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Saab 9-5 Wagon

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  • dskidski Posts: 414
    The vibration your describing doesn't sound right. A suspension or balance adjustment may be in order.

    If you think there is a problem, tell your dealer that you would like to compare yours with another similar model on the lot. If there is a problem with yours, you will feel a difference between the two cars.

    Good Luck
    Drew
  • I have a 9-3 5-door that is halfway through a 4-year lease and want to upgrade to a 9-5 wagon. Has anyone done this and gotten a decent deal?
  • beer47beer47 Posts: 185
    What are some of the best negotiated prices on wagons lately? Anybody have any stories? Also, isn't something that the 2.3 4cyl has quite a bit more HP than the 3.0 6cyl! I guess the 6 isn't turbocharged. Also, It seems more people are leasing as opposed to buying. I also heard that they will negotiate the lease end buyout figure because they really don't want the car back. Any thoughts? Lease then buy might be a strategy if you get a good one.
  • I can only relay pricing on the Linear wagon. They appaerntly have tons of dealer cash. You might be able to get a Linear with prem pkg (almost 40k sticker) for under 34k.

    FyI: Just in case you're comparing: Volvo xc 2003 can be bought for under 32K during a special discount on the already cheap overseas program.

    I just went through this entire process and found great prices on both.
  • dskidski Posts: 414
    The 6 does have more hp and it is Turbo charged as well. Both have the LPT... Light Pressure Turbo's. The Aero version has a High Pressure Turbo and the highest hp for an Aero.

    You probably read the hp number for the Aero which is a 4 cylinder as well.

    Drew
  • Hi,
    I've always liked the Saab's looks and individuality, and was considering getting a wagon. A used one though. The new Saab prices here are way out of line (I live in Toronto). At least I think they are, close to and higher than some bimmers.
    I had also had reliability reservations. A firend is a Saab mechaninc and said that one of thier design flaws is the coil for each plug. It is efficient in it's job, but they all break down and are very expensive to fix. Has anyone had this problem? Are these cars the maintenance headaches I always hear about, in spite of Cr and others saying it's the best they've ever built? That's fine, but if their best is still behind the others it's not much of a leap. My wife says the Saab is the only car she's ever looked at and liked. So I'm trying to decide if the appeal of the car is just overshadowing the reality of what a bad experience actually owning one could be.
    cdndriver
  • dskidski Posts: 414
    I had the first year 9-5 with no problems to speak of aside from the rear brake rotors wearing with an outer groove. That caused the need for a rotor replacement that shouldn't have been needed.

    I did not have any other problems and replaced it this year with a new wagon.

    Drew
  • mstsscmstssc Posts: 89
    A few comments - the remaining 2002 Linears are getting good discounts here in Calgary. I have seen 5 sedans offered in Saturdays paper for $37k ($23k US) and 1 wagon for $40k ($25k US). All new with I think 2.8% lease. This is a steal IMHO! If I didn't already have one I would now. I don't think you will find a similarily equipped BMW that can touch this. Even the base model 9.5s are very well equipped and capable cars.

    Given these prices and lease/finance incentives I don't think I would go used. Also, many of us lease our Saabs due to their generally high depreciation.

    My 2001 now is 18 months old and has 27k km with only minor problems. It is as tight now as it was new. The cars are unique and certainly not perfect but I enjoy driving this car every day and it is the first time in awhile where I am not looking forward to leasing something else (and I have owned two BMWs in the past).
  • I currently own a 2000 9-5 Sedan and my lease expires in 4 months. Needless to say, I'm in serious research mode. I would like to get a wagon this time around and the choices available right now are mind boggling. It's like being a kid in a toy store. My top contendors are the 9-5 Aero, the BMW 525IT and the Volvo V70 (T5 or XC).
    I could probably add at least another 3 to this list but I need to cut myself off or I wont be able to make a decision...
    The Saab salesman that I have dealt with in the past is already calling me to tell me what a great deal he will give me and I'm tempted to go with the Saab.. I have had a few battery related problems over the last 3 years but nothing serious. Other than that,the car has been solid and fun to drive.. Does anyone have any feed back on the Aero ? I have read all the pro reviews but I'm looking for some real life feedback..
  • rworrellrworrell Posts: 151
    I have a 2000 9-5 Aero wagon, 5-speed, and my lease expires in 5 months so I'm right with you on timing. The only problem I've had with my 9-5 has been the battery failing (sounds like yours). Funny--this is the third Saab I've owned and two of them had to have batteries replaced (both under warranty).

    I really like the car. The BMW is nice but seems underpowered to me (although I have to say I'm pretty sick of the torque steer with a FWD performance car). I haven't driven the Volvos.

    As far as real life feedback goes, I've said numerous times that the Aero wagon would be the perfect car except for two things:

    1) Torque steer

    2) Suspension is too soft with too much body roll for my tastes (and just think--it's the Saab sport suspension--I can't imagine what the regular suspension feels like).

