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2010 Mitsubishi Outlander

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  • fushigifushigi Posts: 1,248
    Any update on a target release date for the '10? Nov-Dec '09 is a bit far off for me (let alone Nov-Dec '10 as posted). I'm getting into the market for a new car now, and my wife & I both like the '09 Outlander XLS. But with the potential for more engine power (better low end torque would be nice) and better fuel economy, I would prefer the '10 to the '09. I can handle the styling and my wife probably could.
  • psychogunpsychogun Posts: 125
    chelentano may have made a small typo. He probably meant Nov-Dec '09.
    I would say that October '09 would be the very earliest.
  • chelentanochelentano Posts: 634
    yes, typo. Nov-Dec 09 prediction is based on last year's new Outlander model availability and I think it's as late as it gets for 2010 model, but in theory could be anytime sooner. Look, the new MB GLK and Lexus RX 2010 are already available since February - March.
  • fushigifushigi Posts: 1,248
    Yeah, the whole model year designation is getting fuzzier every year. Not that "there outta be a law" but it would be nice if automakers would grant the .5 designation to new/updated models released in the first half of the year. The MB & RX you cited, for instance, really ought to be 2009.5 models with the 2010 models to be released no earlier than July '09. After all, if the new model year cycle keeps running at under 12 months, pretty soon we'll be skipping a year and the 2013 models will be released in 2011.

    Speaking of, I've seen a few GLKs on the road and they really look sharp. Almost makes me want to go Euro for my next ride. But then I go to price one ..

    Anyway, back to the Outlander. Thanks for the feedback. I'll show the pics of the revised model to my wife & see if she wants to wait. I'm borderline and think that while I really like the Lancer look I'm not 100% sure how well it's translating into the Outlander. But the idea of better power & fuel efficiency and the other updates has me wanting to wait.

    For comparison purposes, we'll be test driving a Santa Fe later today. It's one of the few alternatives we've found that hit our price and comfort range.
  • batman47batman47 Posts: 606
    Hi,
    May I ask you to confirm the launch date of the new Outlander with the new nose and the S-AWD system? Edmunds.com says that this new Outlander will be in the USA for sale next year. However a Mitsubishi dealer in California told me that he could get me the new Outlander in October/November this year. Who are right, Edmunds or you and the dealer? I have already sold my previous 2008 Outlander to my son, so now I am in the market to buy a new AWD vehicle.
  • fushigifushigi Posts: 1,248
    A quick update on my last post: My wife didn't care for the revised looks of the new Outlander so if we go that route it'll be an '09 and not a '10. I'm mildly disappointed as I'd like the '10's improvements but can live with the '09. I do prefer the '09's style but could have easily lived with the '10's looks as well.

    We drive the Santa Fe yesterday and it was fine. Not inspiring but fine. I'd actually like to see the Hyundai 3.3V6 in the Outlander; it did have a better off-the-line response (obviously more low-end torque). But beyond that the drive was boring. The suspension was OK but the Outie seemed to handle poor road surfaces better. The interior was clean but bland. For some reason the cupholders were more noticeable than I would care for. Feature-wise, it looked like the SF has more cargo area but the Outlander uses it better; i.e. fold-flat seats and the split hatch for long, flat items. SF 2nd row seats recline but do not move fore/aft. The Outlander also has more gadgets :) and the killer RF stereo.

    Also, a quick kudos to the Hyundai dealer for, like the Mitsu dealer, being no-pressure and reasonable to work with. The sales guy had us drive their test pattern v. just letting me go where I wanted (which the Mitsu guy did) but that's the only deterrent. And Hyundai doesn't print brochures anymore which, while I can applaud the effort for eco reasons, I'd rather have it to use while comparing models.

