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2010 Honda Accord

nowakj66nowakj66 Posts: 709
I like the Accord EX v6 Sedan with NAV but am frustrated that the model lacks the USB iPod interface found in the Pilot Touring (or CIvic or Fit for that matter!).

Anyone know if the USB iPod interface will be added in 2010 to the Accord Sedan?


  • jcart797jcart797 Posts: 1
    Here is what I have been quoted in the Twin Cities Area:

    2009 - Accord Sedan EX-L Manual: $23,283.00 (MSRP $26,273) Luther Honda

    2009 - Accord Sedan EX-L V6 Auto: $25,584 (MSRP: $29,225) Buerkle Honda

    2009 - Accord Sedan EX-L 4cyl Auto: $23,505 (MSRP: $27,075) Buerkle Honda

    There are some good deals to be had!! I think I'm going to by the EX-L 4cyl manual, cant wait!
  • vrmvrm Posts: 303
    Anyone have any info regarding the all-new 2010 Honda Crossover?.
    Will this be on dealer lots in September?

    07/07/2009 - Torrance, CA - An all-new crossover vehicle based on the award-winning Honda Accord will go on-sale in the fall of 2009 as the "Accord Crosstour," American Honda Motor Co., Inc., announced today. This new addition to the Honda lineup will be sold as a 2010 model. Additional information will be announced later in the year.
  • Where is the Honda Crosstour thread?

    Surely I must be overlooking it.
  • igozoomzoomigozoomzoom Waleska, GeorgiaPosts: 790
    Honda has always offered more manual transmission versions of the Accord (trim levels) than any competing models, but it looks as though that may be coming to an end! ;(

    The following trim levels that were available with a manual transmission in 2009 are automatic-only for 2010-

    Accord Sedan- LX-P, EX-L, EX-L Navi
    Accord Coupe- EX-L and EX-L Navi

    And for the record-

    Civic Coupe & Sedan- EX Navi, EX-L, EX-L Navi
    Fit- Sport Navi

    With the exception of the Accord Coupe EX-L V6 & EX-L V6 Navi, you can no longer get a manual-shift Honda with leather seats! And with exception of the Accord Coupe EX-L V6 Navi & Civic Si Navi, you can't get Navigation with manual transmission on any other models!??
  • Hi, my wife just leased an Accord EX-L V6 and I notice it is pretty noisy on the highway. The dealer told her to come in and pay $100 for some noise dampening they put on it as an extra. Is this a ruse or does after market noise dampening work?
  • billpaulbillpaul Posts: 103
    We are seeing the gradual disappearance of MTs on Accord sedans.

    Currently, a MT is available on the 4 cylinder Accord EX-L sedan even with Navi, but it must be ordered. The Honda website does not indicate this option, but the Accord brochure does, as do some online pricing/buying services. I am currently ordering a 5-speed 4 cylinder MT EX-L with Navi. I have been assured by two dealers that this can be done.

    I have been buying Accords with MTs since 1982. Honda has been one of the few manufacturers of family cars that offer a well-optioned sedan with MT, but this is changing. I will have to wait up to 12 weeks for delivery. This delay is enough to prevent a lot of MT sales since folks often buy cars because their old one has failed, and they need a new one in short order. A lot of other manufacturers also require that the MT be ordered. I think that falling MT sales is partly caused by the long delivery delay.

    My 4 cylinder MT Accord EX sedans have been fun drive, with better acceleration and fuel efficiency than the equivalent automatic transmission equipped cars. In addition, the MTs have been more reliable, cost less to purchase, and require less maintenance. In this era in which higher fuel efficiency is a priority, I find the demise of the MT puzzling. Note that Consumer Reports got 34 mpg with the MT LX-P vs. 28 mpg with automatic LX-P on their 150 mile road trip, and lists a MT cruising range of 590 miles vs. 485 miles for the automatic.

