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Saab 9-5 Wagon

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  • dskidski Posts: 414
    We've had Saabs since '94 (two 9-5 and a 900) and all have been Great snow cars. I've also had an Audi Quattro. Of course that was a better car for snow.

    Do you have an Aero version? If so, it's your tires. The performance tires are not to be used for driving in the snow. You WILL need to get snow tires if you intend to drive in snow. If you have a Non Aero .. I'd still guess it's a tire issue. Have them checked. Our 9-5 did great in the 6-7 inch snow we got yesterday.

    Good Luck
    Drew
  • First: Yes the GM employee discount applies. I recently got a quote on a 2003 Linear wagon Sticker: 39,700 My Price: 31,795
    That included the GMS price, along with the full 4,000 dealer cash that they must give along with it.

    I didn't get a price on an Aero, but it does drive nice! A bit of torque/steer at take off but it's to be expected. The interior is well laid out and I think it's as sharp as a BMW, if a bit understated. I know the dealer has some cash on the Aero, but I don't think it's as much as the 4K on the Linear.

    Also drove, and just purchased, a Volvo XC70. The 2003 model has mildly increased HP, but loads more torque. Also the addition of the Haldex AWD is an improvement on an already good system. I purchased this through the Volvo overseas program. Sticker: about 38,500 My Price 31,945
    This included AWD, Premium and Touring Pkgs, and I 'm not even going to Sweden to get it! I thought this was the best value with the AWD, although it's not quite the sporty wagon when compared to the Aero or BMW.
  • beer47beer47 Posts: 185
    thanks for the info...........
  • rwbxrwbx Posts: 3
    I appreciate the comments on my posting "Snow". I do have an Aero and your ideas make sense, especially after reading this month's Consumer Reports on tires. At 30,000 I think mine might be a little worn. I drive upstate frequently and I am always concerned about being caught in a snowstorm on the trip. My Audi wagon always gave me an edge of confidence, but the price was steep to buy again. Saab is a great driving car, a fun car, but I think that given the choice again, I'd return to the quattro, more tank-like but safer I think. Thanks again
  • dskidski Posts: 414
    Well, you don't need to trade for a Quattro to be happy. True it's the best for snow but just know that the Aero tires are not intended for snow. Unsafe actually. Put the appropriate tires on in the winter. It will be cheaper than trading, save wear on your more expensive tires and it will handle the snow Great.

    Drew
  • jonw2jonw2 Posts: 49
    I just read Warren Brown's glowing review of the 2003 Volvo XC90 2.5T in Sunday's Washington Post. Brown calls it a crossover SUV. I'm sure this subject has been discussed here from time to time, but I was wondering if any of the regulars here know of any plans for a Saab AWD.
    As owner of an older Saab 900S and a later Subaru Legacy wagon, it has long occurred to me that an AWD is way overdue for Saab. In my opinion, Saab lost market share to Subaru years ago when Subaru seemingly became the vehicle of choice for many outdoors enthusiasts.
    Having owned two, I'm still a big fan of Saab, although it seems to me that they are slipping somewhat behind the competition. By the way, Warren Brown said that, in normal driving conditions, 95 percent of the drive power on the Volvo XC90 goes to the front wheels, thereby saving fuel. He says "65 percent of the drive power is shifted to the rear wheels during slippery conditions." A unique roll over protection system was developed for the Volvo XC90, which gives it great stability.
    This is not intended to knock Saab, as I would choose Saab over Volvo any day, especially since it is now a subsidiary of Ford. However, it would be reassuring to see Saab reaffirm its status as a serious contender in the market.
    Jon,'87 Saab 185K trouble-free miles
  • dskidski Posts: 414
    Yes, Saab plans to have an AWD version of the redesigned 9-3 model which is just hitting showrooms now.

    I've seen the new 9-3. It looks great.

    There are also plans to have a new Cross Over type vehicle on this platform. Prototypes have already been built and shown at Auto shows in the past year.