    In the end I'm rating the Outlander an 85 of 100 and the SF a 72. The Outlander is our current benchmark against which we'll put any other vehicles we test drive.
  • chelentanochelentano Posts: 634
    Sorry, my date is just a prediction/guess based on previous year, but your dealer's date sounds right.
  • chelentanochelentano Posts: 634
    Yes, Santa Fe's engine is little more powerful, but the SF is little heavier too, therefor it's not quicker since power-to-weight ratio is probably a wash. But were Outie wins in driving department is smoother 6-speed tranny (with Idle Neutral Logic and paddle shifter toy), exciting sharp handling, better 3-mode AWD (even further improved S-AWC in 2010 model), 19-inch OZ Racing wheels and large Brembo brakes. Santa Fe can't beat that.

    Also the Outlander has much better reliability rating according CR:
    http://s215240594.onlinehome.us/CR2008_smallsuv.gif

    Santa Fe:
    http://s215240594.onlinehome.us/CR2008_midsizesuv.gif
  • toomanyfumestoomanyfumes S.E. Wisconsin Posts: 904
    You're impression of the Santa Fe is similar to mine. A competent, but uninspiring vehicle. My sister in law has a Santa Fe Limited, and it is nice, but I still prefer my Outlander. One thing the Hyundai dealer by me did, is find only top-of-the-line vehicles to test drive. We were looking for a small sedan last year, and drove base 4 cyl. Accord, Galant, and Fusion. All the Hyundai dealer had to drive was a loaded Limited V6. It fooled my wife, she thought it was much nicer. "Yeah, but." kinda apples to oranges.

    I'm kinda warming to the new front end on the Outlander, but I'm keeping my '07 for a long time.
  • batman47batman47 Posts: 606
    Will all the Outlander trims (e.g. SE, XLS, etc) have the new nose or just the 2010 Outlander GT?
  • fushigifushigi Posts: 1,248
    Can't say for sure but I'd imagine all Outlanders will get the new schnoz. It's rare for a manufacturer to offer a model with significantly different noses. Generally all you see are things like grill color (black/chrome) and fog light treatments.

    BTW based on the pictures my wife doesn't care for the revised look. But I'm holding out for it anyway. More for the powertrain improvements than anything else. And because CARS has temporarily driven prices up and me out of the market as my Galant is not a clunker.
  • batman47batman47 Posts: 606
    Dealers are collecting deposit to order the new 2010 Outlander GT. I sent a $1000 to a dealer who promised me to get the car in November this year.
  • chelentanochelentano Posts: 634
    Wow, what kind of configuration/pricing have you ordered?
    What does the dealer say weather all Outlanders will have new nose, or just GT?
  • batman47batman47 Posts: 606
    He said that all the Outlander trim will have the new nose, i.e. ES, SE, XLS and the GT.

    I asked the 2010 Outlander GT with the 3-main packages i.e. Navigation, Luxury, and the Sun & Sound. I have also requested the Protection accessory package.

    You may approach your local Mitsubishi dealer to ask for one. As far as I know dealers in the US had until 17th August to order the new 2010 Outlander.

    I think dealers don't want to talk about the 2010 Outlander because they have in stock a considerable number of 2009 Outlander. The dealer I am talking about just sold all the 2009 Outlander and he will not order anyone moren 2009 Outlanders.
  • dela555dela555 Posts: 1
    I live in Canada, and I am torn between getting a 2009 Outlander (for which it appears there are great deals) and waiting for the 2010 model (which a couple of dealers have informed me will be available in October). Other than pictures showing that the front grill is very different (which I imagine will affect the resale value of my 2009), I do not know anything else that is supposed to be different (1 dealer swore nothing will be different till I asked him to google photos of the 2010 and then he claimed only the grill will be different!).

    Anyone with information on what else will be different, and also the pricing issue, will be well appreciated.

    Also, I saw in a different part of the forum that 2007s had a problem with the heating system in extremely cold weather. Does anyone with 2009 model have problems with that? I can't have a cold car in the middle of winter where i live!

