 Mustang GT 215hp? com'on..

    I have a '97 DX HB with 123k mi. on it. I bought the car new 4yrs and 2mos ago.

    I have the original Clutch and original everything.

    The only things that are not original are:

    Spark plugs, air filter, distributor cap, rotor and wires, timing belt (at 91k mi.), some hoses, front brakes and tires. All maintenance stuff. Still on the original rear brakes and battery! The only repair was an electronic speed sensor that went at 83k mi. and was covered under the extended warranty.

    Gas mileage: 34-36 at 60-70mph, 32-34 at 70-80mph. I once got 38mpg on a long trip driving at 59-60mph and not a mile over that. I did get 30mpg once but I was averaging 90mph on the highway and gunned it at stop lights and abusing the car. I was actually trying to see what the worst gas mileage would be.. :)
    The seats are fine IMO but they use some more padding. I think it's more our bodies and backs that can't take sitting in the same position for many hours. I 've driven in older and cheaper cars for 5-6hrs straight without getting out of the car and I had no problems because I was younger, now 10-15yrs later my back is not the same anymore. I had to stop and stretch my back every couple of hours on the trip to Atlantic City (Casinos) in my brother's '01 Impala and I thought the seats were really nice and comfortable. Now I know it's me and not the car seats.
  • rae52rae52 Posts: 99
    I have 35k miles on my '99 Civic DX hatch, 5spd.
    It is absolutely the best car and best Honda I've owned to date.

    No squeaks or rattles; Clinton Honda fixed my rattle hatch last year and that was the extent of warranty work!
  • only1harryonly1harry Posts: 1,136
    I didn't have any rattles at all up until my car was in a bad accident (went over a truck's axle on the hwy going 60mph along with 11 other cars) with $5500 damage. My Civic had 50k mi. on it at the time and most of the damage was suspension and chassis damage. I have a rattle in the back that comes and goes but lately I haven't heard it at all like in the past 2-3 mos. I thought the car would develop many rattles after that accident but it didn't. The exhaust is also holding up very well now at 123k mi. Not bad at all for a regular steel exhaust.
    Excellent commuting car especially for those with long commutes like myself. Have never been stranded or broken down. I 'll probably trade it in for a '02 Civic EX or LX couple towards the end of the year or next year. There is a great possibility Honda will bring back the hatchback for '02 and in an Si flavor as well! I may even get the Si HB if it's available, depending on what the sticker is.. I 'd be happy if they just bring the Hatchback with the EX 127hp motor.
  • schragemschragem Posts: 16
    My '92 Civic VX (135k mi) is a great, great car. I just had to replace the O2 sensor, and now the mileage is back to 48 MPG on mixed (mainly hwy) driving!! It had dipped into the hi 30's, and I thought it was just getting older, but it seems that the problem was that it was burning too rich and no longer is that the case. Have had to replace only a CV joint (pothole), rear bushings, and spark plug wires as far as non-routine maintenance, and I love the styling and feel of this car. It could use a bit more oomph (95 hp), but it's still fun to drive. I hope to hang onto this car until they come out with a fuel cell car (just saw a commercial for it), which might be awhile. Don't know why they ever discontinued the VX, but I hear that there might be a hybrid Civic next year.
  • igloomasterigloomaster Posts: 249
    I'm having my very first problem with my 99 Civic CX Hatch.

    New England got BLASTED with snow on Tuesday.
    I shoveled out my civic 3 times.

    Anyhow, today I'm back to work. I dug out the car, it started fine, and everything was going great until I got it up on the highway. When I hit 45 - 50 mph, I started getting this pulsation. I could feel it in the steering wheel, and my bottle of spring water was rattling in the holder. I pulled over into the breakdown lane and got out to look at the tires, figuring one was going flat. The tires were fine! I pulled back out, and accelerated normally. The automatic transmission seemed to shift smoothly and normally.

    I don't know what the source of the pulse is!

    I'm still at work; I'm going to drive it home and see if it happens again. Weird.

    It was FINE this past weekend.

    HELP!!!!
  • igloomasterigloomaster Posts: 249
    the pulsation is GONE! must have been build up of snow/ice on the rims, putting them out of balance (as prescribed in the maintenance and repair thread of this glorious message round-table).

    YEAH BABY, YEAH!!!!!!
  • pocahontaspocahontas Posts: 802
    We look forward to hearing more about your Honda Civic experience. Happy Motoring! ;-)

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  • Karen_CMKaren_CM Posts: 5,018
    ....but I'm here to announce the new Honda Civic Owners club now available on Edmunds.com Owner's Club board.

    Please stop by and introduce yourself in Meet the Members and let me know how I can help build your club.

    I have linked this discussion into that folder, but it will always reside here in Hatchbacks.

    Looking forward to meeting everyone!

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    Community Manager If you have any questions or concerns about the Forums, send me an email, karen@edmunds.com, or click on my screen name to send a personal message.

