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2011 Toyota Sienna

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  • ericd12ericd12 Posts: 7
    edited May 2010
    Last month we noticed water in the rear storage well shortly after taking delivery of the van - we had been driving it in the rain. We took the car back for service the first time with only 140 miles on it! (msg #333 in this forum). After one and a half weeks we get the car back and the service department claims they corrected a seal. A couple weeks later it rains again and water again pools in the rear well. We are now waiting for a new replacement for our van. Wow - Toyota quality is not what it used to be!
  • nobonobo Posts: 305
    At least it sounds like you are getting a new van to replace the leaker.

    The two 2011 Siennas I test drove also did not give me warm and fuzzies about the build quality.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I'd take a pitcher of water and pour it over the hatch before I accepted delivery. ;)

    A new van seems like a satisfactory resolution, though. Wonder what they will do with yours? Tear it apart for quality control inspections, hopefully.
  • DLuDLu Posts: 15
    perhaps you are talking about the secondary little info screen sitting high up top? that's the std screen for the rear-view camera and, yes, it's tiny. in those equipped with navi, the tiny upper screen is for MPG info, climate control status, etc. rearview camera moves down to the nav screen (and it is a good size).

    personally, I hate the navi system. it is cumbersome to use compared to our Garmi Nuvi, for example. takes longer to enter destinations, voice prompts are poorly-timed (warnings are usually too early). Too bad the Limited usually gets stuck with that "option" unless you order one ... those who are thinking about getting one, try it out first! dang expensive option to waste your money on if you don't like it.
  • DLuDLu Posts: 15
    I tend to agree with you. I think the body panel gaps are a mile wide, the cheap plastic and fake wood are an insult, etc etc. Unfortunately I wanted a minivan, and they are the only ones offering AWD. Don't get me wrong, I don't regret getting this particular vehicle because it gets the job done. However, Toyota is definitely slipping.
  • yatesjoyatesjo Posts: 186
    edited May 2010
    I had my first up close look at a 2011 Sienna today... and was not impressed. A family at church just got one loaded up with almost every option on the list- AWD limited with navi, entertainment, lazyboy seats. The faux wood trip looks very faux and the dash was awful to the touch- hard, rough textured plastic on both in front and on top. Things like storage cubbies in the door rests were gone too. I felt no jealousy as I climbed into my 2008.
  • berriberri Posts: 4,141
    I couldn't get past the cheap, shiny plastic - kind of like the Venza. I wonder if the 2011 Ody will go the cheapo route too? Maybe they're emulating Chrysler!
  • tsu670tsu670 Posts: 293
    "...Maybe they're emulating Chrysler! "

    It's been a while. Just stopped by to see how everyone is doing. Regarding Chrysler, we've had our 2010 T&C Limited for two months and absolutely love it. Zero defects (so far!). I had scratched the T&C off my shopping list after reading horrible reviews of the 2008 models, but that was then and this is now. After seeing the new Sienna we decided to take a look at Chrysler after all.

    The probematic '08 Chrysler (Caravan and T&C) was the first year model of their 5th generation. The '10 Sienna is the first year model of their 3rd generation. It isn't surprising there are some quality issues. I imagine the Sienna problems will be worked out by the 2011 model year.
  • minimommyminimommy Posts: 13
    Salesman said V6 engine and 6 speed transmission in 2011 Sienna are new to Sienna but not new -- they've been in other Toyotas for a while. Am nervous to jump into new model if engine/tranny are not tested. Am debating whether to jump from Honda Odyssey with the probs they have had w/tranny so 2010 Ody probably out and they'll have new tranny in 2011 Ody. Trying to pick the more tested of the 2 (2011 Sienna vs 2011 Ody)... and Toyota more willing to "deal" now, maybe more so as 2011 Ody debut comes closer. Any info on whether 2011 Sienna engine/tranny have been reliable in past? I know Toyota having troubles now, but I'm hoping it will only make them more responsive and responsible in future. Thank you.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    v1.0 Syndrome.

    I've been lucky. My first-year cars have been fine, better than expected actually. :shades:
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    edited May 2010
    The 2GR V6 has been in the Sienna since 2007, so it's not even new to this model.

    The U660E - 6 speed has been used in the Camry V6 and other models so Toyota has made approximately 11 billion of those.

    It replaces the U151E 5 speed in the outgoing Sienna model.

    Ody's trans was improved for MY2007, I think, but per Consumer Reports Sienna was still more reliable.

