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Toyota Celica vs. Mitsubishi Eclipse

majid23majid23 Posts: 1
edited March 25 in Mitsubishi
I have a 2000 Toyota Celica GT. I outraced a 2000
Eclipse GT and I have an automatic trans! The guy
was shocked. I think it is stupid how people
compare cars by how they race. How often do you
race someone? Toyota is the better choice: more
reliable, better name, and faster! Challenge the
guy in the Eclipse to race you in ten years. His
car would probably be broken down already! Bottom
line: Toyota wins.
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  • SPYDER98SPYDER98 Posts: 239
    I think you just answered your own question.
    He was probably just shocked that you even tried to race him. He probably cared even less when he saw your none "S" GT badge from the rear too..
  • only1harryonly1harry Posts: 1,136
    Was the guy in the Eclipse GT really racing? An Eclipse GT should blow a Celica GT away easily and without much effort, especially an automatic one. Even a GTS auto would be humiliated by an Eclipse GT.
    It's true though that the Celica should outlast an Eclipse. If reliability is a major factor, chosing between the two is a no brainer..
  • Quote "Even a GTS auto would be humiliated by an Eclipse GT"

    I really doubt it. If you compare both cars they are near identical in specs. The Eclipse has a 200HP V6 but weighs 3120lbs. The celica has a 180HP I4 and weighs 2500lbs. I all comes down to an issue called power to weight ratio. The eclipse will take a celica off the line with the V6's Torque but won't kill it. It really will come down to who is the better driver. When the specs are that close one driver error will throw the race. I've beat and been beat by Eclipse GTs in my GT-S. Some races I was the better driver and others I was not.
  • If you're comparing GTS auto vs Eclipse GT auto, aren't you pretty much taking the 'better driver' out of the picture? Of the two, I would have to guess the Eclipse auto would win, from the simple standpoint that a 4-speed auto is a better matchup with the larger displacement, relatively low-revving V6 rather than the small displacement, peaky I4 in the GTS. Do you have an auto or 6-speed in your GTS?
  • Its all about what car is better. I was trying to decide between the New Toyota Celica and The Eclipse 2001 GS. After trying both cars, comparing quality, doing some research on the internet, comparing weight/HP, looks, and everything else. I decided for the Eclipse 2001 GS with Sportronic. The car not only looks sturdier but performs better (bigger engine, more liters, more HP)
    About racing, it has to do more with the driver than the car. After all what is the point of racing on the streets? But if I have to, I am sure I will outlast any celica on the street. :)
  • that you will outRUN any NEW Celica (stay away from Celica All-Tracs) in a heads-up race to 60 mph -- but outLAST?? Sorry, don't think so...just compare Mitsu's reliability record vs Toyota's in Consumer Reports.
  • make that "new Celica with an automatic"....
  • roadroachroadroach Posts: 131
    Read his post carefully: he has an Eclipse GS with the sportronic, not a GT. His GS (2.4liter I4) has 147hp to pull 2985lbs around (over 20 lbs/hp) while even the base Celica GT has 140 hp for 2425lbs (around 17 lbs/hp). While I agree that his torque superiority may help in a 0-60, I don't think he will be 'spanking' many Celica GT's. Woe unto him if he decides to tangle with a Celica GTS......
  • alex18talex18t Posts: 117
    my celica GT is the fastest car i've owned. it's great off the line and has great pull unless you get bogged down below 3500. my car runs as fast and usually faster than my friend's 93 z24 which has a better hp to weight ratio than the eclipse GT (if my friend knows his stuff). also the celica has superior handling. maybe im crazy but i dont think an eclipse could beat me in a drag race. certainly not an auto. but eclipses are definately a lot easier to drive fast because of their wider torque band.

    The important thing is we never criticize each other in these forums. lol
  • andonniandonni Posts: 7
    which is better anyways?
    one have more hp ..but..too much weight
    one is so so hp..but lighter...???
    can anyone tell me???
    and..wut about include prelude
    3 cars ..compare..which is better
    ( prelude SH, Celica GTS, Eclipse GT )
  • denniswadedenniswade Posts: 362
    an't nuthin to sneeze at -- especially in a 2400 lb car. But driving a hot coupe with a hyper personality like the GT-S is totally different than the new Eclipse or Prelude -- both of which are more subdued.

    All three cars are wonderful, and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them to anyone. Try all three and decide for yourself -- you can't go wrong. Just be sure to drive them enthusiastically, or you'll miss the whole point of the exercise. And if the salesman tells you to back off, find yourself another salesman and do it again!
  • andonniandonni Posts: 7
    is GSX good?
    how come ... it has kind of low overall ???

    and... in prelude sh and eclipse GT celica gt-s
    three of 3 are ok?
    dont have a really good one mah??? or the same???
  • denniswadedenniswade Posts: 362
    was a lot faster, but not nearly as well put together or reliable as the new Eclipse is expected to be. Nevertheless, it's still very popular with the street crowd -- you can crank that turbo way up there with a few bucks and really scare somebody. The back seat is useless, though, while the new Eclipse's can actually accomodate real live people.

    Between the three, I'd probably choose the Celica on the basis of style and handling -- I have one already, and I love it. But the reviews of all three cars have been glowing, and the Eclipse has more torque than the GT-S, so would probably be more relaxing (but less exhilerating) to drive. The Prelude styling is a little too laid-back for my taste, but it's an elegant car and it handles beautifully too. The Honda and TOyota are both likely to be more trouble-free than the Eclipse, but that's based on past history, not the current car, so who knows?

    Cars like these are emotional, and buying one is an emotional process. I always say, drive em all, sleep on it and buy the one you wake up thinking about. What else can I say?!!
  • pocahontaspocahontas Posts: 802
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  • denniswadedenniswade Posts: 362
    Thanks -- first time I used that!

    Coupla questions -- why is the Celica listed as a coupe, not a hatchback, and why are 0-60 times not listed? Didn't you guys test all these cars?

    Curb weights would help too, for power-to-weight ratios.
  • SPYDER98SPYDER98 Posts: 239
    Pros:
    AWD (good all season car,especially with snow tires), 200+lbs torque, good handling, easy to add hp. With as little as $1000, you can add 30-40hp.

    Cons:
    Shaky reliablility record, poor resale
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  • alex18talex18t Posts: 117
    the comparison feature doesnt "confirm or deny" any preconceptions it just states the same kind of stuff you can find on the factory web sites.
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