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Suzuki Kizashi

mandi79mandi79 Posts: 12
How do you guys/gals like the new Suzuki. I think it is going to be great for the consumer, and Suzuki! Very nice looking car, with great features, and awesome interior!
I love my SX4 Sedan, but I wouldn't mind a Kizashi! How do you think it compares to the SX4?

Thanks Mandi
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  • whwongwhwong Posts: 5
    In overall I like it, though I hope it could be more aggressive, but at least it is the sharpest mid-sizer in the market. If price is right I will probably get one.
  • mandi79mandi79 Posts: 12
    I think that if Suzuki wants to appeal to their customers during this time of economic distress then pricing the Kizashi at an afforable price would be the best.

    Mandi
  • Anybody heard of a release date?

    Engine options?

    Pricing?

    :confuse:
  • Industry whisper rumor has it that the Kizashi will be MSRP'ed at 17k to 18k for base models, which are actually fairly well equipped, and loaded models will run near 26k with every option.

    If true, that will probably mean actual pricing of 14.5k to 21k.
  • The link you posted doesn't work.

    Consumer Reports has rgiven the Kizashi a really terrible review. I am a little surprised, but maybe I shouldn't be.
  • Such a better looking car than the TSX! So much potential...

    First they tempt us by saying it will have a class leading +200 hp, only to find it is 185/180 hp. Same thing for the still unapproved V6. At first it was 300 hp in the show car, but now talk of 260hp? Other similar sporty cars have 270-300hp, so Suzuki comes up short again.

    If Suzuki wants to compete, the performance/numbers has to be competitive. We know that the GM sourced V6 is capable of 306hp on regular gas in the CTS, so if Suzuki just takes the XL-7 into the Kizashi, then they don't approve their image at all. This does not bode well for the car company in the US.

    I just don't understand how the parent company can develop the fastest road motorcycle (Hayabusa) and yet can't make a decent car engine. Hello, Honda & Yamaha can do it, and Yamaha don't even make cars! They have a beautiful car with a weak heart (engine). So, do they want their new car to have a heart like the Chevy Malibu (252 hp) or that of the CTS (306hp)?

    This car has the perfect dimensions, similar to the 328/A4/TSX, but they need an practical image car.

    Another point to Suzuki, put the XL-7 v6 into the Grand Vitara. Where the hell did they come up with a modern 3.2L v6 with less power then a defunct Isuzu Rodeo. Look at what happened to Isuzu...
  • From Consumer Reports:

    We briefly drove a high end Kizashi with 18-inch wheels and all the bells and whistles. Bottom line: We were not impressed. The 2.4-liter engine mated to the CVT isn’t the most cultured powertrain out there. The ride is rather stiff, and the steering, in our judgment, has very little European inspiration, if at all. The interior is nothing special, but the cabin has a pleasing appearance and decent seats.

    Very bad news.

    Link: Consumer Reports
  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,416
    That's one take, Mike. Autoblog had a completely different impression:

    http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/16/2010-suzuki-kizashi-first-drive/

    I don't think you can conclude much from the CR blurb...and they were not comparing it to the competition with testing equipment. At least autoblog drove a few others for comparison, even if they didn't do a real test.

    No matter what, the Kizashi has the advantage of being the trimmest mid-size sedan, providing the room without the bulk. It looks like it is priced better than most too.
  • i know that larger, wider wheels/tires create more drag, but the aprox. 3mpg city and 3mpg hwy reduction for the 18inch wheels over the 16inch wheels seems a bit much. Would anyone like to enlighten me on this topic?

    otherwise, seems like a great car and i'd consider buying one....
  • I wondered what a red Suzuki Kizashi would look like. Wonder no more. Looks very cool to me. Trouble is I tried to paste it on here and it took up this whole page.
    So here's a silver-colored one instead. Just to sort of keep your mental image of the new Suzuki Kizashi ruminating a bit. :blush:

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  • in the new Suzuki Kizashi. I was reading one of Suzuki's ads on the Kizashi yesterday at Safeway and Suzuki advertises they will be selling the "Kizashi nicely equipped for $21,200."

    Did I read that right?