    Good luck with whatever you purchase. :shades:
  • DLuDLu Posts: 15
    I agree -- the little things are not necessarily great for the first year, but major components are going to be solid. Waiting 2 more years will definitely be smart, but you can't find 2010 Siennas around New England anymore; if you want an AWD minivan, this is it. :)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    edited May 2010
    Toyota's 'Swagger Wagon' scores high on weekly viral media chart


    NEW YORK -- Two significant new video campaigns battled it out for the top slot on Advertising Age's weekly viral video chart: Google's "Chrome Speed Tests" and Toyota's "Swagger Wagon."

    Both got some blog coverage last week; Google because its Chrome browser is taking share in the web browser market from Firefox and Microsoft's Internet Explorer; and Toyota because, well, since when do you use YouTube to sell a minivan? Each video gathered a bit more than 1.8 million views last week.


    Full Story:

    Read more: http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100513/RETAIL03/100519924/1- - 018#ixzz0nuGa7pp3

    And in case anyone's been living in a turtle shell all month:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql-N3F1FhW4

    Straight ownin' bake sales
    With my cupcake skillz


    :D
  • How is the replacement van? Just wondering if the new van is also leaking. We got one this past weekend and I tempted to pour some water on it. :D
  • nobonobo Posts: 305
    Do you want your new van to leak, so Toyota will take it back?
  • holleholle Posts: 10
    Can anyone tell me how you operate the 2011 sienna limited DVD while in motion? i currently own the 08 model and the lack of controls for the adults is beyond frustrating.
    I see that the DVD unit has been moved to the front (where it should be)..and i read that you can control (play, stop, pause..etc) the DVD from the touch screen navigation. but is this true when the van is in MOTION and driving? my 08 model can only use these touch screen controls if the parking brake is on. Thanks!!
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Had an hour to kill while my wife was getting a pedicure, so I checked out another 2011. Hadn't seen it since the Auto Show circuit back in January, and those were probably pre-production anyway.

    Dislikes:
    * even the brochure was cost-cut
    * some soft touch materials are gone
    * 8th seat is more Ody than 04-10 Sienna

    Likes:
    * backup cam on LE
    * express up/down windows on all 4 (!)
    * 17"s on LE model
    * 3 zone climate control
    * low profile wiper blades

    The paper used for the new brochure is thin, looks disposable. Funny since makes like Subaru have been using higher quality brochures recently, so that stood out. Who cares, I suppose.

    The dash looks good but feels hard. The upper glove box is just cheap. You see the hollow plastic hinges and can feel and even hear the cheapness.

    I sat in the 8th seat, and it's really a bridge, like the one in the Ody. A little wider, perhaps, but not a place I'd want to spend more than a short ride in. I saw the cup holders in the base that stays behind even when you remove it, but that would not bother me at all because the seats slide forward and leave a huge opening for 3rd row access. If you have little kids in safety seats that may be a hassle, but by the time you're in booster seats it won't matter any more.

    So that's the bad. Now the good.

    Base wheels on the LE are nice 17"s. I didn't drive it but I'm sure that'll do better than the mushy 65 series tires on 16"s on my 2007 LE.

    All 4 power windows have one-touch up and down, all 4! I expect that on an Audi, perhaps, but certainly not on a Sienna LE. Pleasant surprise.

    Same for a backup cam while we're at it. And 3 zone climate control.

    Finally, they went to low-profile wipers. Minor touch, but they look nicely streamlined and probably help reduce noise and drag.

    All in all, I'd really miss the 8th seat, but other than that, I'd have to say they made more improvements than they had cost-cutting measures.
  • nobonobo Posts: 305
    Your assessment of the 2011 Sienna interior is same as those that started complaining when the Venza was introduced. It seems like Toyota is going backward on interior quality appointments.

    It is not the cup holders that remain after the 8th seat is removed that bother me. It is the seat bases that remain after you remove the second row of seats. (At this time the cup holders come out with one of the two seats) These bases are just plain in the way if you need all the cargo room in the van behind the front seats.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I briefly looked at a Venza, too. The Venza still has some padded surfaces, the dash material is better for instance.

    They also had a Camry Hybrid in the showroom, and it had a nicely padded dash, best among the three of them, actually.

    I wonder if Honda will follow suit, i.e. cost cutting on the materials.

    At least Toyota added content to offset that.

    I did not remove the seats completely, so I didn't notice the seat bases.
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