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Chrysler PT Cruiser (2005 and earlier)

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  • tmundartmundar Posts: 70
    I suggest you reread the message. The symptoms that he is describing were on a Ford that he had. The only thing he says about the PT is that he "heard that the PT engine crank binds and won't rev up properly."

    I am not sure where he is getting that Mistubishi engines would be better. All Hyundais older than 5 or 6 years had Mitsubishi engines, and we all know how reliable those Hyundais were (I think Hyundai started manufacturing their own engines in 1996).

    Tom
  • illini4illini4 Posts: 140
    I don't think either shellymeister2 or I misread anything. After the quote you cited, tomj5 wrote "I had a Ford like that", clearly implying the alleged problem with the two vehicles was the same.
  • jasdmwjasdmw Posts: 118
    Just took a PT Cruiser for a test drive. Was a Voyager owner until March when I bought a Sienna. Guess Chrysler still has my address! Sent me a $50.00 cupon to test drive a new Caravan. Always could use 50 bucks, so down to the dealer I trundle. Sales guy doesn't care what I drive, not his nickle. So I select the PT to see what the craze is about. Only drove it for about 10 minutes, so can't offer a whole lot. But...

    Well, not to my surprise (as an ex and never to be again Chrysler owner), the thing is not very impressive. Very noisy engine! Seats are Ok, but felt very cramped. Owned a VW Golf TDI last year so I know what a small car can be like, but this thing feels very cramped in the drivers seat. Door closed on my kneecap. Can't see out the windshield, it's roof line is too low. Cost of Cool shape I guess. No doubt, it has an interesting look about it. But as has been said many times, if only Chrysler could build a car (or van) as well as Toyota, they'd kill the market.

    Now, where's my 50 bucks!
  • Sorry, my bad. :)

    The written word can certainly be misunderstood. Looks like I misread your posts then. :) When I read your (illini4) post, it read like you thought that the symptoms had occurred on a PT Cruiser ("The assertion that a typical PT Cruiser has a scoured crankshaft is preposterous."). In shellymeister2's post, "No PT Cruiser on the planet has the problem you have alluded to...", I took "the problem" to mean the symptoms he described for the Ford instead of "the PT engine crank binds and won't rev up properly."

    After reading your response, and rereading the messages, I see that I made some incorrect assumptions when I read them originally. Sorry. :)

    Tom
  • illini4illini4 Posts: 140
    Thanks for responding -you're forgiven!
  • crkeehncrkeehn Posts: 513
    You must have driven a different kind of PT Cruiser. I am the proud owner (not driver, my wife won't let me drive it) of a 2002 Touring Edition. I am 6'3" and have ample room, both front and back seat. The seats are firm but are very comfortable on trips. I was surprised how comfortable they are after a period of hours.

    The engine is a bit noisy under accelleration, but the car cruises very quietly. It also has a very flexible interior and provides a tremendous amount of space for such a small car.

    The controls are a bit eccentric and take getting used to, but do fall readily to hand. I will say that Chrysler did listen to the comments of the early buyers. Two of the big complaints of about the 2001 model year were the lack of a passenger seat armrest and the rear window controls. For 2002 an armrest was added to the passenger seat and a set of rear window controls was added to the front console, a second set still remains at the back of the floor console.

    I'm sorry that you didn't like the car,
  • illini4illini4 Posts: 140
    The 2001 has rear window controls just below the front window controls also - at least mine does (Jun 01 build). I agree with your other comments, I find the Curiser to be roomy and the engine is very quiet at high way speeds. It is a bit noisy at idle and under acceleration.
  • crkeehncrkeehn Posts: 513
    There are apparently three versions of the PT Cruiser floating around now. It first came out in 2000 as a 2001. Midway through the extended model year, they came out with a later 2001, what the differences were, I can't tell; however the window switch may be one. All the reviews seem to be based on the early 2001 models and all comment on the odd window controls, the front windows on the dash, the rear windows on the rear of the console.

    All things said, I love my 2002 Touring, I'm sure I would love it more if my wife would let me drive it. :-D
  • crkeehncrkeehn Posts: 513
    I dropped by my local Chrysler Dealer yesterday, they have a 2001 on the lot that someone had apparently ordered and then didn't complete the transaction (when I first saw the car it had a new car sticker with the notation "made expressly for.." ) In any event the car is still there, sans sticker. It is apparently an early model 2001, the only window controls on the dash are for the front. You have two large switches flanking the rear window lockout switch, rather than the four smaller switches flanking the lockout switch. Forgive my repeating that but it's the first time that I can truly say that I have looked at the dashboard of a 2001.