    Industry whisper rumor has it that the Kizashi will be MSRP'ed at 17k to 18k for base models, which are actually fairly well equipped, and loaded models will run near 26k with every option.

    If true, that will probably mean actual pricing of 14.5k to 21k.


    Above is your comment mikemartin and it turns out that what you said is going to actually be pretty accurate in the real world. Man, I don't know about you but I just grew about $5,000 more interested in this car than I was before reading that ad.

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  • I must be really interested in the 2010 Suzuki Kizashi because I just clicked on that ad and optioned-one out and priced-one out. For a 2010 Suzuki Kizashi GTS in Vivid Red, FWD, 6-speed manual transmission, bluetooth, sunroof and 425-watt Rockford Fosgate stereo, it comes to $23,334. That's MSRP, with no dickering included. I'd want to dicker a tad for this car.

    425-watt, 10-speaker Rockford-Fosgate premium AM / FM / CD /XM-capable audio system with MP3 playback. My '08 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS has a 650-watt Rockford Fosgate stereo. On this '10 Suzuki Kisashi GTS several of the options are very similar to my '08 Lancer GTS' included options. The one-touch power sunroof is on both cars, the RF stereo, foglights, etc. Wow, I like this Kizashi a lot. I'd get a Vivid Red one or a Metallic Silver one and be really happy with either one of those colors.

    Reviews are good...Edmunds gave it a very good review. The interior gets very good grades. The ride is tight and taut, but I am used to that with my sport-tuned 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS. I am not only used to a sport-tuned suspension but I think that I want that kind of build from now on. It pays off in the twisties and on the freeway, though over bumpy roads it can be kind of irritating. The 2.4L 180hp 4-cylinder apparently is providing these reviewers with ample power for city and highway driving. And I have now read one reviewer with the 6-speed manual tranny praise the shifter on their Kizashi, saying that it shifts easier than their Audi A4's shifter. Wow. I see no reason for a car of this size that the 2.4L 180hp 4 wouldn't be enough power. This car would look great in Vivid Red or the silver that is shown on the Kizashi in my post above. More on this car later.

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  • very revved up about this vehicle. I'm thinkin' Mitsubishi just gained some serious competition for my next spending dollar. I'd say I'll wait for Suzuki ta work out da bugs on this brand new Kizashi, but, people aren't encountering any problems with their Kizashi's. And the name Kizashi is fine. It's fine.

    The car is getting a 9.4 out of 10 rating here in Edmund's Suzuki Kizashi reviews. My fave two reviews were from the guys who bought the Suzuki Kizashi GTS with 6-speed manual tranny's. They're working like champs. I've been wanting to enter the manual tranny world again.

    Anyhoo...I must go to bed and get some more beautiful rest. But first...here ya go!

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    I do like the silver color and the Vivid Red.

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  • in Vivid Red. Decent pic if I must say so myself.

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    Yeah, I am getting hooked on the "Jetta-like" look the new Kizashi portrays from the front there. The more I read about this new Suzuki the more I like. There's just no need to trade in a nearly new car for a brand new car right now, is there? :shades:

    This car has what I'd call an elegant but sporty look to it. It just screams at me "take me for a spin and push me in to the turns as hard as you'd like!"

    Humm...iluvmysephia1...you already have a car like that, remember?

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  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,709
    edited March 2010
    Kizashi. Not too shabby so far for these tests.

    NHTSA Crash Test Driver5 stars
    NHTSA Crash Test Passenger5 stars
    NHTSA Crash Test Side Front5 stars
    NHTSA Crash Test Side Rear5 stars
    NHTSA Rollover4 stars
    IIHS OffsetNot tested

    The wheels on the GTS model I'm interested in are listed as 18.0 X 8.0 in. painted alloys. They're shown on the Kizashi below. Nice! I feel the painted alloys, with their bright and shiny metallic glow, look great against the silvery finish of Suzuki's Kizashi metallic silver. Which brings up the subject of the Kizashi's main exterior color. I am starting to favor metallic silver over the two available red color offerings, too, for my...ummm...I mean somebody's Kizashi for 2010. ;) Suzuki names this color Platinum Silver Metallic. It is now my front-running color for this car.