    Many thanks.
  • batman47batman47 Posts: 606
    Go to:

    http://media.mitsubishicars.com/detail?mid=MIT2009040932710&mime=ASC

    Usually people working in the dealership don’t know about details of new cars other than the dealership manager itself. The less the salesmen know about the new model the best for the dealership owner. In summary perhaps the trim ES, SE, XLS may be the same as the model 2009. But if you order a 2010 Outlander GT then this is practically another animal. You may download file from the above name link to know exactly the difference between the 2009 Outlander (any trim) and the 2010 Outlander GT.
  • I have serious doubts as it is announced that the Outlander GT will have 19-inch OZ Racing wheels and large Brembo brakes.. I think these wheels were used just for the New York car shown. Presently the standard tire size is 225/55R18 in the XLS. There isn’t 225/55R19 in the market so I assume that the car will come with 225/45R19 witch will drop its 8.5” ground clearance to perhaps 7.5” (similar to the RAV4). Brembo brakes and OZ off road wheels may be but perhaps as an option. Real 2010 Outlander GT may be depart from what it was inform to us from the New York Outlander. I don’t know when my 2010 Outlander GT arrives to my dealership it will be a nice surprise or a disappointment.
  • I don’t think that Mitsubishi Motors will use stock tires from Korean (Kumho). Most probably the side of the tires will be 225/45R19 Goodyear or Pirelli.
  • Mitsubishi Lancer GTS. They weren't the best tires overall...at the 30,000 mile mark they needed to replaced. In Dec. of 2008 I bought Pirelli P-Zero Nero M+S P215 45R18 tires for my Lancer GTS. Love these new Pirelli's, handling and road feel and confidence are all very, very good with these tires.

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  • In August 2009 the 2010 Outlander was seen at a MM dealership in Monterey, CA and the vehicle has a California Number Plate. Lately in China the 2010 Outlander was displayed at the China’s Auto Show (September).

    It is most probably that the sale of the 2010 Outlander GT will start in the US at the beginning of December this year as a 2010 model. MM hasn’t announced yet when this car will be sold in the US. I have contacted two dealers and one told me that the car will be for sale in October and the other the first week of December. But what is certain is that the car will be sold before the start of year 2010.

    The good news of providing a deposit to MM dealerships is their promise that they will not charge you more that the vehicle invoice. Even one dealer told me that he will charge me $500 below invoice.
  • rcpaxrcpax Posts: 580
    MItsubishi NA says it's November. More pictures of this new redesign at: http://paxtech.blogspot.com/search/label/Outlander

    More than the facelift, the 2010 model will feature additional engine hp for the same amount of displacement as previous model years.it will also feature idle neutral logic, and most importantly S-AWC.
  • and it will available around Oct 13, after the National day break.

    really wanna see it in Canada and try SAWC
  • 2010 Mitsubishi Outlander launch starts with Australia

    The new Outlander will be available for sale in Australia from the 29th of September. The one getting launched is the road going version of the Outlander GT unveiled at the New York International Auto Show this April.

    Soem reliable date for the US?
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,576

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  • cool.

    Slalom (mph): 66.2 is incredible!

    MT data:
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  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,576
    Another comparo - the new 2010 X5 M comes in at 63.5.

    The BMW X6 M comes in at 68.6 mph.

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  • It appears the new Outlander is more agile then most of SUVs and even Mercedes C Class car:

    Edmunds IL slalom test:

    BMW X6 M: 68.6
    Outlander GT: 66.2
    Mercedes C: 65.8
    RDX: 65.7
    Cayenne Turbo X: 65.2
    BMW X3: 64.4
    Outlander XLS:63.9
    BMW X5 M 63.5
    MDX: 62.6
    LR2: 62
    Audi Q5: 61.9
    RAV4 LTD: 61.6
    MB GLK: 61.3
    Forester 2.5XT: 60.3
    Murano: 59.2
    MB ML350: 57.5
    Lincoln MKX: 57.3

    Note, that the X6 M on the top of the list costs $95K
  • batman47batman47 Posts: 606
    This photo shows the steering wheel for the 2010 Outlander models in the USA:

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  • batman47batman47 Posts: 606
    This photo shows the steering wheel for the 2010 Outlander models in the Protoptype and 2010 Outlanders sold in the Australia market:

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