  • pocahontaspocahontas Posts: 802
    From Edmunds' coverage of the Geneva Motor show, here's some information on the Honda Civic Type R.

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    What do you think? ;-)


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  • only1harryonly1harry Posts: 1,136
    Too bad we 'll never see this car here. Let hope we 'll get the hatchback back in '02 as rumors have it..
    Igloomaster: You beat me to the answer. Every time I have to dig my Civic out of the snow I make sure I take off as much snow as I can from the rims. I still get the steering wheel vibration though many times because it's almost impossible to clean all the snow off the rims. My hands can't get through to some places deep inside the rims. Even 1oz of snow will throw the balancing off and you 'll get the vibration. Snow is very heavy and just think of it as extra balance weights on your rims. The only way to get all the snow off is to get a hose with luke warm water (yeah right) and hose them down. I usually only get the vibration when I hit 70-75mph though. Never at 50 or even 60. Always 70 or higher.
    Anyway this brings us to anothe good point. Since Civics are very sensitive to good wheel balancing you can easily ruin your tires prematurely. 2-3 years ago I got some Dunlop D60-A2 195-60-14HR tires and got them balanced just once when they first put them on. About 20k mi. later I started getting slight vibrations and knew they needed another wheel balance but never got it done. At 22-23k mi. I noticed they were getting worn unevenly. At 32k mi. the tires needed replacement and most of the tread was gone. So I got the same tires again. This time I balanced them again at 20k mi. They wore out evenly and lasted 45k mi. Lets not forget this is a High Performance tire and 45k is very good for an HR tire. Wheel alignment is not the only thing that will chew up your tires. Good balancing is also essintial to the tires lifespan. Now I have snow tires on but will get the Dunlops again in April since the 're a great performance tire and don't cost much. BTW, I do about 35-40k mi/yr on the Civic. Just turned 124k on the odo.
  • geck066geck066 Posts: 5
    This is the fourth Honda I have owned. I purchased this car used last May it had 6,000 miles on it. Got into a 5 car pile up in Sept. (I was car #1 in the pile up. My car was rear-ended) The damage was 4300.00 worth.
    This car is so strong, you'd never know it was hit by driving it or even looking at it. I can do 80-85 mph with no shakes or anything ratteling. After the accident I figured I would sell it...NO WAY! I love this car. It has great gas milage. and the integrity is awesome. the only problem I find is high insurance cost of this vehicle. The next Honda I get will be an EX model...I hate manually rolling my windows down.
  • only1harryonly1harry Posts: 1,136
    Yeah, mine was $5500 damage. I thought about selling it right after I got it back from the body shop. I took it up to 100mph and it was still rattle free and very stable (got 1" wider wheels and 10mm wider tires) and then I changed my mind. It had almost 50k mi. then. Now with 124k trouble free mi. I haven't regreted it.
    I don't know what to replace. I did a tune-up at 83k mi. I 'm trying to do something on this car, just because I 'm bored and want to mess with it a little. So I ordered a PVC valve and Manual transmission fluid (MTF) and an air filter, all Honda parts of course (hparts.com have the best prices!). I figure the tranny could use some fresh fluid (although the gears and shifter are smoother than ever) and the PVC valve must be a little dirty after 4yrs and 124k mi. And the air filter has been 40k mi. since I changed it. I guess I 'm doing some preventive maintenance and want to keep the motor running in good condition. I also for the first time picked up some Fuel Injector cleaner, I figured it couldn't hurt, although I haven't really noticed any decrease in acceleration but just in case there is some carbon build up maybe this will help.. I guess I 'm so happy with the ownership costs of this car that I feel I guilty I haven't spend much money on the car except for 1 tune-up (and some brake pads).
    Anyway, I think my next one will be an LX or EX. Getting a little tired of the manual windows too which never bothered me before but since I bought my Integra in '99 that has power everything, I got spoiled..
  • I have a 93 civic hatchback. It's gorgeous under the sun, the
    electric blue color just jumps at you, but I have many little
    dents on the doors that I am not happy with. I have been
    paying attention to the same model on the freeway and I
    notice 95% of them have dents. Is this because Honda uses
    thin metal sheet on the civic? If so how would this hold up in
    a car accident. Also need advice, what should I do with the
    dents? The car is great only have 80,000 miles on it, the
    engine is awesome. I just want it to be as beautiful as the day I got it. I am so attach to it that I won't get another car unless
    Honda comes up with another hatchback. I am not going Focus, thanks to my previous car, Ford Festive. Got it new. In the 4 yr I owned it, I had pumped tons of cash into the little sucker. My civic costs me very little to maintain. Viva
    Honda civic hatchback!
  • only1harryonly1harry Posts: 1,136
    we might get a hatchback for '02! There have been rumors that they 'll bring it back. I 'd definitely get another Civic HB, especially if they offered the 127hp motor or like an Si version. I really don't care much for the new coupes and I think they 're a little overpriced, especially when they don't have the double-wishbone suspension up front.
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