    This may be the last year to buy a MT EX-L sedan with Navi. Get them while you can.
  • hlwhlw Posts: 2
    I have a 2010 Honda accord EX V6 AT. I stand by my car, if someone shifts the gear from park to reverse or drive in the car, I can hear clicking sound, but the person in the car can not. Is that normal? Thanks.
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    Honda automatic transmissions have always been this way. You can easily hear the shift action. The driver can hear it too, if the window is down. It's easier to hear outside the car. This is normal.
  • hlwhlw Posts: 2
    Thanks for elroy5's replying. Besides the clicking sound, there is other problem on my 2010 Honda. The transmission seems not smooth when the car is on low speed driving (around 25 mph), feel like someone is pushing the car on the back and then suddenly stop pushing. Should I have the car checked or that is normal for Honda? Thanks.
  • I own a V6 EX-L and I too have noticed some unusual downshifting with the transmission. It is my understanding that is has to do with the VCM system and is normal. My experience has been that when slowing down to a stop, the last downshift seems very obvious. I can tell when it happens. I was also told that the electronic brake distribution system can affect the way the transmission downshifts when the car is slowing down. Will wait and see.
  • rcummelinrcummelin Posts: 178
    Honda transmissions have been downshifting as you described for at least FIVE years that I'm aware of. Our 2005 and 2008 Odysseys both did it, and our 2008 Ridgeline does it too. It's part of how Hondas work, so you may as weel get used to it.
  • The 2009 Accord EX and above had BOTH an "ambient" light that was located in the overhead console, AND a glovebox light. Both lights are totally missing from all 2010 Accords. Check for yourself.

    I called Honda Customer Relations (1-800-999-1009) to complain and after I spoke my piece, I was told: "Your suggestion will be sent to Engineering where it may be considered as an improvement."

    I was absolutely FURIOUS. Did Honda publish a list of everything they removed as part of the cost-cutting? I think NOT! So now my request to have things replaced that were removed is a "suggestion for improvement?" Do they think we are all idiots? Yeah, obviously, but I'm not finished with this yet, as I have also lodged a complaint at the dealer, which will likely be ignored.

    Stay tuned.....
  • Did Honda publish a list of everything they removed as part of the cost-cutting?

    Well, sort of, yes they did. The 2010 brochure doesn't mention the ambient and glove box light. Yes I agree, it stinks when they drop things you expect in your Honda, but I don't see any recourse you have to get Honda to add the lights.

    Another thing I find that also stinks is the little disclaimer they print in the brocures. It says something like: "changes can be made at any time without notice" and it happened to me. I purchased a Toyota truck years ago, and the truck didn't come with cloth visors as shown in the brochure for my model's trim level. Well the dealer quickly pointed out the disclaimer in the brochure. The truck supposedly was to have a "heavy duty starter, battery and wiper motor" in their cold weather package, well I had no way of verifying the truck had any of the upgrades.

  • Maybe we come from different cultures, but where I come from, omitting something is definitely NOT the same as clearly stating that something had been removed. I believe this is frequently called "The sin of omission" and it should not be considered as a good way to do business. It usually results in unhappy customers. DOH!

    Since I did not have a 2008 or 2009 brochure to compare to the 2010 brochure, I had no means of determining what had been listed or what had been removed. If you have both, berhaps you could do a line-by-line comparison and see if anything else has been removed. Thanks in advance.
  • tallman1tallman1 Posts: 1,874
    First of all, I'm not suggesting that getting rid of something is a good thing but do you really think that any company is going to list items that they delete when they offer a new model?

    If you were in charge of a business, would you offer that info? Think of it:

    --Last year's HD TV model offered you 3 HDMI jacks but this year we only put in two.

    --Our vacuum used to have a 20 foot cord but we now have a 15 foot cord so that we could save money.

    --This year, our models have thinner plastic than in earlier versions.

    I understand that you are frustrated but expecting Honda (or any other company) to list things they dropped just isn't going to happen. I certainly wouldn't expect it.
  • To each his own, but how can you possibly get furious over the lack of "ambient" lighting and a glove box light???

