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Saab 9-5 Wagon

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  • You should be able to get invoice price on a Saab Wagon. We shooped around in So. Cal and even Vegas. We fell for the Aero Wagon and got a good price. They dropped $4500 for a loaded 2003. Deals can be had. Saab of Orange County or Findlay in Henderson Nevada
  • khaleokhaleo Posts: 9
    Can someone clarify.... please .... 9-5 station wagon Aero sport 4 cylinder turbo is faster than the 6 cylinder arc ??

    my next comment is one commented earlier that its better to lease with an option to buy .... better than buying used any more comments..

    thank you..
  • manamalmanamal Posts: 434
    The 2.3 L High Output Turbo produces 250 HP & 257 ft-lbs of tourque.

    The V6 produces 200HP and 227 ft-lbs.

    The reason is that the 2.3T engine's turbo produces a lot more boost than the 3.0 V6's turbo.

    I have never driven the 2.3T, but owned a 3.0Lt.
    My understanding is the V6 has better performance from a stop, but once the engine is running the 2.3T has much more kick.

    The bottom line is SAAB knows turbos. They can make a small engine produce a lot of power.
  • khaleokhaleo Posts: 9
    hmmm... ok .... ty for the input.... that is very interesting... so really it does not matter wether you are driving a 6 vs the 4 then... except when accelerating from 0 - 60... it seems to me then get the 4 turbo for even better gas milage.... :]

    I am still in the market for a buying a wagon... but now its getting kind of critical....Anyone regarding lease buy option vs buying a used 2001 or 2002

    someone commented that its better to lease with a buy option since at the end of the lease term the car residual value is almost like $ 15000 to $18000 and you cannot buy a fairly used one ( 2001 or 2002 ) for that much.... any input... ty.

    keep in mind that Saab does depreciate very quickly on the first year almost like $ 8000 based on edmunds )
  • khaleokhaleo Posts: 9
    hey thx for the input...
  • dmaizedmaize Posts: 7
    We are looking to replace my wife's Dodge Grand Caravan with a used wagon (very embarassing and disappointing purchase, don't ask). 9-5 is our first choice, with BMW 5-series and Audi A6 also-rans. I am looking for good sources for used Saabs that have websites. Also, 99s seem to be most plentiful but I would rather have a 00 or 01. Any advice on model year preference, esp related to reliability?
  • dmaizedmaize Posts: 7
    I should add that I live near Oakland. I have been to ebaymotors as well as carfarm.biz in Daly City...
  • I just bought a new 02'9-5 Aero Sedan for $10,000 off sticker (MSRP - 41,370, paid 31,370 plus TTL). This same dealer had two new 02'wagons at the same discount. Not sure if they are still there, but here's the info -Performance Saab in Houston, TX - George was my salesman.
    Why buy used when you can get new at this price?
    Good luck
  • revkarevka Posts: 1,750
    To dmaize- You may also want to check out the Consumer Ratings for the 2000 & 2001 Saab 9-5's in our our Used Vehicle Pricing guide. Good luck, and please keep us posted on your decision.

    To bewildered2- Congratulations on your new 02'9-5 Aero Sedan! Thanks for the information on the 02'wagons! See you around Town Hall. ;-)

    Revka
    Host
    Hatchbacks & Wagons

    Revka
  • wilkichwilkich Posts: 52
    With due respect to those who bought new, buying used looks like a great deal. The 9-5s loose their value pretty quickly. Low mileage 01 and 02 wagons and sedans routinely go for less than $20k on ebay motors. '99s seem to go for even less. (Which leads me to echo a question above about whether anyone has had major problems with '99s. I suspect the lower resale relates to consumer reports' lower ranking of '99s) I was looking at the new 9-3s and now think that getting the larger 9-5 for less money is a better use of cash. Frankly, I would not consider buying a new 9-5.

