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Toyota Celica (Hatchbacks / All Years)

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  • guitarzanguitarzan Posts: 632
    I do trust you! I felt 10,000 was kind of a magic loosening thing for my 1.8L Integra.

    Dogone it if not having a job keeps my oil clean and only 2,000 miles on my baby :(
  • sergeissergeis Posts: 133
    I just had a long trip and was impressed by the changes in mpg since last year.
    Last summer, my GT auto was only 1/2 yrs. old, and had <10K miles on it. The city mpg was running about 24-26, and I could get only 34-35 mpg on interstate. I was really disappointed, because if it would be as efficient as my Grand Marquis it should give me ~27/40 mpg for city/highway (recalculated for its power/weight/drag coef).
    This summer I have 15Kmiles on engine, and things have changed. I now get 28-30 mpg in city, and yesterday I measured 39+ mpg on interstate, with AC off, made 330 miles with 8.4 gallons of regular. First hour I had to drive at 45-65 mph as there were a lot of construction (Chicago area), and then I had steady 74 mph for the rest of my trip.
  • desert5desert5 Posts: 12
    I'm about to order a GT and I don't want remote entry or security system, but I DO want power windows and doors. Question: is it true, that these are inter- connected so I can't have one without the other, or can I insist on wanting it my way?
  • bcloughbclough Posts: 97
    I have a GT with no remote entry, but I do have power windows and doors. So it can be done.

    Brenda
  • hbarkhbark Posts: 26
    I also ordered my GT with the power package (which includes power windows, doors, cruise), but without the remote entry and alarm.

    What you may be thinking of is, you can't order the keyless remote entry without the alarm, you have to get both together. Which is why I didn't order it -- I wanted the keyless entry, but not the alarm. So I got one installed afterwards, just the keyless entry.
  • bcloughbclough Posts: 97
    How much did that run you, hbark? I'm toying with the idea myself.

    Brenda
  • desert5desert5 Posts: 12
    I knew I was right - that salesman is trying to get me to take a vehicle out of his fleet, instead of ordering my GT from Japan as I told him to. <<P>> I also asked him to get my antenna power-wired to my radio and he said that "doesn't exist" - betcha he's lying about that too, right?
  • guitarzanguitarzan Posts: 632
    No power antenna.

    On my Integra, my best friend and I bought a kit from Sears for $35 or so...we wired a brand new power antenna to the radio. Amazing how simple it was. The worst part was tucking the wire underneath the plastic running alongside the interior, and past the driver.
  • marktestmarktest Posts: 43
    Some of the mileage figures talked about seem amazing or questionable. Grand Marquis' with 28 mpg on the highway, my brother's 2001 Crown Vic gets 21 highway. Celica GTS' getting high 20's - is that on the highway? My GTS Auto only gets 24 around town, 28 highway.

    I regret not getting the GT for the better mileage and 20% lower fuel cost, but some of the figures stated here seem to rival the Toyota Echo. I actually wish I purchased the Solara - much better ride, comfortable and quiet, and the 4 cyl Solara is just as quick as the Celica GTS auto, the 6 cyl must easily exceed the GTS auto, probably the 6 speed. Best of all, the 4 cyl Solara gets about the same mileage as the GTS auto and costs less (until the convertible roof is added).
  • guitarzanguitarzan Posts: 632
    My driving is mixed, with a lot of freeway right now. I have a 6-speed, and it is rated at 32 highway versus 30 for the automatic, keep in mind. I hope to get into the 30's on the freeway after some time, but we'll see!
  • kwrohrerkwrohrer Posts: 11
    Brenda, I cheapoed out and just got the $120 model at Best Buy, plus they charged me about $20 in parts. Installation was included with the price of the unit, but took several hours. I'm sure if you go to a more specialized place they'll charge more, just for the labor.

    It works okay, but the guy didn't install the feature that lets you unlock just the driver door or all doors like using the key in the driver's side door does. Also, if you lock the doors with the power lock button, the remote doesn't unlock them in that case (though that may be an installation goof-up).

    Of course he didn't make the "trunk" button do anything because there is no trunk popper to activate--which was the main reason I got the thing in the first place.
  • kwrohrerkwrohrer Posts: 11
    marktest: I have a GTS auto, with ~33k miles on it. I usually get the "low fuel" light with 350 miles on the trip odometer, and room for 12.5 gallons in the tank at that point without topping off. That gives me ~28 MPG for driving which is mostly Chicagoland expressway commute--i.e. not so express half the time.