    That said, I love my Inferno Red Touring Edition. I suspect I would love it more if my wife would let me drive it.
  • My hubby is a mechanic at a local beer distributor. This company has 4 2001 PT Cruisers, bought brand new, ranging in mileage from 25,000 to 36,000 miles. Just this week here are two discoveries: All 4 needed new front brake jobs. One was so bad it had to have the rotors replaced. Granted these are driven by salesmen, some of them fairly young and in all kinds of traffic. He was not too concerned about this being "early" for brakes due to the factors involved. But the second thing is bothering him. The lower A-frame bushings are tearing. If this is continues, it will cause severe toe-out (of one or possibly both tires depending on condition of bushing) and could cause loss of vehicle control. When he found the first, he called the other three in to check them. Same thing. When they took it to a local Chrysler dealer for repair (still under warranty), the service manager had never seen or heard of this before. We don't know if the Service dept will report this or not; don't know if this is a common problem or not. Checked AllData.com and no mention of this in TSBs or recalls. Am considering contacting DOT Safety and have them investigate as well as notifying D-C ourselves.

    For the record, we do not own a PT, but was trying to find out if anyone else has seen this. And if not, to let you all know that this needs to be checked on your own vehicles just to be on the safe side.

    Sue
  • i just rented a pt cruiser for two days on the hawaiian island of maui. it was a fully loaded limited edition with a sunroof, chrome wheels and power everything. i was expecting a lot after reading the reviews and have come to the conclusion that they are all true. if i didn't have the itch for a sports car then i would probably buy one. it's a real head turner, it's comfortable, the fit and finish is really good for a car in it's price range, the sound system sounds nice and it has plenty of pick up although you wont confuse it for a camaro or wrx. i drove it to the top of haleakala (a dormant volcano)which goes from sea level to just over 10,000 feet in under 40 miles. it had no trouble going up the steep switchbacks. real cool car.
  • teoteo Posts: 2,508
    Consumer Reports highly recommends the PT Cruiser. First year reliability has been "MUCH BETTER THAN AVERAGE". The PT Cruiser is, without a doubt, one of the highest quality, if not the best reliability, products to ever come out of DCX in many years.

    Resale value appears to be in "Toyota/Honda" territory according to CR.

    Autoweek magazine just finished a long term review on the PT Cruiser and the car got high marks for quality and reliability which is unheard on a DCX product.

    Congratulations, PT Cruiser owners, you have one of the best cars out there...
  • revkarevka Posts: 1,750
    Thanks for the news! ;-)

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  • crkeehncrkeehn Posts: 513
    I just caught the CR frequency of Repair results myself. I think it's the first time I have ever seen a listing with ALL red circles.

    All the early car reviews commented on how tightly the car seemed put together. That was also my impression based on 1.5 months of ownership. It's good to see that that initial impression is being upheld, a year down the road.
  • msu1msu1 Posts: 6
    I was at a car show and they had a PT DELIVERY.
    does anyone know when or if it will be available?
    MSU
  • revkarevka Posts: 1,750
    From Edmunds' Long Term Road tests, here's their November review: 2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser. Anyone else got some notes to share...? Thanks for your participation. ;-)

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  • crkeehncrkeehn Posts: 513
    I can't attest to the long term condition of my 2002 touring edition as we only have 4.5K miles on it so far. I am impressed how easy it is to rack up the mileage on the car, I am also impressed how solid the structure of the car feels, it gives the feeling of quality.

    When I first drove the car (It is primarily my wifes car) I was bothered by two things. The first was reflections off the trim panel covering the passenger air bag, passing trees would reflect off the shiny panel and I would see movement out of my peripheral vision. I have gotten used to that. I was also troubled by a rattling sound from the passenger compartment. I discovered the source and Chrysler had nothing to do with it. My childs booster seat was rattling slightly when he wasn't riding in it.

    Early reviews focused on two complaints, the lack of a passenger armrest and the odd placement of the rear window controls. By 2002 both were corrected with a duplicate set of rear window controls placed on the dash and the addition of a passenger armrest.
  • big_guybig_guy Posts: 372
    I guess the reviewers of the early PT had never driven a Suzuki Sidekick. I had a '93 Suzuki Sidekick JLX and it also had the rear window controls on the center console betweem the fron seats. I actually quite liked it because I could easily reach down and open or close the rear windows without taking my eyes off the road. To each his own I guess . . .
  • crkeehncrkeehn Posts: 513
    The rear window controls are at the back end of the console, so they are actually behind the front seats. The driver would have to reach behind him and locate the switches by feel to open or close a rear window. The later 2001/2002 have a duplicate rear window control on the dash console, so that the rear passengers can open their windows using the rear control, the driver or front passenger can do so from the front console.
  • Hi,

    My interest is piqued in the PT Cruiser. Fitzgerald's (www.fitzmall.com) seems to have several on sale up to $300 below invoice. I am sort of curious as to how these cars can go from selling well over MSRP earlier in the year to under invoice now. Is it the case of production finally catching up with demand? Has the novelty worn off? Or is there some other story? By the way, the particular one I am looking at is a 5-speed 2002 basic model with power package for around $17K.

    Would appreciate any comments.
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