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Suzuki Kizashi

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  • arkainzeyearkainzeye pittsburgh paPosts: 473
    i have owned (2) suzuki's and had pretty good luck with them (except both had a/c failure) so i talked a friend into a suzuki, i said they were great cars and worth a look! i feel horrible now as he is in the middle of a lemon law wait with suzuki.. 2012 kiz gts trany failure.. but it wasnt the trany failure that caused the lemon law, it was the lack of support for the warranty... what i mean is, when he said there is a bad noise coming from the transmission when i drive it for more than 2 hours non stop they said "thats normal for a cvt". they it got worse and the shop called a regional rep in.. the car sat there for over 10 days until the rep came to the dealership. The rep denied replacement of the transmission as it wasnt broken, even though he heard the noise himself. so my friend drove the car 100 miles then the transmission "broke" but this time when it broke it causes more damage (something with one of the front axles) so now they replaced the transmission (had to it was dead) and transfer case and front axle.. but the time it took for ALL the repairs exceeded 30 days,. and in PA you have 12000 miles or 30 days of your car being in a shop to file a lemon law so he did...

    The bottom line was suzuki didnt want to replace the transmission even though they heard the noise and now , not only did they have to replace that and more, but now they have to pay his lawyer and give him all his money back.. and the really sad thing is.... ever since he got all those parts replaced, his car jumped up 5 mpg more! even better than when it was brand new with less than 1000 miles on it.. and NOW he loves the car, but the lemon law is already in motion.... on a personal note.. i talked to a suzuki dealership and i was told suzuki is really trying to cut down on their costs by not approving everything warranty for a item that is not offically "broken/failed"
  • I don't suppose you know how it sounds,do you? i have the normal one,front wheel drive,so I won't have to worry about the transfer case! but,it's still scary!
  • chuck1chuck1 Posts: 1,405
    This is what you deal with when you have a financial weak struggling division who sells so few units they could care less.
  • chuck1chuck1 Posts: 1,405
    edited November 2012
    Some people on this board have been in denial......this was obviously coming.

    What little resale value they had....just became non-existent.
  • Just wondering what kind of BS their sleazy dealer network will resort to to con consumers about this
  • Is the Grand Vitara a Nissan? I know the pickups are made by Nissan, they could be a bargain.

    The Suzuki main web site doesn't even mention they are in BK and going out of business - talk about sleazy
  • I just got off the phone with my dealership and they didn't have any more info than the rest of us. They did say that with their used business they will have no reason to end their service department. They sell both Suzuki Auto and Motorcycle so one would imagine the motorcycle side will remain and therefore may do a better job of taking care of parts, service, warranty then others (crossing fingers). Resale was never a hallmark but now it's shot, good thing I buy cars and drive them into the ground.

    Part of me wishes I had waited three weeks and I could have gotten the same car for a steal but my sensible side knows I never would have pulled the trigger knowing this. I love the car and if I had reliability concerns I wouldn't have purchased it. This is certainly not the news you want but i'm hopeful it will cause minimal impact.
  • chuck1chuck1 Posts: 1,405
    edited November 2012
    I bought a Subaru Legacy about a month ago. I cross shopped the Kazashi as well. My wife and I test drove the Kazashi and really liked it. I sent out a couple of emails to dealers acquiring about price.

    We also test drove a Legacy. We seriously considered the Kazashi however I told my wife things were not looking good for Suzuki in the U.S. Since we are now retired we will be keeping this car for many years. I sent emails back to the two Suzuki dealers and told them we would be buying the Legacy because I felt Suzuki's long term USA prospects were bleak. They both responding saying my concerns were unfounded. We bought the Legacy and the rest is history.
  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,415
    edited November 2012
    I had seriously considered the 2010 Kizashi, and am so glad I did not get more serious about it. At the time, it had good features for the price, and I like that size of car better than say the larger Legacy.

    But Suzuki dumped it here and did almost nothing to update it or expand its powertrain, even as compacts and subcompacts not to mention mid-sizers were adding cross-traffic indicators, blind spot monitors, adaptive cruise control, more power, better mileage...I could go on.