    As for 20% lower fuel cost, it's only 20 cents a gallon difference out here, and with the cheap stuff costing $1.30 to $1.80 (depending on how far the price is jacked up) that's not 20%. But I too probably should've gotten the GT, since I don't push the engine hard enough to benefit from the extra power very often.

    My advice: drive a lesser car from time to time so you can appreciate the Celica better. I thought my acceleration from a stop was poor, until I realized how much better it does shifting at 5000 RPMs compared to flooring my wife's 4 cylinder Contour...

    I test drove a Solara, liked it much better than the Accord coupe, but had already discarded it in favor of a 2000 Maxima SE when the first Celicas became available. The Celica styling fit me much better, and it really is a different driving experience from the Solara and even the Maxima, yet wasn't as rev-happy as the "all I wanna do is engine brake" Prelude I tried.

    Plus it's my third silver hatchback (83? Celica, 90 Probe, 00 Celica).
  • sergeissergeis Posts: 133
    I don't get 28 mpg on Grand Marquis '95. But I get steady 26+. And these are long drives, ~1000 miles one way. Its specs say 25 mpg. Though last trip this spring I had only 24+. I don't know why. May be because I am due transmission fluid and fuel filter change, plus it turned out that I have not changed air filter for a year or even more, it was very dirty. My friend has Crown Vic with handling package and gets only 24. But I heard that this package takes a couple of mpg's away. His car specs actually list 24 mpg for highway.
    The 21 mpg your brother gets look like for the older model CV (<92), I used to drive CV '81, and I had 20-21 mpg (highway) with that ship until it was 16 yrs. old. I guess there is something wrong with your brother's CV, or it is not just highway drive. It is questionable if low mpg is considered as something to be fixed under warranty. They always add some fine-print text. For example, my Celica's sticker shows huge number 34 mpg for highway, and then below there is fine print saying that this car gets in average 30-40 mpg on highway (or something like that). So that you could not complain if it is below 34.

    As for the GT mpg - I was getting low numbers (~24-26/34-35 mpg) until this summer when I got to ~15Kmiles. I always calculate city mpg when refueling, and now it is always 28-30. The high way mpg is based only on one 330 miles trip, so I would say it is 39, give a take a mile or two. You must, of course, take into account that city mpg is hard to compare as it depends heavily on the number of stops per mile and your average speed.
    Friend of mine just got a brand new Echo and he gets 38 mpg highway. I guess next year he will get >40.
  • bcloughbclough Posts: 97
    Thanks, kwrohrer. I have an ad here from a car stereo firm, offering keyless entry for $99 installed -- I may try it out!

    Brenda
  • phaedrysphaedrys Posts: 37
    is there any word on what (if anything) is going to be changed for the 2002 model year? i was mainly wondering if the 6 speed in the gts is being changed. badtoy....any idea?
  • boomn29boomn29 Posts: 189
    I have about 2k miles on my GTS. I usually get around 30mpg. That's a mix of interstate, city, and lots of commute!
    Anywhere from 27-32 usually.
  • I own a celica GTS. Does Anyone know what toyota recommends as far as the octane level?

    I think I can get away with regular.
  • badtoybadtoy Posts: 368
    reading your owner's manual? It will tell you what octane the car needs.

    I would imagine it takes 91, although 89 may be okay. I certainly wouldn't put 87 in it, because it has higher compression than the GT, and I run 89 in mine.
  • badtoybadtoy Posts: 368
    I rented a GTS from work for a couple of weeks, and it had "premium only" right on the gas cap. The service garage might have put it there, but it tells me that premium is the way to go.
  • jk111jk111 Posts: 125
    GT-S requires premium to get the best performance. If you use a lesser grade, the ecu will retard the timing and the performance will go down.
    It sounds like some of you guys should have gotten either a solara or accord instead. Why the change of heart? I seen a lot of GT's on the road lately. I guess a lot of people just bought it just for looks. The GT to GTS ratio is probably around 15:1 here in North Jersey. I thought about buying an Accord, but it is not as fast as the GT-S manual nor handles as well. Sure the accord is quiet, but the car serves a different purpose.
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