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Subaru Impreza Outback Sport & TS

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  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    On pre 95.5 4EATs and all SVX 4EATs, you get 90/10 torque split.

    On post 95.5 4EATs you get 80/20 intitial torque split.

    On all 5MTs you get 50/50 via a viscous center diffy.

    On VTD Equipped cars (VDC, WRX, Legacy GT) you get a 45/55 torque split on the 4EATs

    4EATs can split torque from 80/20 up to 50/50 on non-VTD equipped vehicles. On VTD ones the split is from 40/60 to 60/40 max torque split.

    On 5MTs the range is 60/40 to 40/60.

    4EAT models after 95.5 will proactively move power around using wheel speed sensors, and will also adapt to changing shifting points. Starting

    4EAT models pre 95.5 will move power proactively based on output shaft speed sensors and have a "power light" indicating the shift points have been moved based on how hard you hit the gas. These models also have a "manual mode" which allow you to start in 2nd or 3rd gears and stay in those gears. When redline is attained in these vehicles, the transmission will upshift to the next highest gear and downshift when speeds allow it to fall to the lower gear.

    Starting in the 2000MY the 4EATs went to the "active" awd system which added weight sensors to shift power around from front to rear.

    VDC invloved using the VTD system coupled with wheel speed sensors (ABS sensors) to apply brakes to wheels spinning faster, than others along with yaw control and engine throttle cuts.

    In the '03 and '04 Legacy GT the 4EAT has VTD and Sportshift which is a tiptronic-like system.

    In the '88, '89, '91 XT6s there was a locking center diffy that would lock the torque split to 50/50.

    In the '04 STi, the Center diffy is electronically controlled similar to the 4EATs VTD system, and can vary the torque from 40/60 to 60/40 with a 50/50 lock as well.

    -mike
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    VTD rocks, it's the best AWD system Subaru makes, period. It's proactive and has a rear bias, and can send 100% of power to either axle. Very, very few AWD systems can do that. Not even Audi Quattro (67% limit to each axle).

    -juice
  • subearusubearu Posts: 3,613
    that the 4EAT (at least '00+) can be started in '2' and stay in '2'.

    -Brian
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Sorry, VTD is limited to 40/60 to 60/40 can't do 100/0 and 0/100

    -mike
  • lotboylotboy Posts: 49
    813283 are the last 6 of your VIN.
    Your car is sitting there with a sold sign in it.
    I was in late this evening picking out a TS to test drive tomorrow.
    I like the sunroof idea.Nice car dude!

    DD

    PS-I touched your car,,,hehehe
  • cbmortoncbmorton Posts: 252
    That's funny--I was over there yesterday looking at it too. The sunroof looks good. I compared it to the silver WRX with sunroof they have sitting there against the building and the aftermarket roof is a lot bigger, tinted, and has a nicer finish inside. It wasn't cheap, so you've really got to be a sunroof freak to get it done, but it was worth it. Picking it up tomorrow. Let us know how your test drive goes.
  • lotboylotboy Posts: 49
    I enjoyed my test drive,would have been better with less traffic though and some rain.
    That's ok,Impreza TS is a very nice car.I took out a green 5spd..John is a very good guy to talk to.I will see him again in 6 months.
    My buddy in Michigan and I are planning on test driving the STi on thursday in Michigan,we'll see?

    DD

    Good luck with the OBS...
  • twrxtwrx Posts: 647
    I hate to say it but you don't want a WRX with the sunroof if you are 6' tall. I have lots of headroom in my 2003 WRX sedan but I recently test drove a WRX premium package model with the SR. I don't fit well under it. You can see how much they lowered the headliner to do it. It is an internal retract and I suspect it goes under that larger roll cage between front and back seat areas.
    TWRX
  • lotboylotboy Posts: 49
    How's the new car dude?

    DD
  • lotboylotboy Posts: 49
    Just wondering if anyone knows the destination charge for an Impreza to Canada?
    Also what do you think a fair price is for an Impreza (2004)off of the MSRP?
    I think maybe around $1200.00 off CAN
    Cheers guys!!!

    DD

    PS-Are Subaru Impreza's really made in "Gunma" Japan,I was told otherwise???
  • damish003damish003 Posts: 303
    Yep, the Impreza is made in Japan. No where else, to the best of my knowledge. I THINK it's the only part of Subarus' line that's made there exclusively, but I could be wrong.

    -Dan-
  • ozman62ozman62 Posts: 229
    Lotboy, we recently purchased an Impreza TS 2.5 wagon, and we offered $1000 under MSRP. The dealer accepted this without even blinking, which leads me to believe we could have done a little better with some arm twisting. According to our calcs, this was about 1/2 of the dealers mark-up over invoice. Obviously, that doesn't include the mysterious 'holdback' portion. We purchased our car near the end of the month, and I think that this can work to the consumers advantage, too.
    HTH, Owen
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    All Imprezas and Foresters are made in the plant in Gunma, Japan. The Legacy, Outback, and Baja made for US consumption are made in Indiana.

    -juice
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I bet there are parts in the impreza from the US. I know that I got US made parts in my "Japan" built Trooper.

    -mike
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Prolly some, sure. I guess there is a % on the Monroney indicating just how much.

    -juice
  • cbmortoncbmorton Posts: 252
    Been in Montreal since right after I got it so haven't had a chance to post. Really happy with the car so far. It drives and handles great. Seems really well screwed together--probably the tightest new car I've had.

    Re the destination charge, the official number I found in Subaru Canada's price list was $1195, but I was only charged $995 here. About the TS pricing, John's first offer to me on the TS when I started out by looking at it was $814 off MSRP right off the bat without even negotiating, so I say go for $1200 or more and see what you can get. Don't forget to look at the accessory list and figure the ones you want into the deal.
  • lmp180psulmp180psu Posts: 393
    My mom recently purchased the 6/60K warranty for her 04 Outback Sport, and has just received the warranty registration in the mail.

    Does the extended warranty start after the 3/36k new car warranty ends, meaning a possible total warranty coverage of 9/96K, or does the 6/60K start at the mileage you have on the car when purchased which means that she essentially paid for 3/24K extra coverage on top of the 3/36K?

    Also, unrelated to the warranty: Is it normal for the throttle to "buck" back a bit at times if you let of the pedal slightly? Otherwise at 1500 miles, the car is very tight and sufficiently powerful. The cargo area is great for my 14 year old dog!
  • damish003damish003 Posts: 303
    Juice, are you sure that the Forester is only made in Japan? I thought that one was made both in Japan and the US.

    Louis, I know what you mean about the "buck" that happens sometimes when you left off the gas. When I first got my 04 OBS I noticed the same thing. Now that the car is broken in and has adjusted to how I like to drive, it doesn't seem to happen anymore. Maybe it's part of the transmissions "learning curve" that Subaru has.

    -Dan-
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    It's the total milage. 6/60 will cover up to 6/60 from new.

    -mike
  • lotboylotboy Posts: 49
    Thanks for your input guys!Thanks cbmorton...

    DD
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