    Hope this helps!
  • dskidski Posts: 414
    I don't have the Aero version but I'm surprised to hear your comment about a soft suspension.

    I will say this: We owned the First year 9-5 and just traded for the '02 this year. The newest version (2002) is completely different in ride and handling. I noticed the upgrade and improvement in handling immmediately. Body roll should not be an issue with the new models. It's not with our new wagon anyway.

    Drew
    ps. Our first 9-5 needed a battery replacement early too. Anyone know what the issue is here?
  • I'm on battery #3 with my 2000 9-5 and the car is not even 3 years old. The dealership keeps replacing them under warranty but that doesn't help when I'm stuck in a parking lot somewhere. Anyhow,as mentioned in my earlier post,this is the only problem I've had in the last 2.5 years. I think the prudent thing to do is to have them check the battery everytime you take it in for service.
    I think it's a Sweedish thing.. My Brother-in-law owns a 99 Volvo s70 and he also has had to replace several batteries.
    I'm not sure if battery technology is getting worse or if the newer cars just use more power but my 89 Mazda 626 was 6 years old before I had to replace the original battery.
  • dskidski Posts: 414
    Well a batter every year is kinda hard to take. Our first 9-5 only had one replacement after 2 years. It did leave me stranded. I replaced the car after more than 3 years without another problem.

    Drew
  • beer47beer47 Posts: 185
    Has anybody gone this route? Can you combine dealer cash with it? Special financing? On a Chevy the supplier discount can be pretty deep and worthwhile. How about GM card points? Can they be put toward Saab purchase?
  • I originally purchased a used 9-5 Sedan as I fell in love with the seat and the way it handled. It had 32,000 miles on it and ran fine. About 5,000 miles later it developed a hesitaion or skip over 50mph. It got steadily worse and I threatened the dealer with a lemon law claim as I'd had it in 4 times for repair. His solution was to give me a great deal on a 2001 9-5 Wagon that they had used as a loaner. Around 25,000 miles the same problem started along with large amounts of blue smoke on the initial morning start-up. They replace the vacuum pump and hose for the smoke and to date cannot figure out where the hesitation is coming from. It goes in Monday for the 3rd and final service at which point I will file a lemon law claim. Any ideas what causes this skipping? I'd really like to keep the car, but the reliability issues worry me as I am a high mileage driver.
  • Hi,
    Thanks for your many ideas. I love the look of the wagons. They just look so sleek compared to all the others, but I talked to my banker and a new one, even with discounts is out of the question. So I'm looking at used passat 4 motions, or a new Legacy. I even looked up leasebusters, which have an awful lot of people trying to get out of Saab leases, but they are all in the 700-800/month range. It seems with the way they depreciate like a rock, you'd be upside down quickly. I don't know if a 2000 wagon would be a good place to pour money. I haven't driven one yet, because all the books I'm reading about buying a car say, "don't fall in love until you get it home" It looks like I'm leaning towards the Subie because of reliability. My heart wants the Passat or Saab, but the practical side says Subie. I expect to keep the car for awhile (that's why I'm not excited about leasing.) My last car, a 77 320i just went to it's grave 3 weeks ago. It held out well for 25 years! I don't expect that, but I need something reliable, stylish and fun to drive for a good 5-7 years. there, that's my dilema. I'm trying to narrow the choices.
    any ideas?
    thanks in advance,
    cdndriver
  • Hi again,
    I can't find anywhere in Canada where I can get the invoice prices on cars without having to pay at least $20.00 for them. Edmunds, here, doesn't give anything for Cdns., it won't take our postal codes. If I go for a new car, I'd like to know. Anyone know where I can get the information? Websites?
    Thanks,
    cdndriver
  • I don't know how pricing for new Saabs is in Canada (my home country) or the US right now, but in Belgium I was just given the full diplomatic discount on the 9,5 Vector Estate I ordered for my wife. As an expat I am eligible for a discount, but not the more than 25% off list I got. That not only took care of the VAT(21% here) but covered the expensive road tax which is based on engine output. Pricing in Belgium (in Euro) seems to be in line with the US, although the model line up is a little different. I already drive a 2002 9,3 Aero Cabriolet (Viggen body), so I'm happy to have another Saab in the garage.
  • dskidski Posts: 414
    Not sure why your having these problems. I have heard similar stories from people in high altitudes who are not using Premium Gas. Apparantly it's a Turbo related situation but honestly.. I don't know. Our first 9-5 never experienced the problem.

    Good Luck
    Drew
  • rwbxrwbx Posts: 3
    Today in New York, I had my first real expereince driving my 2000 Saab wagon in snow, perhaps 6 inches with slippery conditions. It was a great and possibly dangerous disappointment. I have had an Audi so I have something to compare it to. The front end shimmied back and forthon accleration, I had trouble getting traction on slight inclines and I nearly lost control on a right hand turn as the front drifted left. Any comments or light on this problem would be appreciated.
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