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  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,416
    It is completely stupid that the Kizashi gets different mpg based on wheel size. What other company rates mpg differently for a 16" v. 17" wheel? Weird.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,709
    edited March 2010
    as far as liking the Kizashi's design. Car companies are good to catch in this situation. They are trying hard, just like the car company I bought from, Mitsubishi. And good Warranties can be had, too.

    gregg vw-have you read the reviews on Edmunds from people who've already bought Kizashi's? Pretty solid ratings so far. Great handling, steering, stereo, etc.

    You've got a SX-4, how is it doing right now? Running like a champ, yes?

    I'm digging the Platinum Metallic Silver with those nice painted alloys. Sweet.

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    $23,244 for a loaded Suzuki Kizashi GTS in 6-speed tranny form, leather-wrapped steering wheel and gearshift, foglights, 425-watt Rockford Fosgate stereo, etc. That's a pretty good deal. It's cars like this that are making me think twice about going electric for my next car.

    Look at those cool headlights and foglights. The foglights are a bigger diameter than my Lancer's foglights.

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  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,416
    I like the Kizashi, but it comes up short in a few areas when compared to the 2011 Sonata. Gas mileage especially has me puzzled. If you get the good wheels, the Kizashi mpg actually goes down. Sonata rates all its wheel sizes the same. What is up with that?

    My SX4 AWD runs great. However, why does a AWD Legacy or Outback get better mileage? Suzuki sales will never take off as long as their models have run-of-the-mill mpg ratings.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,709
    edited March 2010
    good points. I went to a Suzuki dealership in west Phoenix (Avondale) yesterday while my 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS was getting a detailing done and a L-O-F. Ya know, it was a blue Kizashi and a white one, and I didn't really like either of them.

    But to be honest and fair, I need to see a Kizashi in Vivid Red and Platinum Silver Metallic. Then I'll know for sure. I am weird about colors. They define a car for me. And I know there's something to it. My 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS is so good looking that it makes me feel ashamed for looking at younger women. :shades:

    Know what I might mean there? The '08 Lancer GTS looks so good and I really love it in Rally Red. Mitsubishi got it down so well with the Lancer GTS. I'm so glad I got the GTS with it's bodycladding and foglights and Rockford Fosgate stereo a 'pumpin'.

    Don't know about the mpg with Suzuki. However, I remain enchanted with their new Kizashi and I think that I can get 30mpg anyway on the highway with the 2010 Suzuki Kizashi GTS in 6-speed form. Foghat and The Tragically Hip will sound great on the 425-watt Rockford Fosgate stereo, too, I am sure of it.

    I am close to trading the '08 Lancer GTS in on a 2010 Suzuki Kizashi. But not totally sure I will do it. I'll keep y'all posted at any rate. Right now it's all fluid, baby.

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    That Kizashi looks to be the gunmetal grey. Looks pretty hot in that shade as well. Crikey, this baby is only getting hotter to me every time I look at it. I'm gonna have ta buy one. I will wear the Suzuki 'S' proudly. If they bargain well with me, that is.

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  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,416
    They will bargain with you or they won't make a sale. Suzuki sales are way down, and thus far, the Kizashi is not turning that around. They don't have many models to begin with. The Equator is a Nissan truck that doesn't sell that well as a Nissan. The Grand Vitara is greatly in need of a redesign. The SX4 models (I have one) are good cars, but the design is getting old, and even with the mpg improvements this past year, it is still at the back of the pack. The Kizashi is well-styled (though a bit conservative) and well-equipped for the money. But in a comparison of mid-size sedans in the real world, it got the poorest mpg and road noise, though subdued, was greater than in the other cars (Camry, Fusion, Mazda6, Altima, Malibu, Legacy). It is of course more nimble than cars like the Camry, but you give up some space too.

    It is very odd that the smallest car gets the poorest mileage. One claim to fame went away immediately: Kizashi having the highest hp in its class. That was only with the manual transmission anyway (the GM engine has 182 hp), and now both the 2011 Sonata and Optima trump it by going to 200 hp...with better mpg.

    I really don't think Suzuki will be a contender until VW starts lending a hand. Without VW, it would go the way of Isuzu in this country. It really is too bad they have had so little understanding of the American market. They have the Indian market sewn up.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,709
    edited March 2010
    great points on the Kizashi. I appreicate them. Yeah, the salesman for Suzuki came over from the Kia lot next door. Not much action going on at either one, really.