    If you had known about it prior to purchase, would you have purchased some other vehicle?

    Those two things are not the reason I bought a Honda Accord. They weren't even on my list. As a matter of fact, I don't recall anyone ever saying those two features were high on their list.

    IMHO, if Honda had to do some cost-cutting, I think they got rid of the right features. Just my $.02. :shades:
  • No, no, no. I was furious over the totally idiotic response I received from the Honda spokesperson when I complained. The missing lights are more of an irritant, except that my wife has failing eyesight, and now she will have to use a flashlight to see what's in the glove box at night. The map light is too dim at that distance.

    If the cost-cutting items had been clearly listed by Honda, I would most likely not have an issue as then I would have known before my purchase. So, YES, I may have considered other cars due to the reason I mentioned above.

    Look, everyone has something that "pushes their buttons" and dishonesty pushes mine. Now, you may not feel that Honda has been dishonest by not divulging what they removed. That's your choice. Forgive me if I disagree. I feel that's it is this type of thinking that has been and may continue to be the downfall of American industry, meaning that eventually all the lies and cover-ups come home to roost. Just look at what is happening to Toyota right now. Not good. Not good at all.

    Just tell the truth - that's all I'm asking.
  • tallman1tallman1 Posts: 1,874
    I'm really trying hard to understand... are you saying that the dishonesty is what they told you on the phone or that the dishonesty is because they didn't list a feature that was on a previous version of the Accord but not on the current model? If it is the latter, I'm not sure I understand how that is dishonest.

    I would be angry if the brochure or salesperson said that there was something on the car that wasn't, but I'm not sure you can say it is dishonest when they don't list it in the first place.

    In 06 and 07, the Accord had LED tail lights but they dropped them in 08 (A mistake, IMHO). Should they have listed that somewhere in a brochure?

    Do you have an example of a car company that listed what they dropped from a previous model? Or any other product, for that matter?? :confuse:
  • As I said, I don't expect that everyone will agree with me. This is a personal thing, as my expectation is that when features are removed, that fact should be divulged. If this subterfuge doesn't bother you, maybe it should. It isn't like they cut the price (in fact, they raised it), they're just making more money and giving the customer less. Hey, maybe that's simply American business these days.

    The Honda person on the phone claimed to be completely ignorant of the cost-cutting. Perhaps so, but was still an idiot doing nothing more than reading from a script. At least I wasn't speaking to someone on the other side of the world with a rudimentary command of the english language.

    My real fear is not that features have been removed that I noticed, it's what I can't see that scares me. Have you been watching the news coverage of Toyota? The Honda engineers are drinking the same Kool-Aid, IMHO.

    For an example, Yes I have one. Sort of. Toyota made a big deal announcing they were "de-contenting" their vehicles back in the mid-1990s. They went on to claim that they had removed 200 pounds of weight from their pickup by doing so. They even stated where some of the savings had come from. Anyway, the 1994 pickup was a MUCH better truck than the 1995 decontented Tacoma replacement, which was a disaster and took several years to straighten out. The 1996 Camry was also a much better car than the 1997 decontented replacement. But, that's all old history.

    "Please sir, may I have some more?" Uh, no thanks.
  • I didn't discover this myself. It was on another Honda forum.

    On page 118 of the 2010 Accord Owner's Manual, there's a small diagram showing the "ambient light", with the statement that it is a courtesy light that comes on when the parking lights are on.

    Well, well, well. Looks like the cost-cutting didn't include removing the reference in the Owner's Manual. Funny thing. There's no reference to a Glove Box light. Two different engineers? One doing a thorough job, one not?

    Now I can take the Owner's Manual to my dealer and say "Where's the one in MY car?" Or, I can bite the bullet and order a switch assembly from a 2009 for $32 that has the light in it. I'll try the dealer first. More fun!!! Hey, I'm retired. This junk makes life a bit more interesting & fun.
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