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BMW 3-Series Sport Wagons



  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Now that the E90 wagons are being sold here in North America as the 328i and 328xi, I'm thinking that the following title is a bit too long:

    BMW 3-Series Wagons (323 iT, 325i, 325xi, 328i & 328xi)

    How's about this instead:

    BMW 3-Series Wagons E36 and later

    Or simply this:

    BMW 3-Series Wagons


    Best Regards,
  • 3 Series Sport Wagons?
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Hi shipo, I'm sorry I don't think I saw this post. :confuse:

    I like badnews' suggestion, 3-Series Sport Wagons - what do you think?
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Since that is now BMWs official designation, who am I to argue? :shades:

    Best Regards,
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  • patpat Posts: 10,421
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  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 3,238
    that all we have to discuss here seems to be the name of the thread.

    Does anyone know how the cargo-carrying capabilities of a 3-series sedan with fold-down seats compares to the sport wagon? Sometime in the next several months, I intend to find out, but thought I'd ask.

    I think we've established that the printed material is in error regarding F/R weight distribution, but I'm not sure that's been verified.

    Happy new year!
  • darnacdarnac Posts: 31
    How about mentioning them putting in the new twin turbo six in the wagon?
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 3,238
    Because I don't care about the power and don't want to pay the cost (upfront & mpg).

    What I do care about are the handling & other BMW features. As they know in Europe, BMW isn't all about power & 0-60 acceleration rates.

    I realize that's a hard sell over here.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Hey Gang,

    Mrs. Shipo is leaning toward fetching a new 328xi Sport Wagon this summer via the European Delivery program. We're thinking an Arctic Metallic 328xi with a 6-Speed manual, Gray Leather, Walnut trim, Xenons, PP, SP, Heated Seats (hate headlight washers), Logic 7 audio, iPod, HD radio, and Park Distance Control (her current rear bumper is looking a bit ragged).

    I'll keep y'all posted on how the ordering process moves along and how we like the car, both in Europe (where we're going to drive from Munich to Paris to Madrid and back to Munich), and here in New England.

    Best Regards,
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,304
    Sounds nice!

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,355
    I am interested in your review of the x-drive. I am sure you knew I'd ask sometime or another. I really appreciate your feedback and learned a lot from you already.

    This past year was a weird season for snow/ice/rain and the traction advantage was very apparent to me. The trade offs were worth it from my point of view.

  • jmessjmess Posts: 677
    I was looking hard at a 328i Wagon automatic but ended up buying a Infiniti EX-35 this weekend. The 328i has a nicer looking shape, handled a bit better, gets a little better MPG on the highway, and has 10 CuFt more cargo space with the rear seats fold down. The downer was the significantly higher price, less features for the price, a limited slip differential isn't included in the higher price, bland interior, unintuitive i-drive, noticeably slower passing power (EX has 67 more HP), and run flats (craps). The local BMW dealer was really smug when I started talking about cost + pricing. Give them few months and the new economy will wake them up.
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 3,238
    ". . .unintuitive i-drive. . ."

    If I'm not mistaken, i-drive is an option on the 328's, one I'd take a pass on, BTW.

    ". . .run flats (craps)."

    Absolutely agree

    "Give them few months and the new economy will wake them up."

    On what planet? Certainly not this one. Hide and watch. BMW certainly doesn't have a corner on the market for arrogant dealers, but they do participate. The sheep line up day after day, so why not?
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Posts: 6,257
    Disclaimer: I owned a 2006, 330i with ZSP, 6MT and a 2003 330i ZHP 6MT

    Drove a 2007 328i last night. Sadly the car had the steptronic transmission and the premium package. Sitting in the front seat everything to fall to hand as it had in my 330i. With one glaring problem - no shifter. I put the car in drive and took off.

    Wow, the car's butt drags off the line. It was like a giant sat in trunk and he was pressing down with all that gravity would give him. This sensation never left me during the entire drive. The engine felt under-powered for the car's heft. Sure it was silky smooth as BMW's inline sixes tend to be, but there was zero aggressive torque, just mild linear power.

    I had 18s on my 330i; this car had 16s. The 16s absorb road irregularities much better than the 18s (prior to switching to normal tires). Bumps hit and disappeared. No sudden suspension jolts with the 16s.

    Of course, the softer suspension also contributed to a mushy, less urgent ride. Wow, spooky how much the car understeers too. Corners and undulating hills passed with the front end plowing ahead. No fear though, as the car always felt squished to the ground, never in danger of rotating that seemingly heavy backend.

    Rear visibility seemed rather dismal too compared to the sedan or even my wife's A3. It was night and the car was saddled with that lousy auto-dimming mirror so what's already a small portal out of the car, seemed even more muted. Why cars offer autodimming mirrors I'll never know. Regardless, from the front the view felt like my 06 330i; front seats on though I had a fun-house feeling about the car.

    Nothing creaked or sounded untoward at any point but overall the car lacked any nimble-ness or urgency. I couldn't push it. The faster I went, the more I felt the engine was underpowered and the suspension unwilling to let me play hard. With time could it get better? Would I find the ability to rotate the car some for corners? It didn't happen during my 15 minute jaunt through the hills. Just a staid ride.

    The car just felt blah. I didn't love my 330i but it certainly felt more responsive and alive than this car. What a difference a few more HP, 200 fewer lbs and ZSP can make.

    I always assumed when my wife had a kid I could move to a 3 series wagon and it'd be good enough. That doesn't seem likely now. For less money I'm thinking a few other wagons might be available with more fun. Maybe I'm wrong and I'm destined to just stick with sedans...
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