    He told me that Suzuki makes so much money in motorcycles and marine (really, marine? I thought they were the motorcycle kings of Japan?) that they don't really need the automotive sales. He told me they don't care...then recanted and said they care, but don't need the sales.

    I knew what he meant, anyway. I remain interested in the car but my '08 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS is such a good car that it is making it hard to trade it in. I'll let ya know what happens. I could probably get a really good deal on the Kizashi right now because they're probably not selling very well. I know I haven't seen one in either Tucson or Phoenix.

    I'm driving up to Phoenix again today so I'll keep my eyes peeled for one. Going by internet technical data and reviews I've read from new owners the car is being well appreciated by early buyers. One reviewer that bought a 6-speed says that it handles great, steers aptly and his Kizashi shifts better than his Audi 3's shifter/clutch mechanism does. That is saying something. I will need to drive one to really tell, though.

    They are saying that it does not eminate a lot of road noise, too. However, that type of detail can be subjective, because of the type of car people are coming out of.

    There's only two Suzuki dealers in the state of Arizona. One in Phoenix and one in Tucson. I don't think they're going to pull out of the U.S. market. Just yet, anyway.

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  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,709
    edited March 2010
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    a 2010 Suzuki Kizashi GTS in pearl black color and an automatic transmission. Nice interior, switches for the heater/AC were a little confusing. Stereo switchgear was intuitive and worked well. The car steered and handled very well. Quite impressive on all counts, really.

    The car took bumps in stride, it made larger bumps seem like little blips as you went over them. I wanted to drive a manual tranny Kizashi but the dealership I went to in Henderson, NV, didn't have any manual trannied Kizashi's out on the lot. They did have a Vivid Red one in the showroom.

    Negotiations didn't go well, in other words, they lowballed me on my '08 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS trade-in and wouldn't budge. They wouldn't take under MSRP so I walked. They took a few hundred dollars off but it wasn't enough and I just left with my Lancer GTS. I'm happy just keeping my Lancer GTS. It really is a great car and I think it looks hotter than the Kizashi, too.

    I might've bargained keener if I had driven the manual tranny Kizashi. I still like the car and will keep it in mind for later.

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  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,416
    good for you for walking...it is just a car, and you already have a good one. plus, have they seen for example the 2011 Kia Optima that will cost no more, but will offer more hp, room and style? methinks they will be dealing with you soon to your liking...or Kizashi will become another also ran that coulda been a contenda
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,709
    edited March 2010
    yep, and this SE Arizona padre just can't seem to get the 2010 Suzuki Kizashi out of his mind. This test drive was profitable in that I learned how the car drives out in real life. Not just reading the comments here on Edmunds.

    And it drives like a dream! It takes bumps and just melds them into mincemeat! I really think Suzuki has out-done themselves with the Kizashi. BTW-I live about 80 miles from Tucson, and Tucson is home to one of only two Suzuki stores in the state of Arizona. One is in Avondale(a western burb of Phoenix), where we bought our '08 Lancer GTS. The other is Royal Suzuki of Tucson. Perfect. Laid back Tucson salesmen should be much easier to deal with than the Las Vegas card sharks I tried to deal with in Henderson, NV. What a bunch of losers.

    The 6-speed Kizashi over in Henderson was a Vivid Red Kizashi. The one I think will look just awesome is what Suzuki calls Platinum Silver Metallic.

    Oh yeah, baby, the hunt is on. They say men are the hunters. I feel like I'm on a Kizashi hunt here. ;)

    This is what I'm talkin' about, baby.

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    BTW, gregg vw, you still have your SX-4, right? What else do you have in your stable? Refresh my memory.

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  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,709
    edited March 2010
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    You see how the painted alloys look against the silver paint and the foglights on and such? I love that on this car! And how the headlights look with the mirrored chrome inside and such. Looks great.

    The GTS model shown is only $23,244.

    Here's a review I just found that is making my mind up on getting a Kizashi. Check this out. I've been wanting to get a car with a manual transmission for a while and here's my chance to do just that. Check this review out, friends.