    Of course, this assumes that you decide to pay cash and don't finance a used car at 7% or so. I recently went through the same thoughts when we bought our Montero last year. While we could have saved almost $8k by buying used, the 0% financing made it "cheaper" to buy new.
  • The reason that I would not buy used really has little to do with loss of value - I don't know how that car has been cared for nor do I know how it has been driven. In Houston, TX, most cars are driven very hard and I would not consider buying used here. I guess it all depends upon your perspective. Plus I bought a "demo" once and swore that I never would buy another vehicle with mileage again. (OK -so it was a Dodge Caravan!)
    I realize that some cars lose value more quickly than others - I've owned several Nissan's (great cars though). However,I remain pleased with my new 9-5 that I will pass on to my daughter in four years when she graduates from HS - and I will have put all of the mileage on the vehicle at the time it's passed on.
  • bmmillerbmmiller Posts: 9
    OK just to help people out with another price for reference, I paid $31000 for a loaded 2001 SE wagon. This was in August 2002 and it had 5k miles on it but sold as new because it had never been titled. I think it was a company car. I thought it was a great deal at the time but after reading other posts it seems more like a fair deal at best.
    We have had a few minor problems with this car. 1) On cold mornings it is sluggish when first starting up and sometimes even stalls. Is this normal? Is this a major concern? 2) Every now and then we get that sulfur smell that other people have mentioned . Is this a gasoline brand problem or could it be something bigger than that?
    I haven't mentioned anything to Saab service about these problems yet but I will at the next scheduled service.
  • dskidski Posts: 414
    The sulfur smell your occassionally getting is nothing to be alarmed about IMO. Virtually every manufacturer has the problem on occassion. It's not clear exactly what the cause is but it can often be attributed to what Gas your using and what time of the year.

    You may find it more prevelant during winter months if your in a colder climate due to the Formulations used in the winter. Keep a mental note of the Gas Stations your using before the smell presents itself. Switching Fuel Brands seems to help for some people I've read.

    Good Luck
    Drew
  • nelsoncmnelsoncm Posts: 103
    So that's what that funky smell is when I crank on the air sometimes????? It is wierd. Never thought to mention to Saab. I always use medium grade fuel. As for the cold starts, I had that problem too this past winter (and I'm in So Cal!). And the battery light would stay on longer than normal on startup. I was assured those things were normal for this car by the dealer.
  • tailjatailja Posts: 1
    2000 was better rated than the 99 correct? The 99 is more in my range. Are they a good buy or not? What would you recommend?
  • dskidski Posts: 414
    We had the first year 9-5 and loved it. They have improved a little every year in my opinion and we now have a 2002.

    Is there really much difference in price between the '99 and '00? I'd tend to go with the newest and lowest mileage version I could find if I were buying used. It always good to try and get as much history on each as well. It could be that the older one turns out to be the least abused .. you just never know.

    Good Luck
    Drew
  • petersjfpetersjf Posts: 8
    First impressions of 2003 Linear Wagon:
    So far, I love it! Better handler than the Passat or Volvo and more features for the money. Slightly bigger inside than the Passat and slightly smaller than the Volvo. I'm 6'5" and can get comfortable. Haven't come up with any major dislikes that I didn't know about prior to purchasing.

    Very smooth around town once you learn how to drive the turbo 4 - V6 is perhaps easier to get smooth acceleration from stop, but neither I nor my picky passengers have any complaints about the 4. Getting 22MPH for in-town non-sport mode driving - fairly good for break-in period.

    Really enjoying the Touring features (xenons, parking assist, rain sensitve wipers) more than I thought.

    Price paid: 32.3k + TTL for Linear + Premium + Touring + Metallic Paint including March factory to dealer incentive ($4000) and $1000 GM Loyalty rebate (expired)

    Hope that helps people looking at this great, value packed luxury wagon.
  • kklvkklv Posts: 1
    I too own a 2001 SE Wagon. Just bought it, while parking in the garage, I smelled the sulfur also. Went to the dealer, they checked it out, said the cataylytic converter needed to be replaced. Only has 22k miles on the car.
    Hmmm...I'm not getting that warm fuzzy Saab feeling people are writing about. I want to feel good about this purchase,
    but needing to replace a large ticket item has me rather unnerved.
    It's under warranty, but I did not buy this car to become better acquainted with my dealer.
  • revkarevka Posts: 1,750
    To petersjf- Congratulations on your new 2003 Linear Wagon, and thanks for sharing your first impressions. We look forward to hearing more.... Thanks for your participation!

    To kklv- Welcome to this discussion, and sorry to hear about your Se wagon problem. Hopefully things will go smoothly from here on out. Good luck, and please keep us posted on your ownership experience.

    Revka
    Host/Hatchbacks & Wagons
  • dskidski Posts: 414
    Relax. The sulfur issue is VERY common with ALL makes. I read a ton about cars and I hear it all the time.

    The warm fuzzy should come to you knowing that your Dealer offered to replace without an arguement. I've dealt with lots of manufactures and Makes and many of them will argue that everything is just fine until you get very aggressive and argue and complain for a long time. It could be argued the Cataylytic converter when bad because of a bad fuel issue or sever driving etc. Applaud your dealer for NOT being contentious with you and taking care of it. Keep the faith. On our third Saab now because they take much better care of us than other dealers have.

    Good Luck
    Drew
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