    I have no idea what Suzuki's inept executives were thinking, but it was probably as off-base as the plans Ford had for Lincoln, from 2001 to 2011. Actually, to be honest, Suzuki's management was leagues worse, geometrically worse than what Lincoln management did or didn't do for awhile.

    And I doubt that effective management could have saved Suzuki, due to its sparse and mostly dismal lineup. There wasn't a single model that was ranked anywhere near the top of its class, and for most classes of vehicles, Suzukis were completely missing in action. The dumb-[non-permissible content removed] management sent in since 2008 (and frequently changed) just made everything so much worse. There's a book here on how not to do things.
  • chuck1chuck1 Posts: 1,405
    Yep, so true.

    This train crash was even worse than the Cerebrus/Chrysler debacle.
  • chuck1chuck1 Posts: 1,405
    Mitsubishi only sells double of what Suzuki sold. And Mitsu has two models scheduled to be dropped and no new replacements scheduled.

    They have sold only 50,000 units, again about double the 24,000 units Suzuki sold. Not enough to be profitable.

    I say gone within 24 months.....
  • chuck1chuck1 Posts: 1,405
    edited November 2012
    Interesting article.

    Having been in an industry that relied heavily in foreign equipment, it is these same cultures who sit in a skyscraper 10,000 miles away that have an attitude of "their way or the highway".

    You know what they say about payback.....it's a b**** sometimes!

    Do you notice how quiet it's been from iluvmysephia1? First he says go ahead and buy a Suzuki, everything will be fine, then in another post tells us that Mitsubishi is apparently running their North America Operations for the fun of it, since they too will never leave the market.

    Yea, right!
  • Read an article where an auto guru said the passing of Suzuki would only boost depreciation a few % I found that hard to believe so I looked at big Suzuki dealer in midwest that is discounting new models $5K and $6K. With base prices starting in the low teens thats about 30% for starters, that looks like a lot more than a few % dip, new cars selling for less than used - not for long!

    Suzuki is continuing in Canada, I guess US models will migrate north
  • chuck1chuck1 Posts: 1,405
    Those so called Gurus never want to get on a manufacturer's bad side. He is hedging his bets in case Suzuki ever comes back around.

    You are right, if they are discounting Suzukis new 5k to 6k, what is a USED ONE WORTH?
  • Suzuki is very competitive in small cars, they are the 3cyl champ of the universe but they wanted to be like everybody else and produced a series of uninspiring cars, with a horrible dealer network. Numerous states are legalizing golf carts and other goofy vehicles for local roads, Suzi should have jumped on that with their myriad of small vehicles.

    They have a good rep with their other products and produce reliable engines and drivetrains but didn't parlay that into market favs. Kizashi is a nice car with a horrible name, the SX4 is co-developed with Chrysler, if Suzukis were rebadged and sold thru the Chrysler network they'd steal sales from Chrysler and Fiat models. Somebody with a decent network should be able to sell renamed Kizashis in decent numbers.

    Once burned, twice shy.
  • I'm not being quiet, I just don't feel like coming back on here and telling you that the Suzuki Kizashi is still the best midsizer out there.

    And as far as Mitsubishi leaving the U.S. market, read my lips...no new taxes...umm...I mean Mitsubishi won't be leaving the U.S. market. This year. Or next year.

    Or the year after that. Or that. Truth be this.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • chuck1chuck1 Posts: 1,405
    Your right about Mitsu not leaving the market. They are making product for export in Normal, IL. They will in all likelihood not close that plant.

    They will probably continue to have a sub-standard dealer network and just let their dealers fall where they may. It would look bad to have a domestic manufacturing plant with no dealer network, as pitiful as it may be.

    Their goal of selling 100K in units is a pipe dream.
  • Suzuki models are outdated and relatively poor on MPG per article on orphan bargains - and good luck on getting warrantee work done

    http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1080335_should-i-buy-a-new-suzuki-now-that-i- ts-leaving-the-u-s
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