    Vehicle

    2010 Suzuki Kizashi GTS 4dr Sedan (2.4L 4cyl 6M)

    Review

    Haven't had this much fun driving a car since 1978! Great fun with 6 spd.manual transmission, great pick-up and performance...watch out...in 6th gear you can go from 75-100 in a split second without trying to! LOVE MY KIZASHI!

    Favorite Features

    Interior! Fosgate sound! Smooth ride! Mileage!

    Suggested Improvements

    None so far
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    Here's another one I like.

    Vehicle

    2010 Suzuki Kizashi SLS 4dr Sedan AWD (2.4L 4cyl CVT)

    Review

    Iwas waiting for that car for more than a month. First i want to get GTS AWD CVT but they dont make it yet so i put order for SLS AWD CVT. I took delivery on 2/18 and the car had 24 miles on it. Now i can't say to much about acceleration because i have 350miles and still i am brake in a car but driving on high way taking few seconds to get to 80mph. So far i can say car is cool and fun to drive. On snow car feel steady. Interior its nice and it has a lots of room. Car has a lot of features for that price. If you will buy different car with those futures you will pay much more.

    Favorite Features

    stereo system, moon roof, AWD, paddle shifters, sunroof, push to stat button, auto wipers and lights.

    Suggested Improvements

    Blind spot warning, 6 cd changer, buck up camera should be standard in all trims and standard navigation in SLS will be nice.

    I am thinking of returning to the Pacific Northwest and in Pullman one does have a lot of snow to deal with. Yes, the home of Wasington State University, Pullman. We'll see, I have had a phone interview that went very well. I am going to check out Suzuki dealers in the Pacific Northwest in the Pullman region. I know there's one in Spokane. I miss my homeland, which is actually the Seattle area. But this hospital I'm applying for a job at is winning patient satisfaction awards and it is winning 'Top 100 hospitals to work at in the U.S.' awards as well. I'm very interested! And it does snow a lot in Pullman.

    They do plow the streets there, but my 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS, though a great car, might have trouble in the snow, due to it's high-performance, low-profile Pirelli P-Zero Nero M&S Pinna tires. Don't get me wrong, they're great tires. But I suspect the tires with the Lancer suspension and racecar type setup might cause me trouble up in Palouse country.

    I'm all excited about the Kizashi and the job in Pullman. Aw, schucks. :shades:

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  • Anyone have thoughts (or compared for themselves) an AWD Kizashi SE or GTS with the Legacy 2.5i or 2.5GT?

    There are features I like better on the Legacy, but it seems like the Kizashi tends to be more fun to drive.
  • I've driven all kinds of cars/trucks in the past including a GMC truck, Saab, VW Jetta TDI, BMW, and MB C-Class AWD. My last car was a 2009 Suzuki SX4 AWD automatic touring crossover. The SX4 was just ok, and didn't ignite any passions. THEN, I test drove the Kizashi when it finally came to Denver. It reminded me so much of my most favorite car, a 2005 MB C-Class AWD. I was instantly in love. For over a month, I thought long and hard about whether I really wanted another Suzuki. I really have never been a fan of the company. But, perceptions can change. I ultimately got a 2010 Suzuki Kizashi SLS AWD Automatic in Platinum Silver. I love it more than the MB I used to own...and that's saying volumes as I considered that MB my first born child. The Kizashi's handling begs you to push it to its limits around curves and up mountains. All this fretting about no V6 and only 180/185hp is laughable. Just go test drive the car. You will see that the car doesn't need it. Yes, I was skeptical too. However, zooming up I-70 into the Colorado Rockies (going at least 80mph on a significant incline while passing up a new black Bentley Continental) alleviated any concerns for me. For those worried about mpg, go get a Prius, Fusion hybrid, or Jetta TDI. Consider Kizashi to be more of an athletic sports sedan (not unlike Audi A4), not an econobox. Oh, and by the way, comparisons of the Kizashi to a Jetta are upsetting, as I have owned a Jetta---it's NO Jetta. Kizashi is larger in real life. Internet photos make the Kizashi look small, but it has much more interior space than Jetta or the MB C-Class. Kizashi may not be for everyone, but it certainly strikes the right chord for me.
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