    Drew
  • jonw2jonw2 Posts: 49
    Drew,

    Thanks for your response. It's encouraging to know that Saab has an AWD 9-3 coming out soon. I hope Saab will offer an AWD in the 9-5 as well. Our Legacy wagon has been an outstanding performer, but I'm thinking that a Saab 9-5 wagon would provide more in comfort and safety.
    Regards,
    Jon
  • dskidski Posts: 414
    Well, I don't know how soon Saab will have an AWD version 9-3 or cross-over. It's the plan but I haven't heard what the time schedule is.

    I don't believe the current 9-5 has the room in it's archecture for an AWD system. My understanding is that AWD will have to wait for the next generation 9-5.

    Drew
  • thinking about getting one of these...price is a question. i undertand that there is a lot of dealer cash out there right now...what should i expect to pay for an '03 aero wagon?
  • revkarevka Posts: 1,750
    While you're waiting here for feedback, you may also want to check with Edmunds' TMV Pricing Tools? This will give you the average cost others are paying in your region.

    Also, please note: Edmunds' new vehicle TMV prices do not take into account current Manufacturer-to-consumer incentives or rebates. If there are any customer cash incentives in your area, you'll want to make the necessary adjustments.

    Good luck, and please keep us posted on your purchase.

    Revka
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    Hatchbacks & Wagons Boards
  • manamalmanamal Posts: 434
    subject says it all
  • revkarevka Posts: 1,750
    Hi Folks- We have a new discussion on the Wagon's Message board. If any of you have insights to share on Saab 9-5 and/or VW Passat wagons, please join us in this new discussion: Saab 9-5 wagon vs Passat Wagon. Help one of our Town Hall participants (booguion) make up his mind. Thanks!

     

    Revka

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  • I know this sounds dumb but can anybody comment on the new Saab colors. My dealer doesn't have all the colors and I just can't buy another silver anything! Has anyone seen the "Hazelnut"? Do the dark colors drive people crazy due to dirt /scratches, etc because they sure are pretty! My son's suggestion that for $800.00 bucks you can "have it painted any color" did not really help much with question. Any color experts out there? Thanks
  • I was looking at a new 9-5 Aero wagon and the dealer here in So. Cal is taking $1k off sticker plus Saab is kicking in either $3k or 0 percent financing. I was wondering after looking at the pricing if that leaves the dealer with almost 2k profit (ie should I be expecting more of a discount on a $43k loaded Aero?) Very impressed with the handling and good fuel economy of this car.
  • manamalmanamal Posts: 434
    You should be able to get the Aero for about 35-37K.
  • I keep reading messages about the great Saab deals people are getting and would appreciate some pricing info from the board "wizards". I am ready to buy so I need all the ammunition I can carry to the deal. I have checked the TMV on Edmunds and I know that there is a $4,000 'rebate' being given still. But what is a good realistic price for a new 2003 Saab Arc 9-5 wagon ( no Touring Pkg option) before the rebate? Edmund's says : $38,200. Or any suggestions on sites (besides Edmunds) to see the 'true value' and what the sales/Manuf. "add on" to the price? I am not very car savey and I don't mind the car people making some money but I don't want to be a complete sucker. I and my kids' college funds thank you for any morsals of wisdom.
  • manamalmanamal Posts: 434
    38,200 is before the incentive.
    I figure 34K - 35K may be a good price.

    BTW, 1 year ago I bough an '01 9-5 SE Wgn for
    30,500.
  • tomekktomekk Posts: 310
    Try http://www.carsdirect.com - they will show you a decent price with the rebate factored in.
  • grumbgrumb Posts: 21
    I got an '03 ARC Wagon in the new Merlot, and it is beautiful. Getting plenty of compliments that although not a traditional SAAB Color, like silver, , it works!--Looked at hazelnut, and it looks like too mousey brown IMHO.
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